2010 Rd 6 V Roosters: Game Day and Post Match

[markqt]

Can anyone enlighten me what it meant by Carney 16 Canberra 6...

[T_R]

but yea I'm the idiot, I'm the nego

Gee some people could run riot with this little snippet

It is a symptom of how desperately sick I am of Bay's rants that I couldn't be bothered.

Really down after that performance. I just can't see any positives at the moment.

[T_R]

Can anyone enlighten me what it meant by Carney 16 Canberra 6...

Carney scored 10 more points individually than the Canberra team managed.

[steve3800]

That was the most pathetic load of rubbish i have EVER seen. We could not have played any worse if they tried. Miller is sh*t, why bring him back in so quickly? Tilse couldnt catch a cold, Tongue isnt a hooker, Campo did f*** all but i guess thats better than dropping it every two minutes like miller did, and every one else looked disinterested. We are by far the wrost team in the NRL, and i cant believe i wasted my time and money to watch that rubbish! Furner is not a coach and we are not too far off rock bottom. Most of that team that turned up tonight would not be picked for any other first grade team.

Slight over reaction

You think? that was one of the most inept performances ive seen in over 20 years of following the club. Rather than improve week to week, we still cant get the basics right, like catching a ball for instance. If its too hard for them perhaps they should pick another sport?

[BJ]

Trying to be positive here, work with me it ain't easy

TLL best game sofar, getting back to his best

tilse shillington Logan were pretty good

mogg, apart from a miss also snuffed out a couple of roosters raids with strong defence and looked to pass quickly and link attackers.

[-TW-]

I must say its a lot easier to read without the whinge threads that we usually have after a loss.. even though the Carney thing appeared again briefly.. but it was always going to happen

I'm still thinking of my POTY points though... its a tough one

[j raid]

yes, well played Todd. But how dose it FEEL?

[Manbush]

Nothing is Carneys fault, let's look for excuses and blame everyone else but the idiot who had 31 chances to make it, he can't be responsible for pissing on someones head, police chase etc, god forbid someone takes personal responsibility for their own actions, Bay like the new world order likes to blame everyone else instead of the person actually **** up

Coming from you manbush, the King of Excuses, that's pretty good

as I said mate you know nothing

I accept there are reasons a team can go bad, injuries, refs etc but will never make excuses for criminal behaviour, big difference

No excuse for tonigt, players didn't perform, not management or Furner to blame, whole team, 17 players and coach

[afgtnk]

Don't know why everyone keeps going on about Carney. Nice 1st try, but apart from that was average and was missing for a lot of the game, just like he was so often for us. Please, for the love of God get over him people

[Greenerelly]

Yeah guys blame Crusher and Bay56 , can you not see what is in front of your eyeballs

[troy_28]

Wow that was really bad for the 1st time this seaon i was confident about this one. Im just going to erase this from my memory and pretend that the game never happened. Hopefully the inconsistency continues for 1 more week and we can smash the rabbits next week. very unlikely though

[Manbush]

Don't know why everyone keeps going on about Carney. Nice 1st try, but apart from that was average and was missing for a lot of the game, just like he was so often for us. Please, for the love of God get over him people

That's what I thought, he really did sweet FA in context of that game

[nachopants]

What? He also had line break assists. One of their tries came purely from an awesome offload from Toddy2Hotty

[Rodman]

So disappointing for so many reasons...

-A hamstrung injury saved McCrone the indignity of the hook IMO. We were rudderless for the whole game, but Mogg gets a few bonus points for a nice chip kick and smashing Carney's ribs.

-I've been saying Thompson should be in the backrow and tonight did nothing to change my mind. The guy simply isn't getting quality service from his inside men on a consistent basis... at least if he is the backrow he can run off Campo instead of waiting for McCrone to get him the ball. Frankly, I think McCrone's inconsistencies are a major cause of Harrison's relatively poor start to the season.

-I've also been saying that Picker will be very lucky to keep his place in the team when we get more troops back. Again, tonight did nothing to change my mind.

-Thurling was excellent again. He's been our best forward this year.

-TLL looks close to returning to his damaging best. Probably the only real positive to come out of the night.

-Girlfriend's first Raiders experience... Wishing it was last week.

[Manbush]

Yeah guys blame Crusher and Bay56 , can you not see what is in front of your eyeballs

Who is blaming either of them for anything, people considering them idiots and pains is completely different to blaming them

[yurithe1]

Listening to the ABC post match, I was surprised to hear that they gave Tilse 1 point in their man of the match ratings.

Then again, compared to Miller's poor handling, Tongue causing the attack to be disjointed with his delivery from dummy half,Shillo's dodgy defence, Harrison being MIA and Picker being very average, maybe he was the pick of the forwards. But the best Raider on the park?

I would have gone for Thurling or Thompson.

[Dr. Alex]

Got my mates over to try and convert them to Raiders/rugby league but it proved to be impossible.

Disgraceful peformance, xxxx crowd... no atmposhere on telly. Roosters have to be one of the worst supported teams in the league. First sub 10k crowd of the year for a team that has won three of five.

One of my mates asked me "Is your team coached?" We were horrible, I don't know how we went from looking clinical in both attack and defence to this in the space of 5 days. Its just so frustrating being a Raiders fan sometimes!

Good to see some green in the crowd though.

Oh and Miller was pretty bad, I think he may need to go to Souths Logan.

[Dr Greenthumb]

Carney scored tries, made line breaks, kicked goals from the sideline and defused bombs. You've gotta give credit where it's due lads.....

Can't believe I talked up Picker a few days ago, he is dreadful.

Thurling, Logan and Shillington (stupid penalties aside) were great imo.

I know it's been said a thousand times, but when Buttriss is fit he must come in for Tongue at hooker. I love the bloke and I really appreciate the extra effort he's putting in, but he was missing tackles and barely making it to the play the ball well before fatigue had set in.

[markqt]

Seriously have no clue why Tongue passed it to Miller on the 5th TWICE... If it was to see a special Miller Chip kick then I forgive you Tongue Hurts knowing we need a specialist 80 minute hooker.... And if we happen to find one, Fensom has his name all over the Number 13 jersey... And for Tongue, I have no clue

[.:lockyer:.]

So disappointing for so many reasons...

-A hamstrung injury saved McCrone the indignity of the hook IMO. We were rudderless for the whole game, but Mogg gets a few bonus points for a nice chip kick and smashing Carney's ribs.

-I've been saying Thompson should be in the backrow and tonight did nothing to change my mind. The guy simply isn't getting quality service from his inside men on a consistent basis... at least if he is the backrow he can run off Campo instead of waiting for McCrone to get him the ball. Frankly, I think McCrone's inconsistencies are a major cause of Harrison's relatively poor start to the season.

-I've also been saying that Picker will be very lucky to keep his place in the team when we get more troops back. Again, tonight did nothing to change my mind.

-Thurling was excellent again. He's been our best forward this year.

-TLL looks close to returning to his damaging best. Probably the only real positive to come out of the night.

-Girlfriend's first Raiders experience... Wishing it was last week.

Totally agree.... jezzz that was a lonely and long trip on the train.

Highlights of the night
1. Raiders fan attempting to heckle Carney on the first conversion
2. The barricade separating the raiders and roosters supporters after the game. Gates, Security and Police That was priceless.

[LP Raider]

Good to see a lot of raiders jerseys out tonight.

I was with roosters fans tonight and they commented on the amount of green.

[GreenSoul]

That was the most pathetic load of rubbish i have EVER seen. We could not have played any worse if they tried. Miller is sh*t, why bring him back in so quickly? Tilse couldnt catch a cold, Tongue isnt a hooker, Campo did f*** all but i guess thats better than dropping it every two minutes like miller did, and every one else looked disinterested. We are by far the wrost team in the NRL, and i cant believe i wasted my time and money to watch that rubbish! Furner is not a coach and we are not too far off rock bottom. Most of that team that turned up tonight would not be picked for any other first grade team.

Slight over reaction

You think? that was one of the most inept performances ive seen in over 20 years of following the club. Rather than improve week to week, we still cant get the basics right, like catching a ball for instance. If its too hard for them perhaps they should pick another sport?

Lol, people say this after every loss. Grow a set, it's been much worse.

[david231280]

According to Josh Dugan's facebook

Josh Dugan
Me personally just played ****

[green eyebrow]

Picker should not be in the side and Trevor Thurling should start every game because he runs hard at the line and makes good yards. I can not understand why Furner picks Picker over Thurling. Game was terrible to watch.

I totally agree

[aussie1st]

Geez we are an inconsistent bunch, but sadly I've come to expect this from us and its a miracle when it doesn't happen. Good to see TLL coming back to his best and Thurling was great once again. Their gametime wasn't enough though, both got under 40 minutes when they should be playing around 50 minutes each.

Once again we don't pass the ball out to the backs enough, I bearly remember Vidot touching the pass in attack and same goes for JT. Harrison and McCrone were hogging the ball once again and taking the hitup, Harrison could at least bring back his offloads if he is going that.

[thickos]

Tough night in the stands... that was awful. I can't add anything more than what has been said by the rational posters around here, it was disjointed and boring and uninspiring.

The whole thing would hurt much less if it wasn't the Roosters. Man I hate that awful club.

[edwahu]

It's sad to see numerous posts calling Miller a crap player. Seriously, he deserves better then that. He has outperformed plenty of GH favourites for a long time.

[R@IDER]

ABsolutely painful performance to watch. This game showed how much we miss a quality hooker and half. Not to mention how much we missed Fensoms play.
I just knew after 15 mins which Raiders team showed up and I'm sure most of us did as well.
We aren't premiership contenders, haven't been for too long and won't be untill we get a quality 9,7. Is there any money to throw at Thurston!??!

[R@IDER]

It's sad to see numerous posts calling Miller a crap player. Seriously, he deserves better then that. He has outperformed plenty of GH favourites for a long time.

Not the point though mate. He gives 100% and that's great to see as a fan but his hands are awful!! And have been for a while. I cringe whenever he, Tilse or Thommo are hitting the ball up. Goes for a lot of our players.

[Seiffert82]

Worst performance ever. Board and Coach should be sacked for releasing Carney. Carney is a superstar. Miller is ****. Tongue is not a hooker. McCrone sucks. We are not first grade standard. We won't win another game all year. Tilse is a passenger. Carney is a legend. We didn't have a game plan. Why are we coached to drop balls. We are not first grade standard. Terrible performance away from home AGAIN.

Good to get that off my chest.

We lost an away game with a short turnaround to a half decent team - some of the reactions here indicate this sort of thing has never before happened in the history of Rugby League. Yeah we were ordinary out there, but some of you guys dead set drop your bundles sometimes.

[edwahu]

It's sad to see numerous posts calling Miller a crap player. Seriously, he deserves better then that. He has outperformed plenty of GH favourites for a long time.

Not the point though mate. He gives 100% and that's great to see as a fan but his hands are awful!! And have been for a while. I cringe whenever he, Tilse or Thommo are hitting the ball up. Goes for a lot of our players.

The point is he is not crap, regardless of what people think about his handling. He is a very good player and has put in enough good performances to not have stupid calls that he isnt first grade standard made about him.

I accept he wont get the same free pass around here because he isnt flashy or gimmicky compared to players he has outperformed like TLL, Tilse or Harrison. I just wonder what more people need to see to confirm his efforts then having the players themselves vote him a player of the year twice.

[DJ89]

It's sad to see numerous posts calling Miller a crap player. Seriously, he deserves better then that. He has outperformed plenty of GH favourites for a long time.

Not the point though mate. He gives 100% and that's great to see as a fan but his hands are awful!! And have been for a while. I cringe whenever he, Tilse or Thommo are hitting the ball up. Goes for a lot of our players.

The point is he is not crap, regardless of what people think about his handling. He is a very good player and has put in enough good performances to not have stupid calls that he isnt first grade standard made about him.

I accept he wont get the same free pass around here because he isnt flashy or gimmicky compared to players he has outperformed like TLL, Tilse or Harrison. I just wonder what more people need to see to confirm his efforts then having the players themselves vote him a player of the year twice.

I agree he isnt a bad player, but we have how many backrowers that are better then him? As someone said- at best he is an interchange prop in a full strength squad. IMO the main reason for his player of the year awards is due to his durability, playing more games than others because he is injury free

[Stuat]

It's sad to see numerous posts calling Miller a crap player. Seriously, he deserves better then that. He has outperformed plenty of GH favourites for a long time.

Not the point though mate. He gives 100% and that's great to see as a fan but his hands are awful!! And have been for a while. I cringe whenever he, Tilse or Thommo are hitting the ball up. Goes for a lot of our players.

The point is he is not crap, regardless of what people think about his handling. He is a very good player and has put in enough good performances to not have stupid calls that he isnt first grade standard made about him.

I accept he wont get the same free pass around here because he isnt flashy or gimmicky compared to players he has outperformed like TLL, Tilse or Harrison. I just wonder what more people need to see to confirm his efforts then having the players themselves vote him a player of the year twice.

Good post. Agree with all of it. It seems all a player needs to do to undo years of good work and no longer be FG standard on these boards is drop two balls after coming back from injury.

The GH always picks a couple of scapegoats during the year, often undeservedly. Miller definitely doesn't deserve it. Neither does Tongue at hooker to be honest.

[Inactive]

Worst performance ever. Board and Coach should be sacked for releasing Carney. Carney is a superstar. Miller is ****. Tongue is not a hooker. McCrone sucks. We are not first grade standard. We won't win another game all year. Tilse is a passenger. Carney is a legend. We didn't have a game plan. Why are we coached to drop balls. We are not first grade standard. Terrible performance away from home AGAIN.

Good to get that off my chest.

We lost an away game with a short turnaround to a half decent team - some of the reactions here indicate this sort of thing has never before happened in the history of Rugby League. Yeah we were ordinary out there, but some of you guys dead set drop your bundles sometimes.

we drop our bundles

[myanonymoususername]

firstly yes i am disappointed after the loss tonight but lets be honest here

* we played a tough game on Monday very few teams win after Monday
* we spent half the week travelling up and down to sydney
* we lost Mcrone early due to injury
* duges, croker and others carried injury into the game and the team looked buggered early (but never gave up IMO )
* we lose picker again when he got kocked out again this week (should he have been playing??)
* lots of media attention this week- distraction for such a young team?
* big hype even from the supporters (yep us!)
* Fenson ruled out late in the week
* two away games in a row
* roosters after a bad game and aiming up to "get us" for Todd

So yeah we lost, it sux but it could of been worse and anyone really thought we were going to go that well after Monday?

Maybe we should have stayed in sydney? maybe changed the team more?
i dont know but am still very very proud of the boys

Duges is playing injured every week and they were gang tackling him- trying to bust him! And he always got back up. Same with James Stuart.

So lets move on and think positive for next week.

Most of this is just excuses, excuses. Good teams - and I mean management, coach and players - find solutions to their problems, not excuses.

Last night:

[*] the Raiders played in slow motion compared to the Roosters.
[*] Tongue was terrible at hooker - he was slow, threw slow looping passes and took bad options many times
[*] so many times I saw our players standing still or having to slow down to a walk almost to take a pass
[*] McCrone and Campese were basically non-existent all night - for the roughly $15k per game Campo is getting he should be excellent and step up in every single game
[*] players like Tilse, Miller (Troy Thompson when he's playing) are good for dumb, unforced errors a couple of times a game - they have been for years without showing any signs that their problems are being fixed. Picker's becoming another in that category.
[*] most of the team looked like they wanted to be anywhere but at the SFS - it was especially noticeable with Dugan (maybe thats more obvious as he went from his usual high standards to just another bumbling damn average looking player)
[*]we obviously have some dumb players who can't concentrate for a whole set of 6 tackles, let alone a whole game ... how often do they get in each others way, do something dumb on the last tackle etc?

There is really no excuse for what was served up last night. The Raiders were complete ****! Message to everyone at the club - your job is to fix it, urgently.