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AUDIO: Why staying at the Canberra Raiders is the right thing for Josh Hodgson to do: Scott Sattler: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=931961

Final call made on Josh Hodgson Wests Tigers move as Joey Leilua secures career lifeline: https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league ... -c-4675703
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greeneyed wrote:AUDIO: Why staying at the Canberra Raiders is the right thing for Josh Hodgson to do: Scott Sattler: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=931961

Final call made on Josh Hodgson Wests Tigers move as Joey Leilua secures career lifeline: https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league ... -c-4675703
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cat wrote: November 20, 2021, 8:46 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: November 20, 2021, 4:43 pm Pity more clubs don't have the kahunas to freeze the prick out.

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This is what I don't get, its not just the raiders Issac Moses has screwed yet other clubs play ball with him.

Same with Sam Ayoub.

I actually thought 12months ago Hodgo had more brains/integrity then to be sucked into Moses games. Turns out I was wrong.

Its like dating a cheater, why do people think they wont cheat on them when they have cheated on their ex on the past?
Clubs need to agree not to work with these muppets.


As far as I know the only one left once Hodgo goes is Rapana ..
Cat where do you stand on a potential Nick Cotric return. Something the club should pursue or an opportunity to take a principled stand that we don’t sign him unless he drops Ayoub as manager?
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I never understood why the Tigers were after him. Hodgo was never going to pull the Tigers out of their purgatory. They need to find their Kayln Ponga.
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the bone wrote:I never understood why the Tigers were after him. Hodgo was never going to pull the Tigers out of their purgatory. They need to find their Kayln Ponga.
A player to completely throw the coach under a bus?
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Roy Rover wrote: November 25, 2021, 8:04 am
greeneyed wrote:AUDIO: Why staying at the Canberra Raiders is the right thing for Josh Hodgson to do: Scott Sattler: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=931961

Final call made on Josh Hodgson Wests Tigers move as Joey Leilua secures career lifeline: https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league ... -c-4675703
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zim wrote: November 25, 2021, 4:16 pm
Roy Rover wrote: November 25, 2021, 8:04 am
greeneyed wrote:AUDIO: Why staying at the Canberra Raiders is the right thing for Josh Hodgson to do: Scott Sattler: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=931961

Final call made on Josh Hodgson Wests Tigers move as Joey Leilua secures career lifeline: https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league ... -c-4675703
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the bone wrote:I never understood why the Tigers were after him. Hodgo was never going to pull the Tigers out of their purgatory. They need to find their Kayln Ponga.
What like Ryan Papenhuzen(sp)?


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RTW wrote: November 25, 2021, 6:58 pm
the bone wrote:I never understood why the Tigers were after him. Hodgo was never going to pull the Tigers out of their purgatory. They need to find their Kayln Ponga.
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the bone wrote:I never understood why the Tigers were after him. Hodgo was never going to pull the Tigers out of their purgatory. They need to find their Kayln Ponga.
A player to completely throw the coach under a bus?
Sorry Boney I should provide a serious response. I think they were after Hodgson for leadership. They got Tamou but he's past it and lucky to squeeze out 35 minutes of gametime. Whenever things turn to custard for them, or Madge is giving them a spray every single player is looking sheepishly at their boots. Not one player is leading them. Brooks isn't a leader. Mybe was awful, Douehi looks promising but not quite there yet. I mean it is debatable that Hodgson is also past it but I think he would offer more leadership than Tamou.
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gergreg wrote: November 25, 2021, 8:43 pm
gergreg wrote:
the bone wrote:I never understood why the Tigers were after him. Hodgo was never going to pull the Tigers out of their purgatory. They need to find their Kayln Ponga.
A player to completely throw the coach under a bus?
Sorry Boney I should provide a serious response. I think they were after Hodgson for leadership. They got Tamou but he's past it and lucky to squeeze out 35 minutes of gametime. Whenever things turn to custard for them, or Madge is giving them a spray every single player is looking sheepishly at their boots. Not one player is leading them. Brooks isn't a leader. Mybe was awful, Douehi looks promising but not quite there yet. I mean it is debatable that Hodgson is also past it but I think he would offer more leadership than Tamou.
Buying someone purely for leadership isn’t going to cut it. Tamou is a good leader, he wasn’t able to help them. Tigers need to stop recruiting players that are past their best - BJ, Roberts, Tamou, Hodgson etc - and instead focus on finding a young stud that they can build their franchise around. Papenhuzen could’ve been that, but they let him go thinking they’d re-sign Teddy. Very poorly managed.
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the bone wrote:
gergreg wrote: November 25, 2021, 8:43 pm
gergreg wrote:
the bone wrote:I never understood why the Tigers were after him. Hodgo was never going to pull the Tigers out of their purgatory. They need to find their Kayln Ponga.
A player to completely throw the coach under a bus?
Sorry Boney I should provide a serious response. I think they were after Hodgson for leadership. They got Tamou but he's past it and lucky to squeeze out 35 minutes of gametime. Whenever things turn to custard for them, or Madge is giving them a spray every single player is looking sheepishly at their boots. Not one player is leading them. Brooks isn't a leader. Mybe was awful, Douehi looks promising but not quite there yet. I mean it is debatable that Hodgson is also past it but I think he would offer more leadership than Tamou.
Buying someone purely for leadership isn’t going to cut it. Tamou is a good leader, he wasn’t able to help them. Tigers need to stop recruiting players that are past their best - BJ, Roberts, Tamou, Hodgson etc - and instead focus on finding a young stud that they can build their franchise around. Papenhuzen could’ve been that, but they let him go thinking they’d re-sign Teddy. Very poorly managed.
I think we can disagree on the first point. A couple of times they leaked 30 points in a half of football. They needed an on-field leader to help stem that. You are right though, in that some of the recruitment decisions were very bad. They didn't need James Roberts or BJ.

I think they have a couple of decent players to build around. Laurie and Douehi are promising and they generally have decent juniors coming through. And that is a part of the reason they go after what they consider to be leaders.

The other tough thing to juggle is cap management. Clubs need to spend - it was either 90 or 95% of their salary cap, and that makes it really tough for those clubs near the bottom of the ladder, to attract decent players. I think this is how players like Mbye, W. Hopoate, BJ , Roberts continue to get (over-inflated) contracts. Clubs don't necessarily want to overpay those young, exceptional talents because it creates animosity within the playing group - or any workforce for that matter. The fans don't necessarily know how much each player is earning but I'm confident in saying that the players do.
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I think the Raiders have done well with the Hodgo decision making over the off season. For a few reasons:

(1) Given we would not consider extending him at current value, it was the right thing to do to allow him to look for a longer deal. This is good for the playing group to see. It enhances the perception that we have the players and the families best interests in mind. This was especially important given the right mess we made of the G WIlliams situation last year.

(2) There was no reason for us to kick in too much for someone to take him. At his best he is a great hooker. He is not coming off a knee reco this year, and he will be very highly motivated playing for a new contract. Assuming he is physically ok - I expect we get the best of Hodgo in 2022.

And if not, we have proper $ to use how we see fit.

(3) His inflated sense of his own market value has now been corrected. I mean, the Tigers could have front ended a long term deal had they of wanted to. I would not even rule out that he re-signs mid year at a lower rate, with all parties happy.

This was smart pool all around, imo
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Hodgson would have been a dud buy for the tigers.

But he'll serve us well.
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dubby wrote: November 28, 2021, 6:30 pm Hodgson would have been a dud buy for the tigers.

But he'll serve us well.
Yeah that’s how I see it too
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As RichmondRaider pointed out, the biggest risk for us in Hodgo staying is the temptation for him to do too much. If Fogarty has the kahunas to take control, it could transform our entire attack.

No more dud kicks early in the set, rushing out of the line to take nobody in defence or cramping our halves for space thanks.

If he focuses on providing good service, judicious use of his short kicking game and getting our forwards on a roll, he'll be really good to have around.

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Seiffert82 wrote: November 29, 2021, 4:03 pm As RichmondRaider pointed out, the biggest risk for us in Hodgo staying is the temptation for him to do too much. If Fogarty has the kahunas to take control, it could transform our entire attack.

No more dud kicks early in the set, rushing out of the line to take nobody in defence or cramping our halves for space thanks.

If he focuses on providing good service, judicious use of his short kicking game and getting our forwards on a roll, he'll be really good to have around.

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What would make you think he can do the opposite of what he’s done for most of his career through? I can’t see him magically just taking a back seat and suddenly being a team player after years of selfish (and at times boneheaded) play
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Rickmando wrote: November 29, 2021, 5:37 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: November 29, 2021, 4:03 pm As RichmondRaider pointed out, the biggest risk for us in Hodgo staying is the temptation for him to do too much. If Fogarty has the kahunas to take control, it could transform our entire attack.

No more dud kicks early in the set, rushing out of the line to take nobody in defence or cramping our halves for space thanks.

If he focuses on providing good service, judicious use of his short kicking game and getting our forwards on a roll, he'll be really good to have around.

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What would make you think he can do the opposite of what he’s done for most of his career through? I can’t see him magically just taking a back seat and suddenly being a team player after years of selfish (and at times boneheaded) play
I understand Hodgson has his faults as a footballer, he’s not Cam Smith
However your crusade against virtually everyone and everything the club is or has done had tipped you well and truly over the edge of rational and reasonable posting

The way you speak about Hodgson, is as if he is a Matt Orford level signing, when the facts of the matter is he has been, for the VAST majority of his career here, arguably the best and most impactful footballer this club has had in nigh on two decades

We all want to get back to where we were in 2019… here’s a tip for you mate, where we were in 2019 was ONLY possible because of Josh Hodgson
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Botman wrote: November 29, 2021, 6:28 pm
Rickmando wrote: November 29, 2021, 5:37 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: November 29, 2021, 4:03 pm As RichmondRaider pointed out, the biggest risk for us in Hodgo staying is the temptation for him to do too much. If Fogarty has the kahunas to take control, it could transform our entire attack.

No more dud kicks early in the set, rushing out of the line to take nobody in defence or cramping our halves for space thanks.

If he focuses on providing good service, judicious use of his short kicking game and getting our forwards on a roll, he'll be really good to have around.

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What would make you think he can do the opposite of what he’s done for most of his career through? I can’t see him magically just taking a back seat and suddenly being a team player after years of selfish (and at times boneheaded) play
I understand Hodgson has his faults as a footballer, he’s not Cam Smith
However your crusade against virtually everyone and everything the club is or has done had tipped you well and truly over the edge of rational and reasonable posting

The way you speak about Hodgson, is as if he is a Matt Orford level signing, when the facts of the matter is he has been, for the VAST majority of his career here, arguably the best and most impactful footballer this club has had in nigh on two decades

We all want to get back to where we were in 2019… here’s a tip for you mate, where we were in 2019 was ONLY possible because of Josh Hodgson
With that kind of sentimentality driving your future recruitment and talent development decisions - are you sure you aren’t employed by the Football Department at the Raiders mate? The original title of this thread was about Hodgson in 2022 - why are we travelling back in time?
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Hodgson isn’t half the footballer Starling is these days. Unfortunately his ego and his pay packet would unlikely just let him accept that and suddenly become a #14 who is happy with his 0-20 mins per week (Rick’s bench tactics) that suddenly decides to stop over calling his halves, revokes his own kicking licence, and actually puts his shoulders into tackles!

I’m not even knocking him for doing the above! As a senior player it’s his right to insist he plays the way he does. But it’s the club’s job to acknowledge he will likely be a very over-paid under-deliverer in 2022. We weren’t able to offload him? No dramas, bring him back into the fold. But don’t magically expect him to suddenly be an improvement over the last two seasons, and don’t complain when Starling doesn’t reach his full potential or gets poached by another club who will make him their starting 9
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Roger Kenworthy wrote: November 25, 2021, 5:50 pm
zim wrote: November 25, 2021, 4:16 pm
Roy Rover wrote: November 25, 2021, 8:04 am
greeneyed wrote:AUDIO: Why staying at the Canberra Raiders is the right thing for Josh Hodgson to do: Scott Sattler: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=931961

Final call made on Josh Hodgson Wests Tigers move as Joey Leilua secures career lifeline: https://7news.com.au/sport/rugby-league ... -c-4675703
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Rickmando wrote:Hodgson isn’t half the footballer Starling is these days. Unfortunately his ego and his pay packet would unlikely just let him accept that and suddenly become a #14 who is happy with his 0-20 mins per week (Rick’s bench tactics) that suddenly decides to stop over calling his halves, revokes his own kicking licence, and actually puts his shoulders into tackles!

I’m not even knocking him for doing the above! As a senior player it’s his right to insist he plays the way he does. But it’s the club’s job to acknowledge he will likely be a very over-paid under-deliverer in 2022. We weren’t able to offload him? No dramas, bring him back into the fold. But don’t magically expect him to suddenly be an improvement over the last two seasons, and don’t complain when Starling doesn’t reach his full potential or gets poached by another club who will make him their starting 9
Anybody reading your posts would conclude that you absolutely hate this club and then they'd probably wonder what the hell you are doing on this forum.
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gergreg wrote: November 30, 2021, 6:52 am
Rickmando wrote:Hodgson isn’t half the footballer Starling is these days. Unfortunately his ego and his pay packet would unlikely just let him accept that and suddenly become a #14 who is happy with his 0-20 mins per week (Rick’s bench tactics) that suddenly decides to stop over calling his halves, revokes his own kicking licence, and actually puts his shoulders into tackles!

I’m not even knocking him for doing the above! As a senior player it’s his right to insist he plays the way he does. But it’s the club’s job to acknowledge he will likely be a very over-paid under-deliverer in 2022. We weren’t able to offload him? No dramas, bring him back into the fold. But don’t magically expect him to suddenly be an improvement over the last two seasons, and don’t complain when Starling doesn’t reach his full potential or gets poached by another club who will make him their starting 9
Anybody reading your posts would conclude that you absolutely hate this club and then they'd probably wonder what the hell you are doing on this forum.
Based on what? My dislike of the coach and a couple of senior players. You’re seeing what you want to see - plenty of praise for others on other threads.

I want this club to have success, I’m firm in my belief that we don’t get that success with Rick, Hodgo and Croker. And I’m not sorry if that offends your sensibilities.
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Rickmando wrote:
gergreg wrote: November 30, 2021, 6:52 am
Rickmando wrote:Hodgson isn’t half the footballer Starling is these days. Unfortunately his ego and his pay packet would unlikely just let him accept that and suddenly become a #14 who is happy with his 0-20 mins per week (Rick’s bench tactics) that suddenly decides to stop over calling his halves, revokes his own kicking licence, and actually puts his shoulders into tackles!

I’m not even knocking him for doing the above! As a senior player it’s his right to insist he plays the way he does. But it’s the club’s job to acknowledge he will likely be a very over-paid under-deliverer in 2022. We weren’t able to offload him? No dramas, bring him back into the fold. But don’t magically expect him to suddenly be an improvement over the last two seasons, and don’t complain when Starling doesn’t reach his full potential or gets poached by another club who will make him their starting 9
Anybody reading your posts would conclude that you absolutely hate this club and then they'd probably wonder what the hell you are doing on this forum.
Based on what? My dislike of the coach and a couple of senior players. You’re seeing what you want to see - plenty of praise for others on other threads.

I want this club to have success, I’m firm in my belief that we don’t get that success with Rick, Hodgo and Croker. And I’m not sorry if that offends your sensibilities.
I'm not offended by your over the top hand wringing, about things you have no control over. It's quite entertaining, however it would be nice if you could threaten to burn your jerseys or something a little more dramatic.
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gergreg wrote: November 30, 2021, 12:23 pm
Rickmando wrote:
gergreg wrote: November 30, 2021, 6:52 am
Rickmando wrote:Hodgson isn’t half the footballer Starling is these days. Unfortunately his ego and his pay packet would unlikely just let him accept that and suddenly become a #14 who is happy with his 0-20 mins per week (Rick’s bench tactics) that suddenly decides to stop over calling his halves, revokes his own kicking licence, and actually puts his shoulders into tackles!

I’m not even knocking him for doing the above! As a senior player it’s his right to insist he plays the way he does. But it’s the club’s job to acknowledge he will likely be a very over-paid under-deliverer in 2022. We weren’t able to offload him? No dramas, bring him back into the fold. But don’t magically expect him to suddenly be an improvement over the last two seasons, and don’t complain when Starling doesn’t reach his full potential or gets poached by another club who will make him their starting 9
Anybody reading your posts would conclude that you absolutely hate this club and then they'd probably wonder what the hell you are doing on this forum.
Based on what? My dislike of the coach and a couple of senior players. You’re seeing what you want to see - plenty of praise for others on other threads.

I want this club to have success, I’m firm in my belief that we don’t get that success with Rick, Hodgo and Croker. And I’m not sorry if that offends your sensibilities.
I'm not offended by your over the top hand wringing, about things you have no control over. It's quite entertaining, however it would be nice if you could threaten to burn your jerseys or something a little more dramatic.
Oh would you look at that - having an opinion on an Internet forum is now “over the top hand wringing”.

How’s that glass house of yours going by the way? Any rock-related breakage incidents by any chance? Hope it’s insured!!
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Rickmando wrote: November 30, 2021, 7:39 am
gergreg wrote: November 30, 2021, 6:52 am
Rickmando wrote:Hodgson isn’t half the footballer Starling is these days. Unfortunately his ego and his pay packet would unlikely just let him accept that and suddenly become a #14 who is happy with his 0-20 mins per week (Rick’s bench tactics) that suddenly decides to stop over calling his halves, revokes his own kicking licence, and actually puts his shoulders into tackles!

I’m not even knocking him for doing the above! As a senior player it’s his right to insist he plays the way he does. But it’s the club’s job to acknowledge he will likely be a very over-paid under-deliverer in 2022. We weren’t able to offload him? No dramas, bring him back into the fold. But don’t magically expect him to suddenly be an improvement over the last two seasons, and don’t complain when Starling doesn’t reach his full potential or gets poached by another club who will make him their starting 9
Anybody reading your posts would conclude that you absolutely hate this club and then they'd probably wonder what the hell you are doing on this forum.
Based on what? My dislike of the coach and a couple of senior players. You’re seeing what you want to see - plenty of praise for others on other threads.

I want this club to have success, I’m firm in my belief that we don’t get that success with Rick, Hodgo and Croker. And I’m not sorry if that offends your sensibilities.
Yeah I’ve never understood the attitude that if you show anything other than total adoration for anyone in a green jumper you are not a fan. Like you, I’d also like to see this club successful again and I don’t see anything wrong with discussing and debating some of the reasons and players that are impeding that success.

It’s easy to shoot down Afghka for his views on Sezer, dismiss you as having a vendetta against Ricky or question my sanity for thinking Croker isn’t an immortal.

The long premiership drought and not making the finals last year is evidence that there are issues at the club. I prefer reading people’s views about what they might be than reading benign commentary from supporters with heads firmly in the sand.
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I think one of the points being made is that some people seem to only come on here to complain, but maybe don't seem to offer a great deal of praise or acknowledge good work when things are going well.

It's quite easy to have a whinge. We all do it. But it can get a bit tedious.

When that gets called out, a common reaction for many of those people is to suggest others are happy to accept mediocrity.

And on it goes. Good times.


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Seiffert82 wrote: November 30, 2021, 3:07 pm I think one of the points being made is that some people seem to only come on here to complain, but maybe don't seem to offer a great deal of praise or acknowledge good work when things are going well.

It's quite easy to have a whinge. We all do it. But it can get a bit tedious.

When that gets called out, a common reaction for many of those people is to suggest others are happy to accept mediocrity.

And on it goes. Good times.
I am literally on todays other active thread praising a recent ex-player and advocating for his return to the lime green.

As a part of this particular Hodgson discussion, I am championing Starling as a future rep player (the crux of my argument to send Hodgo packing, funnily enough).

As I pointed out earlier, it’s others who are focusing on the negative commentary here. It’s easy to knock, but whatever. I’m all about vigorous discussion. The great shame about this place is that if you dare have an alternative opinion, or take a pop at a protected species, everyone slams you as a troll.

Believe me, if you want a raiders premiership, then we want the same thing. All we are disagreeing on is how to get there
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Rickmando wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote: November 30, 2021, 3:07 pm I think one of the points being made is that some people seem to only come on here to complain, but maybe don't seem to offer a great deal of praise or acknowledge good work when things are going well.

It's quite easy to have a whinge. We all do it. But it can get a bit tedious.

When that gets called out, a common reaction for many of those people is to suggest others are happy to accept mediocrity.

And on it goes. Good times.
I am literally on todays other active thread praising a recent ex-player and advocating for his return to the lime green.

As a part of this particular Hodgson discussion, I am championing Starling as a future rep player (the crux of my argument to send Hodgo packing, funnily enough).

As I pointed out earlier, it’s others who are focusing on the negative commentary here. It’s easy to knock, but whatever. I’m all about vigorous discussion. The great shame about this place is that if you dare have an alternative opinion, or take a pop at a protected species, everyone slams you as a troll.

Believe me, if you want a raiders premiership, then we want the same thing. All we are disagreeing on is how to get there
Yep, totally get it. Just adding my 2 cents to an age old debate, trying to figure out why some people get irritated.

I was slamming Hodgo big time before he got injured in 2020. He is his own worst enemy at times. I agree with the comments you have made on him and others.

I also totally agree that we all want success and have our own views on how that might be facilitated. Keeps the debate interesting.


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I guess it's a fine line between expressing an opinion and flogging a dead horse.
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It’s genuinely hilarious to me that people think that you’re not allowed to have differing opinions on this site.

The entire premise and success of the site is people don’t agree and argue constantly, to the point of absurdity (and I lead the charge on that front)

If you’re not comfortable having your opinions questions or comfortable being in a minority with your view without feeling some way about it, that’s a you problem
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with differing opinions, expressing it and debating it. But there comes a point where criticism of the club, coach or certain players gets pretty **** boring. Honestly, what does typing up 'Ricky Stuart / Croker / Hodgson is crap' on a daily basis add to the forum?

We all get it. We had a bad year where Croker and Hodgson were very ordinary and Ricky got a lot wrong but there is some very short memories ... in forums in general.

If you look at rugby league in the NRL era, as a small sample size, the best player in the game is different almost every season. There is this unrealistic expectation that players are robots and should be playing a 10/10 game every week, every season of their careers. It just doesn't happen.
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This forum needs a feature where if the ad hominem comes out with the careful dissection of respective posts for more than n comments, the combatants are diverted to their own Twilight zone thread to hash it out all without knowing it.

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Botman wrote: November 30, 2021, 8:29 pm It’s genuinely hilarious to me that people think that you’re not allowed to have differing opinions on this site.

The entire premise and success of the site is people don’t agree and argue constantly, to the point of absurdity (and I lead the charge on that front)

If you’re not comfortable having your opinions questions or comfortable being in a minority with your view without feeling some way about it, that’s a you problem
Couldn’t agree more Bot - I reckon you and I have found ourselves on the opposite site of things on more than the odd occasion over the years and have butted heads here and there. But it’s never personal and I enjoy the spirited debate. I actually agree with your views more often than not but importantly I appreciate that you’re wiling to have an opinion, have a go at defending it and don’t just peddle some warped view that every person and thing associated with the raiders is beyond question and must be fawned over.
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Yeah Botman's a real ****
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