NRL blocks Jordan Rapana's return from Japanese union in 2020

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Billy Walker » September 11, 2019, 4:17 pm

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I'd prefer Oldiie takes Jordan's place should he defect to Japanese Rugby. Just for his speed alone ,bloke is a rocket in boots.
I don't think Stuart and co see it that way, due to Simo's varied talents and must be a freak in the gym/track/training paddock.

But Oldie knows his game, knows where to put himself and how to reach that stripe. He's been found out as a centre defensively but as a winger he's big, strong and just fine. Same with his carries out. His energy and line busting ability are easily as good or better than SImo's single turn backwards at the line (slow down) hit and spin move. Oldie just crashed through.

I'm even stevens here- Simo is better defensively and hands. Oldie better yards and speed. Simo more potential upside but also potentially never quite get it. Oldie knows league. Does his job- well.

I think it's win-win at this point.
Oldie certainly had his initial struggles at centre, but I reckon he has been better there than Cotric this year.
I really want Cotric to succeed at centre but can’t disagree with your point about Oldie being better in 4 this year.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by The Nickman » September 11, 2019, 4:40 pm

Why do you want Cotric to succeed at centre so much when we've already got two quality centres??
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Post by The Nickman » September 11, 2019, 4:40 pm

Better question... why do I bother engaging Billy Walker in rational discussion?? I fall for it time and time again.
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by gergreg » September 11, 2019, 5:04 pm

The key to making this work in our favour is not playing it out in the media. Go do your thing in rugby. Then about mid May when the Japanese rugby season finishes ... 'oh hello Ricky, it appears I do not currently have a contract and you only have 29 players in your squad... Maybe we could come to some sort of agreement for the rest of the season... "

How this is currently being played is when the NRL likes to stamp their authority.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Botman » September 11, 2019, 8:22 pm

I dont think it matters, greg.
He's got a right to go and play rugby, he's not contracted to a club, and when he's finished he's free to sign with whomever he wants. I dont see any reason why the NRL would give the faintest **** if we publised it in the damn paper that if healthy he'd come back to us at the end of his rugby deal. As long as we have the cap space and roster stuff sorted, why would they give a ****?
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Billy Walker » September 11, 2019, 8:38 pm

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Why do you want Cotric to succeed at centre so much when we've already got two quality centres??
I wasn’t ignoring you, I didn’t see this question. Cotric is a big bodied centre that would be a handful for any defence if he can get it together. He doesn’t quite have the speed you might want in a winger. I think he could potentially be a very good centre but has only shown glimpses to date.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by gangrenous » September 11, 2019, 9:35 pm

PigRickman wrote:I dont think it matters, greg.
He's got a right to go and play rugby, he's not contracted to a club, and when he's finished he's free to sign with whomever he wants. I dont see any reason why the NRL would give the faintest **** if we publised it in the damn paper that if healthy he'd come back to us at the end of his rugby deal. As long as we have the cap space and roster stuff sorted, why would they give a ****?
Because you’re blatantly flaunting the cap?! Naive to think that publishing your intentions doesn’t change the dynamic imo.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Botman » September 11, 2019, 9:41 pm

Why is it flaunting the cap?
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by The Nickman » September 11, 2019, 10:00 pm

I personally think it’s a rubbish idea and should be illegal

And that has nothing to do with the fact I desperately want to see our blue friend proved wrong again. Absolutely nothing at all
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by gergreg » September 11, 2019, 10:01 pm

It's kind of shoving it in the NRLs face. Better off not tempting fate IMO.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

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The Rickman wrote:I personally think it’s a rubbish idea and should be illegal

And that has nothing to do with the fact I desperately want to see our blue friend proved wrong again. Absolutely nothing at all
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Botman » September 11, 2019, 10:16 pm

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It's kind of shoving it in the NRLs face. Better off not tempting fate IMO.

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shoving what in their face? Signing a free agent before June 30?

A free agent may go and play some japanese rugby and if he is healthy at the end of that season, he'll make himself available to return to the NRL. Obviously we'll be his preference give this is where his home is now, and if we've got the cap room and roster space and the need at that time im sure we'll engage him... but we may not, because maybe Simo is actually a stud, or maybe we've had to use the cap space and roster spot to plug in a massive injury crisis, or some other more desirable player was flushed out of their club and has now taken up that money and space.

Why would the NRL treat it any differently to the way they treat mid season transfers, where teams take on freight to offload an unwanted player, or the Titans signing Watkins from the ESL?
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by dubby » September 12, 2019, 4:19 pm

Jordy has been one of my favorite players ever. I love the guy.

It would hurt to see him in another NRL team.

If he wants mega $$$ in union for a year but comes back here, fine.

In the meantime we have Cotric and Simmonsen.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by gergreg » September 12, 2019, 6:39 pm

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It's kind of shoving it in the NRLs face. Better off not tempting fate IMO.

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shoving what in their face? Signing a free agent before June 30?

A free agent may go and play some japanese rugby and if he is healthy at the end of that season, he'll make himself available to return to the NRL. Obviously we'll be his preference give this is where his home is now, and if we've got the cap room and roster space and the need at that time im sure we'll engage him... but we may not, because maybe Simo is actually a stud, or maybe we've had to use the cap space and roster spot to plug in a massive injury crisis, or some other more desirable player was flushed out of their club and has now taken up that money and space.

Why would the NRL treat it any differently to the way they treat mid season transfers, where teams take on freight to offload an unwanted player, or the Titans signing Watkins from the ESL?
There is nothing wrong with what you are suggesting but I don't know how the NRL would react if there was any sort of agreement for Jordan to go off and play rugby with an agreement in place (already) to come back in May.

Sure they could have a gentleman's agreement to do exactly that but there is no good reason to say it out in the open.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by RedRaider » September 14, 2019, 5:08 am

I would prefer Rapa to stay with the Raiders and play out his career here. But if the 30 year old can make better coin playing a few months of Japanese Rugby then I'd wish him well. Imo he is the best right winger the Raiders have ever had. He is playing busted, hence having last week off. He has a limited time left to make some big dollars before his body says 'no more'.

If the plan is to play Rugby in Japan then come back to the Raiders for half a season I hope it works out for both parties.

I don't think the NRL would care about players going to Rugby and then back to League. There are examples such as Matt Rogers and Wendell Sailor doing exactly that and the NRL welcomed them back.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Coastalraider » September 14, 2019, 5:42 am

I get the feeling this all revolves around Sezer.

I can completely understand the team and Sezer putting all of the negotiations or announcements off until after our season is done. Makes sense. It makes perfect sense also for Sezer to take advantage of his current market value as a top 4 half on a multi year deal somewhere else, rather than milk out 12 months at Mounties next year and hit the market at a significantly reduced value.

My concern is that if Sezer digs his feet in and stays and Rapa has to go, then we won’t be able to have a proper farewell match for one of our greatest wingers.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Azza » October 7, 2019, 8:56 am

Ok that's good news. He seems to have lost some pace but is an excellent winger and we need the depth in the outside backs.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by edwahu » October 7, 2019, 8:58 am

It's good news if it happens but I wouldn't hold it against him if it didn't in the cold light of day.

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Post by yurithe1 » October 7, 2019, 10:30 am

With injuries and age taking their toll on him, I reckon he's maybe got one or two more good seasons left in him. If he goes to Union, he might have five or six.

I recall Wales back Gareth Edwards being interviewed after he returned to Union. He asked what's different between Union and League and he replied, "I was cold. I haven't been cold like this for a long time".

That is, he hardly saw the ball in the backline and couldn't stayed warmed up.
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Post by CJ42 » October 7, 2019, 10:55 am

He’s going to take a pay cut to stay is my guess, champion bloke.


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Post by BadnMean » October 7, 2019, 11:11 am

Azza wrote:
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Ok that's good news. He seems to have lost some pace but is an excellent winger and we need the depth in the outside backs.
Depth, yes. Our backline lacks a bit of pace as it is. Jordy isn't fast enough to finish half chances from more than 5m out anymore, we saw that last night. He's welcome to stay but Simonsen would be starting ahead of him in my best 17.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Azza » October 7, 2019, 11:28 am

Yeah he's definitely lost some pace. I am just hoping it's some injuries from this year and he gets it back, because yeah, if there's one thing we lack a bit of it's pace.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

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That’s my reading of it.
Why not. We’re a genuine chance next year if we work hard.

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That’s my reading of it.
Why not. We’re a genuine chance next year if we work hard.
The more I think about it, the more I feel next year is ours for the taking. Roosters will be without Cronk and maybe Friend if he goes to Bulldogs. Storm will have Smith who’s another year older. Those two are due for a bit of a rebuild.
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Post by Wiki Special » October 7, 2019, 1:31 pm

Is there any way he can earn his dollars in Japan and come back for half a year on the cheap in 2020?
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by GreenMachine » October 7, 2019, 1:35 pm

Wiki Special wrote:
October 7, 2019, 1:31 pm
Is their any way he can earn his dollars in Japan and come back for half a year on the cheap in 2020?
I heard that is what he is considering.
Would be a mid season pick up (around round 9 or 10).
I don’t know how much truth there is in it.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by RTW » October 7, 2019, 1:44 pm

GreenMachine wrote:
Wiki Special wrote:
October 7, 2019, 1:31 pm
Is their any way he can earn his dollars in Japan and come back for half a year on the cheap in 2020?
I heard that is what he is considering.
Would be a mid season pick up (around round 9 or 10).
I don’t know how much truth there is in it.
By that stage he may very well need to play reserve grade until we get an injury/origin.


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RTW wrote:
October 7, 2019, 1:44 pm
GreenMachine wrote:
Wiki Special wrote:
October 7, 2019, 1:31 pm
Is their any way he can earn his dollars in Japan and come back for half a year on the cheap in 2020?
I heard that is what he is considering.
Would be a mid season pick up (around round 9 or 10).
I don’t know how much truth there is in it.
By that stage he may very well need to play reserve grade until we get an injury/origin.


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Maybe, but worst case scenario in my opinion is if we have wingers in form when he came back he could be our 14.

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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

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Post by Coastalraider » October 7, 2019, 3:37 pm

-PJ- wrote:
October 7, 2019, 2:54 pm
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October 7, 2019, 8:54 am
T_R wrote:
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Did JordyRaps just leak the 2020 draw ?
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Re: Rapana eyes Japan rugby union switch

Post by Martini » October 7, 2019, 3:52 pm

A Broncos friend reckoned there was strong rumours he is going up there. After that interview sounds like he is hanging around.

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