Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by LP Raider » May 16, 2018, 5:15 pm

I don't see Boyd as a 60 minute prop, that's what's going to be required next year for good coin as a prop.

Looking like we should be able to hold onto Paulo, who in the past has played those sort of minutes.

If we keep Paulo then I'm happy the club hasn't paid overs for Boyd.

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by LP Raider » May 16, 2018, 5:19 pm

afgtnk wrote:
May 16, 2018, 5:07 pm
Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
For a 40 minute player its overs. I'd rather pay 1.2 mil for a half who plays 80 minutes.

You could have enticed a Mitchell Pearce or Ponga for 1.5 mil and still be better off.

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by Green eyed Mick » May 16, 2018, 5:48 pm

I wanted Boyd to stay but the way he backed up his MOM performance against the Titans with a bludger of a game against the Sharks has me leaning towards this being a smart decision by the club.

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by gangrenous » May 16, 2018, 5:56 pm

afgtnk wrote:Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
Yes it is. You get the same question I asked earlier to someone else. Name me the players in the starting 13 that should be earning less than Boyd and what should they be on.

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by Raiders_Pat » May 16, 2018, 6:01 pm

afgtnk wrote:
May 16, 2018, 5:07 pm
Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
The club was right on this one. A prop averaging 40min give or take should not be paid $600k imo. If he was capable of producing 50mins minimum, fine. But that's not the case. This isn't a Paul Vaughan type of situation where Boyd will go on to do amazing things at the Titans (I could be wrong but I just highly doubt it).

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by Pigman » May 16, 2018, 6:07 pm

afgtnk wrote:
May 16, 2018, 5:07 pm
Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
Stuart and Mulholland have been very clear and very vocal that they won’t be matching “astronomical” offers for Boyd

Don has long overstayed his welcome. But the decision to not match 600k sits with Stuart and Mulholland, not Don.
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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by greeneyed » May 16, 2018, 6:11 pm

Ultimately, it is the head coach who decides on recruitment and retention and contracts... unless you're a Paul McGregor type coach who handed that over (voluntarily or not).
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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by afgtnk » May 16, 2018, 6:23 pm

gangrenous wrote:
May 16, 2018, 5:56 pm
afgtnk wrote:Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
Yes it is. You get the same question I asked earlier to someone else. Name me the players in the starting 13 that should be earning less than Boyd and what should they be on.

You get the special clause of substituting a halfback you actually want. You don’t get to say Sezer $0 here Image
No, it's not. It's less than 300k in old money.

Not that much for a rep prop.

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by greeneyed » May 16, 2018, 6:24 pm

Shannon Boyd's departure a big loss for Canberra Raiders: Nick Cotric

Canberra winger Nick Cotric said departing prop Shannon Boyd deserves to be sent out on a high note after it was announced he has signed a lucrative four-year-deal with Gold Coast from 2019.

"It will definitely be a big loss for the club but Boydy is a good fella, so he had to do the right thing for him, but that's footy, I guess," Cotric said. "The boys will do as much as we can this year, so he can leave on a good note because he's been here a long time at the club so I'm sure he will miss the club as well.

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Titans' NRL pack bigger with Boyd signing: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/titans-nrl- ... yd-signing
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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by afgtnk » May 16, 2018, 6:27 pm

I highly doubt a coach manages contracts.

They would definitely have the final say on who actually gets recruited, but they would have a budget to work within and would have to give their priorities to management.

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by greeneyed » May 16, 2018, 6:28 pm

Paul Vautin says Canberra Raiders will suffer without 'world-class' Boyd and Paulo

The Canberra Raiders are set to cast a wide net to replace two gaping holes in their forward park after Shannon Boyd was poached by the Gold Coast Titans on Wednesday. Rugby league legend Paul Vautin says the Canberra Raiders will "suffer" without props Boyd and Junior Paulo - who has been linked with a return to the Parramatta Eels.

"I just love big, strong, hard and props and they're going to miss them. Ricky is a pretty smart guy but I just hope they've got contingency plan."

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by gergreg » May 16, 2018, 6:28 pm

Pigman wrote:
May 16, 2018, 6:07 pm
afgtnk wrote:
May 16, 2018, 5:07 pm
Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
Stuart and Mulholland have been very clear and very vocal that they won’t be matching “astronomical” offers for Boyd

Don has long overstayed his welcome. But the decision to not match 600k sits with Stuart and Mulholland, not Don.
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Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by gangrenous » May 16, 2018, 6:40 pm

afgtnk wrote:
gangrenous wrote:
May 16, 2018, 5:56 pm
afgtnk wrote:Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
Yes it is. You get the same question I asked earlier to someone else. Name me the players in the starting 13 that should be earning less than Boyd and what should they be on.

You get the special clause of substituting a halfback you actually want. You don’t get to say Sezer $0 here Image
No, it's not. It's less than 300k in old money.

Not that much for a rep prop.
A past rep prop.

If it’s not that much you can answer the question surely?

Unless it’s not that much as in we should have 8.4 M+ tied up in our top 14 players?!

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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by dubby » May 16, 2018, 6:46 pm

Geez, I hope we have someone decent lined up as replacements for Boyd and Paulo
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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by edwahu » May 16, 2018, 7:20 pm

afgtnk wrote:
May 16, 2018, 6:23 pm
gangrenous wrote:
May 16, 2018, 5:56 pm
afgtnk wrote:Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
Yes it is. You get the same question I asked earlier to someone else. Name me the players in the starting 13 that should be earning less than Boyd and what should they be on.

You get the special clause of substituting a halfback you actually want. You don’t get to say Sezer $0 here Image
No, it's not. It's less than 300k in old money.

Not that much for a rep prop.
You have to go back a fair way for it to be less than 300k. The cap was 7 m before the increase to 9.4 this year and they added 5 players.
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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by Pigman » May 16, 2018, 7:20 pm

afgtnk wrote:
May 16, 2018, 6:27 pm
I highly doubt a coach manages contracts.

They would definitely have the final say on who actually gets recruited, but they would have a budget to work within and would have to give their priorities to management.
So when Shannon Boyd's manager came back to Furner and told him "Sorry mate, 550k/3years is a strong offer but he's got a firm 600k/4 years sitting on the table from the Titans. You're going to have match the Titans offer if you want Shannon to stay here"

What happens next?
Do you really think DFJ calls Stuart and Mulholland into his office and tells them "Sorry boys, i know you wanted to keep Boyd but that Titans offer is too rich for my blood" ?
Honestly? You think that's how Stuart lets his club be run?

Let me tell you how this works. DFJ pulls Stuart and Mulholland into his office and says "Hey boys, the 550k isnt getting it done for Boyd. His manager wants us to come up to 600k to match the Titans offer. What do you think?"
Stuart and/or Mulholland respond "No way, 550k was generous we cant go any higher. Stick firm on our offer, if he takes it great. Otherwise we move on."

And ultimately if Stuart said "I need Shannon, we cant lose him. Match the offer and get it done" that's exactly what Don would do.
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Post by Matt » May 16, 2018, 7:45 pm

Fatty opinion on footy these days is about as useful as the imperial system

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Post by Lui_Bon » May 16, 2018, 9:46 pm

Is Mark Nicholls ever going to get good? He looks like the right buiild for the future frontrower, and he's off contract. Agree with those last two post as well.
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Post by Raider47 » May 16, 2018, 9:58 pm

Losing Boyd and Paulo for 1.4 million a season between them isn't the issue, it's just who we get to replace them that is.

As much of a basketcase this club is, even I trust Sticky, Mullohand and DFJ will have something planned.

Otherwise if not, it's:

8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Gubb
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Bateman
16. Gubb
17. Knight

.... jeez :|

FWIW however, what's the hold up with the Paulo announcement? Maybe we're back in the game, otherwise surely it should have been announced by now.
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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by greeneyed » May 16, 2018, 10:01 pm

Have to say, I think it is incredibly disrespectful for Shannon Boyd to appear in a Titans jersey today. It's just not on, and it shouldn't be done.
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Post by Seiffert82 » May 16, 2018, 10:05 pm

afgtnk wrote:
May 16, 2018, 6:23 pm
gangrenous wrote:
May 16, 2018, 5:56 pm
afgtnk wrote:Pretty disappointed. 600k in today's cap isn't much.

This club is **** up royally and Don Furner has long, long overstayed his welcome.
Yes it is. You get the same question I asked earlier to someone else. Name me the players in the starting 13 that should be earning less than Boyd and what should they be on.

You get the special clause of substituting a halfback you actually want. You don’t get to say Sezer $0 here Image
No, it's not. It's less than 300k in old money.

Not that much for a rep prop.
Rep prop indeed.

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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » May 16, 2018, 10:07 pm

Raider47 wrote:Losing Boyd and Paulo for 1.4 million a season between them isn't the issue, it's just who we get to replace them that is.

As much of a basketcase this club is, even I trust Sticky, Mullohand and DFJ will have something planned.

Otherwise if not, it's:

8. Soliola
9. Hodgson
10. Gubb
11. Tapine
12. Whitehead
13. Tapine

14. Havili
15. Bateman
16. Gubb
17. Knight

.... jeez Image

FWIW however, what's the hold up with the Paulo announcement? Maybe we're back in the game, otherwise surely it should have been announced by now.
We’re in for a bad time if Tapine has to play 2 positions at once! I’d love to see Gubb on the field and on the bench at the same time too!
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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by afgtnk » May 16, 2018, 10:08 pm

greeneyed wrote:
May 16, 2018, 10:01 pm
Have to say, I think it is incredibly disrespectful for Shannon Boyd to appear in a Titans jersey today. It's just not on, and it shouldn't be done.
Where?

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afgtnk wrote:
greeneyed wrote:
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Have to say, I think it is incredibly disrespectful for Shannon Boyd to appear in a Titans jersey today. It's just not on, and it shouldn't be done.
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Post by raiderskater » May 16, 2018, 10:11 pm

greeneyed wrote:
May 16, 2018, 10:01 pm
Have to say, I think it is incredibly disrespectful for Shannon Boyd to appear in a Titans jersey today. It's just not on, and it shouldn't be done.
The only picture I've seen was an extremely-poorly photoshopped picture where they'd basically taken a pic of him in his Raiders kit and photoshopped it blue. You can even still see the Huawei logo. :roflmao

EDIT: GE, that's the one. It's photoshopped. He's not actually wearing a Titans jersey.
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Post by Jinxed » May 16, 2018, 10:17 pm

Photoshopped, it’s a Raiders Jersey look closely and you can see the top of the Huawei logo above the arms, there is still a tiny bit of the raiders logo note the dark dot where the bottom of logo would sit and the the NRL logo has blue tint from them simply playing with colour balance.

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Post by raiderskater » May 16, 2018, 10:20 pm

GE, it's a photoshop. Look more closely at it. You can still see the Huawei logo! I doubt he did that.
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Post by -TW- » May 16, 2018, 10:21 pm

Offensive? What?

There's things to be offended about and this ain't one of them

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Post by Bay53 » May 16, 2018, 10:37 pm

GE, where did you see that part of the Boyd deal is he is now running the Titans website?

It is a photo of him in a Raiders jersey which someone at the Titans has photoshopped to a blue which probably more looks like a NSW jersey than Titans.

Seriously I reckon you need to get a grip. He has taken up a better offer than we were willing to pay. Good luck to him.

Getting rid of Boyd now would just be stupid. We are already committed to paying his contract and he is clearly in our best team. Hopefully he can be part of a successful 2018 for the Raiders.

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Post by zim » May 16, 2018, 10:45 pm

His management would have had no say whatsoever in that Photoshop.

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Post by Begbie » May 16, 2018, 10:48 pm

Come on mate, fair go.

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Post by Schifty » May 16, 2018, 10:49 pm

The titans jersey doesn't even have stripes on their sleeves like that :lol:

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Post by zim » May 16, 2018, 10:50 pm

Well let's hope he doesn't win the forums player of the year award. That would be an awkward presentation

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Post by CJ42 » May 16, 2018, 10:51 pm

It’s poor form from the titans, thats for sure.


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Re: Canberra Raiders prop Shannon Boyd signs with Gold Coast Titans

Post by Brewdle » May 16, 2018, 10:55 pm

Club should have a go at Titans for that, poor form, in fact Boyd should tell em to take it down n Huawei should make legal noises about altering Trademarks or whatever for poops n giggles


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