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Post by Manbush » November 8, 2010, 11:13 am

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BSB Raiderman wrote:Surfing?
Human endeavour. It is human effort on water, rather than a playing field.
Wasn't that long ago surfing wasn't considered a sport, but it finally got accepted by the main stream, definition of sport changes over time ;)

The main thing IMO should be the human element, a lot of sports use items/machines/technology, but as long as the main element in winning/losing is the human skill is where I'd draw the line for sport.
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Re: Most overrated "sporting" event in Australia

Post by Raiders Lime Milk » November 8, 2010, 12:10 pm

dubby wrote:Melbourne Cup.

A waste of millions of dollars.

A waste of time.

There is no point to this glorified nag race.

Nothing but booze, betting and ladies in stupid ugly hats.

Today, I am ashamed to be an Australian.

not really. I just hate the Melbourne Cup.
Stop being such a nerdburger!

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Post by Raiders Lime Milk » November 8, 2010, 12:15 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
BSB Raiderman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:Is this seriously 4 pages arguing about whether horse racing is a sport and comparing it to gaming? Fair dinkum. :thumbsdown

Just the title of the thread is a joke. Its an event that has a hundred thousands of people attending plus attracts hundreds of thousands more to race tracks across the country. Millions more are watching on TV sets and just about every venue Australia booked out with functions dedicated to it. People who spend 364 days of the year without seeing a horse race are suddnely focussed on the outcome. There is no other event that compares with it.

You claim its over rated? The facts don't really support that case. :nooo

As for gaming being a sport I'd say yes. That Wii tennis can really get you knackered. :D
Hey NR, reckon any of these naysayers would argue Horse Racing isnt a sport after actually following a horse and jockey on a day to day basis? 2 of the most finely tuned athletes in any sport. The racehorse is probably the most highly tuned specimen and the jockeys are physical freaks in their own right.
Short answer, No. If anybody doubts it being a sport they should make come down to track work and see just how much training and effort goes into the whole thing.

If course it is called the Sport of Kings and existed long before most other sports......including Playstation.
I agree with all of the above... except the bit about gaming being a sport. No way I say! But anyone who says horse racing isn't a sport is seriously wrong.

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Re: Most overrated "sporting" event in Australia

Post by The Naked Zombie » November 8, 2010, 3:05 pm

manbush wrote:
greeneyed wrote:
BSB Raiderman wrote:Surfing?
Human endeavour. It is human effort on water, rather than a playing field.
Wasn't that long ago surfing wasn't considered a sport, but it finally got accepted by the main stream, definition of sport changes over time ;)

The main thing IMO should be the human element, a lot of sports use items/machines/technology, but as long as the main element in winning/losing is the human skill is where I'd draw the line for sport.
Your definition means that painting and stacking houses of cards are sports - is that true? Just sayin', seeing as you seem to be the master of sport despite not having left your lounge in the last 15 years.
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Re: Most overrated "sporting" event in Australia

Post by freddo » November 8, 2010, 6:52 pm

Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
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Post by Raiders Lime Milk » November 8, 2010, 6:53 pm

freddo wrote:Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
That's always been a bit of a bugbear of mine, too.

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Post by freddo » November 8, 2010, 7:01 pm

Raiders Lime Milk wrote:
freddo wrote:Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
That's always been a bit of a bugbear of mine, too.
It really annoys me.

like its a very simple thing to say australian rules or aussie rules
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Post by Raiders Lime Milk » November 8, 2010, 7:04 pm

freddo wrote:
Raiders Lime Milk wrote:
freddo wrote:Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
That's always been a bit of a bugbear of mine, too.
It really annoys me.

like its a very simple thing to say australian rules or aussie rules
Agreed. People would never refer to the sport of rugby league as just NRL.

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Post by -TW- » November 8, 2010, 8:04 pm

Raiders Lime Milk wrote:
freddo wrote:
Raiders Lime Milk wrote:
freddo wrote:Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
That's always been a bit of a bugbear of mine, too.
It really annoys me.

like its a very simple thing to say australian rules or aussie rules
Agreed. People would never refer to the sport of rugby league as just NRL.
a lot do...

when I say I play footy, they ask AFL or NRL?

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Post by Raiders Lime Milk » November 8, 2010, 8:06 pm

Tim W wrote:
Raiders Lime Milk wrote:
freddo wrote:
Raiders Lime Milk wrote:
freddo wrote:Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
That's always been a bit of a bugbear of mine, too.
It really annoys me.

like its a very simple thing to say australian rules or aussie rules
Agreed. People would never refer to the sport of rugby league as just NRL.
a lot do...

when I say I play footy, they ask AFL or NRL?
Well they shouldn't :lol:

Unless you do secretly play for an NRL club.

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Post by freddo » November 8, 2010, 9:17 pm

when i say footy they know i mean league, unless im talking to a pom as when u say footy they think soccer, poms have their own way of thinking,

i cant believe that we might lose the ashes at home for the first time in like 20 years, and i think that will make ponting the first australian captain to lose the ashes 3 times
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Post by yeh raiders » November 8, 2010, 10:02 pm

Yeah Punters' the first captain to lose the Ashes twice im pretty sure.. :doubt:

But i'm pretty confident Australia will bring their A game this series and win it ! :cmon

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Post by Shadow Boxer » November 9, 2010, 7:10 am

freddo wrote:
Raiders Lime Milk wrote:
freddo wrote:Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
That's always been a bit of a bugbear of mine, too.
It really annoys me.

like its a very simple thing to say australian rules or aussie rules
I hate to be the one to break it to you boys but there is no such thing as Aussie rules, the official name of the sport is Australian Football
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Post by The Naked Zombie » November 9, 2010, 9:33 am

freddo wrote:Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
Well, the AFL themselves now refer to the sport as 'AFL', not 'Australian Rules', so it looks like you're wrong and they're right :D

Luckily, where I live, people don't talk about AFL, Aussie Rules or any of that Victorian crap. Gotta love the Central Coast!
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Post by GreenSoul » November 9, 2010, 10:03 am

The Naked Zombie wrote:
freddo wrote:Australian Rules

Australian Rules is the name of the sport.

AFL

Australian Football League is the name of the competion they play in.

When will people learn the difference.
Well, the AFL themselves now refer to the sport as 'AFL', not 'Australian Rules', so it looks like you're wrong and they're right :D

Luckily, where I live, people don't talk about AFL, Aussie Rules or any of that Victorian crap. Gotta love the Central Coast!
Same here. Gotta love Sydney!

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Post by Northern Raider » November 9, 2010, 1:50 pm

This has got to be thread of the year. :lol:
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Why do you have a Rorschach test picture as your avatar?
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Michael wrote:Why do you have a Rorschach test picture as your avatar?
Why? What do you see?
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Post by freddo » November 9, 2010, 11:23 pm

yeh raiders wrote:Yeah Punters' the first captain to lose the Ashes twice im pretty sure.. :doubt:

But i'm pretty confident Australia will bring their A game this series and win it ! :cmon
punter is the 1st australian captain to lose the ashes twice in england
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Post by Michael » November 10, 2010, 8:27 am

Northern Raider wrote:
Michael wrote:Why do you have a Rorschach test picture as your avatar?
Why? What do you see?

Uh...I don't see anything really. :doubt:
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Northern Raider wrote:
Michael wrote:Why do you have a Rorschach test picture as your avatar?
Why? What do you see?
I see a dog... :hmmm

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Northern Raider wrote: Short answer, No. If anybody doubts it being a sport they should make come down to track work and see just how much training and effort goes into the whole thing.

If course it is called the Sport of Kings and existed long before most other sports......including Playstation.
If training and effort were the criteria then just about everything is a sport. Being a chef, doing a uni degree etc.

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gangrenous wrote:
Northern Raider wrote: Short answer, No. If anybody doubts it being a sport they should make come down to track work and see just how much training and effort goes into the whole thing.

If course it is called the Sport of Kings and existed long before most other sports......including Playstation.
If training and effort were the criteria then just about everything is a sport. Being a chef, doing a uni degree etc.
I can't wait to tune into Foxsports 3 and watch world championship tiddlywinks

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Post by gangrenous » November 10, 2010, 3:17 pm

On the downside you'll have to listen to rants about how tiddlywinks was better in the old days... "man tiddlywinks was much better in my day before all this sponsorship and commercialism ruined the game. Old Eddy 'twinklefingers' Smith, you'll never see the likes of him again! And wrestling coaches, well haven't they just made the sport of tiddlywinks into a farce? Don't get me started on the bloody video ref..."

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Post by valiant_raider » November 10, 2010, 3:23 pm

it was a very sad day when Tiddlywinks went from a great amateur sport and turned Pro.

I tell ya though you'll never get a more heated and bitter feud than what happened back in 19 dickety 4 with Twinklefingers Smith and Golden Thumb Johnny Donald.
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Post by gangrenous » November 10, 2010, 3:34 pm

I'd forgotten all about Golden Thumb Johnny Donald! He never really recovered from that 19 dickety 4 incident did he? He just couldn't seem to get back into the mental side of the game. Bit like Shooter Shanesworth, he couldn't return to the top of his game after the wrist reconstruction even after it'd all healed properly.

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gangrenous wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
Michael wrote:Why do you have a Rorschach test picture as your avatar?
Why? What do you see?
I see a dog... :hmmm
I also saw a Dog in it. But, for fear of being the only one, kept it to myself.
That would be an interesting GH Thread though, post a series of Inkblot tests and see what people see :hmmm
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
gangrenous wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
Michael wrote:Why do you have a Rorschach test picture as your avatar?
Why? What do you see?
I see a dog... :hmmm
I also saw a Dog in it. But, for fear of being the only one, kept it to myself.
That would be an interesting GH Thread though, post a series of Inkblot tests and see what people see :hmmm
You mean like the V shape of the white forming the dog's snout with the eyes above it on both sides? I saw that, but only after looking at it for quite some time.
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Post by GreenSoul » November 10, 2010, 4:47 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
Michael wrote:Why do you have a Rorschach test picture as your avatar?
Why? What do you see?
I saw two African women kissing, each with doves flying above their heads in joy, but also with a 'thumbs down' representation in each of their minds, signifying the entrenched confusion suffered by lesbians all over the world as they battle with the purity of their love and the guilt foisted upon them by religion and society in general.

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GreenSoul wrote:I saw two African women kissing, each with doves flying above their heads in joy, but also with a 'thumbs down' representation in each of their minds, signifying the entrenched confusion suffered by lesbians all over the world as they battle with the purity of their love and the guilt foisted upon them by religion and society in general.
Oh yeah I see that now. A dog or that.

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Michael wrote:Why do you have a Rorschach test picture as your avatar?
Why? What do you see?
Squashed frog.
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » November 11, 2010, 1:50 pm

greeneyed wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:So where does cycling fit into the equation then?
Bicycles are completely powered by humans, plus there are standards for standard equipment. This makes it pure sport.
I think it was Stuart O'Grady who once said that he never had a chance to win the Tour De France because he raced for lower budget teams, who couldn't dedicate the time or money to develop the bikes the way the top teams could.

Assuming that is the case, and not just an excuse for why he wasn't competitive, then that rules out Cycling as a sport.

What about Single make car racing series? Like A1, Superleague Formula or NASCAR to a lesser extent. Cars that are all 100% Equal and driver skill being the only difference? V8 Supercars are also leaning this way with a standard Chasis, brakes and other standard parts.

I guess you could say it would be Human endeavour on a Racetrack, rather than on a field?
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Post by greeneyed » November 11, 2010, 6:43 pm

Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
greeneyed wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:So where does cycling fit into the equation then?
Bicycles are completely powered by humans, plus there are standards for standard equipment. This makes it pure sport.
I think it was Stuart O'Grady who once said that he never had a chance to win the Tour De France because he raced for lower budget teams, who couldn't dedicate the time or money to develop the bikes the way the top teams could.

Assuming that is the case, and not just an excuse for why he wasn't competitive, then that rules out Cycling as a sport.

What about Single make car racing series? Like A1, Superleague Formula or NASCAR to a lesser extent. Cars that are all 100% Equal and driver skill being the only difference? V8 Supercars are also leaning this way with a standard Chasis, brakes and other standard parts.

I guess you could say it would be Human endeavour on a Racetrack, rather than on a field?
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IMO, no motor racing is sport, as it is powered by engines, not humans.
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greeneyed wrote:
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
greeneyed wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:So where does cycling fit into the equation then?
Bicycles are completely powered by humans, plus there are standards for standard equipment. This makes it pure sport.
I think it was Stuart O'Grady who once said that he never had a chance to win the Tour De France because he raced for lower budget teams, who couldn't dedicate the time or money to develop the bikes the way the top teams could.

Assuming that is the case, and not just an excuse for why he wasn't competitive, then that rules out Cycling as a sport.

What about Single make car racing series? Like A1, Superleague Formula or NASCAR to a lesser extent. Cars that are all 100% Equal and driver skill being the only difference? V8 Supercars are also leaning this way with a standard Chasis, brakes and other standard parts.

I guess you could say it would be Human endeavour on a Racetrack, rather than on a field?
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IMO, no motor racing is sport, as it is powered by engines, not humans.
You still need skill to race them...

Brake 30 cm too early you stuff up your exit speed... 30cm too late and your in the wall

Its the same principal as timing the ball in cricket... too early and you toe end it, too late and it smashes you in the ribs

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