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[Matt]

Rosen trade gathering more legs. Giants are apparently interested in a trade, though most believe Haskins will be there at 6. Either way, its to sit behind Eli for a yr.

Giants are a perfect trade partner. I hadn't included them as I felt they were fixed on drafting Haskins. Rosen to Giants and Foles to Jags could even see Haskins drop out of the top 10.

TBH, I think they would be crazy to trade. But it would certainly make draft day interesting if Giants and Jagz were off the QB trail.

[Botman]

Interesting snippet from a post combine article while discussing Kyler Murray:

former Redskins and Texans GM Charley Casserly said of feedback he received about how Murray interviewed with teams in Indianapolis: “These were the worst comments I ever got on a top-rated quarterback and I’ve been doing this a long time. . . . Leadership — not good. Study habits — not good. The board work — below not good. Not good at all in any of those areas, raising major concerns about what this guy is going to do.”

None of those things scream no1 overall pick. Murray has unbelievable tools. Speed, agility, arm, accuracy, instincts etc but to make it at the next level you really need to nail the mental aspect. Will be able to apply himself to being a top NFL QB?

Look, Caserley is very plugged into the league, so i dont doubt he's heard this from somewhere... but where?
This is disinformation SZN.

He apparently ACED his Cards interview... i mean, spitballing, is this the Raiders trying to scare the Cards off so he gets to #4?
Who knows. This is the season where GM's, Agents and players become "anonymous sources"

[Botman]

For the Dolphins I don't see them picking up Bridgewater if they want Tua next year. Teddy is just as likely to give them 7-8 wins which will put them out of the contest. Easiest way to tank is go with a QB currently on their roster. They recently signed Jake Rudock so why use him? Luke Falk is also on the roster coming of a hand injury. Coaching staff like him so he's in the mix too. Add a low cost veteran QB like Josh McCown as a back up and mentor.

With Bridgewater I think you're killing your chances of the top 5 pick next year. If they did sign him then they should be looking to use their no13 pick this year on Drew Lock. Alternatively target Grier in the 2nd round.

I think that's a fair point, but maybe overselling Bridgewater. I dont think he's that good at all, but yeah the risk of him being good is larger. So point well made

[Botman]

Rosen would fit in nicely with the Giants and that offence. That would make a ton of sense.

[Matt]

DAMN!
A few of the DBs at the combine can really fly. A few went sub 4.4s. WOW!

[Matt]

Witten signed for 2 mill.
He will max out at 5 if he hits all his escalators.

[Northern Raider]

Reports that Skins may trade for Case Keenum. I imagine Broncos would be chasing a 4th round pick they gave up for Flacco. Might be a win win trade.

[Botman]

Nothing would please me more than to see the Skins trade for Case Keenum for a **** fourth, rather than give up a 3rd for Rosen
Do it, Deadskins.
Go down with that stinking Alex Smith/Case Keenum ship. Do it and be legends

[Botman]

Literally just broke
Keenum and a 7th to the Skins for a 6th

COME ON!

[the bone]

All the Broncos could get for Keenum was a trade up from 7th to 6th... LOL


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[Matt]

Literally just broke
Keenum and a 7th to the Skins for a 6th

COME ON!

[Northern Raider]

I guess Broncos got something from nothing there.

Net result is swapped Keenum for Flacco and 4th+7th round picks for a 6th round. Thats not going to excite the fans much.

[Botman]

LOL! PIT closing in on a trade for Antonio Browns

He's heading to the **** Bills. LOL.
Pit just sticking it **** too him

[Northern Raider]

Something about these top end WRs being so high maintenance. Steelers will be better off without him in the locker room. Conversely the Bills will be happy to pick up a good target for Josh Allen. Also means they won't be tempted to draft Metcalf, which would be wasting a top 10 pick IMO.

[Botman]

Hold the phone, blocker!

Rapsheet might have made himself a bit of a goat here. I was curious as to why Schefter was so quiet about this deal, and now he’s spoken
Said BUF and PIT have had talks but unlikely a deal gets done

[Northern Raider]

Went off early

[Botman]

Rapsheet going to take BIG TIME L on this one if the deal isnt done.

[Matt]

AB to Bills... ****?!?

[Botman]

AB to Bills... ****?!?

Doesn't look like it.
Looks like Rapsheet has jumped the gun and Schefter has now chimed in suggesting is unlikely.

[Matt]

Giants trade DE Vernon to Browns for OG Zietler.
Rapoport reported

[Botman]

Think that’s a good move for both parties.

[the bone]

Pigman's QB exercise inspired me to do the same... I haven't looked at his list since the other day so it'll be interesting to compare. Here's mine:

Format:
Team
2019
2020
Comment

Panthers
Newtown
Newtown
2015 MVP, franchise guy… may need a QB for 2019 depending outcome of Newton's shoulder surgery

Falcons
Ryan
Ryan
2016 MVP, franchise guy

Bucs
Winston
Winston
I think he'll show more consistency under Arians, convincing the Bucs to re-sign him

Saints
Brees
Rosen
I don't think Brees has long left… Saints trade for Rosen to replace Bridgewater and succeed Brees

Giants
Manning
Haskins
Draft Haskins and let him ride the pine for a year behind Manning

Cowboys
Prescott
Prescott
The Cowboys love Prescott… question is how much will they give him

Redskins
Keenum
Smith
They've got Keenum for a year, and too much guaranteed to Smith to cut him before 2020

Eagles
Wentz
Wentz
2017 MVP (almost)… franchise guy

Seahawks
Wilson
Wilson
Rumours his missus wants to go to LA/NYC, but I can’t see him leaving Seattle

Cardinals
Murray
Murray
If the rumours are true…

49ers
Garoppolo
Garoppolo
Jimmy G is set…

Rams
Goff
Goff
I could see the Rams trading Goff in 2020 if they thought the missing piece was a better QB… a la Roosters with Pearce/Cronk

Packers
Rodgers
Rodgers
Rodgers is a bad man

Vikings
Cousins
Cousins
Fully guaranteed!

Lions
Stafford
Stafford
Looked like he regressed in 2018, and perhaps a change would be good for both parties… but I've got him staying for now

Bears
Trubisky
Trubisky
2 more years on his rookie deal (plus 5th year option)

Patriots
Brady
Brady
Still got a few more years before 45

Jets
Darnold
Darnold
The "suck for Sam" campaign actually worked out for Gang Green

Bills
Allen
Allen
I watched 0 Bills games last year… but sounds like they are happy enough with Allen

Dolphins
Bridgewater
Tua
Per the rumours they are gunning for Tua… find a bridge in the aptly named Bridgewater

Jaguars
Foles
Foles
Seems like a formality that Foles will sign here

Texans
Watson
Watson
Franchise QB… get the man an O-line and he will be an MVP candidate in the coming years

Colts
Luck
Luck
Colts have a bucket load of cap space… Luck and the Colts should be MVP and Superbowl candidates respectively

Titans
Mariota
Mariota
I think Mariota could replace Andy Dalton as the prime meridan of QBs

Steelers
Roethlisberger
Carr
Big Ben considered retirement just last offseason, so I reckon he's almost done. They trade for Carr as a bridge to their next QB

Ravens
Jackson
Jackson
I'm not convinced about Jackson, but looks like the Ravens like him

Bengals
Dalton
Fromm
Prime Meridian has one more year before Zac Taylor get's his young QB to mold

Browns
Mayfield
Mayfield
Franchise QB… good chance of leading the Browns to division title in 2019

Chiefs
Mahomes
Mahomes
2018 MVP, franchise guy

Chargers
Rivers
Rivers
Rivers is still playing to a good standard… would love to see him get a ring

Broncos
Flacco
Lock
Hard to work out Elway's thinking… Lock is the most pro ready of this QB class, so could take over in 2nd half of 2019

Raiders
Carr
Herbert
Gruden and Carr seem like an unhappy marriage. Herbert gets to stay on the west coast

[Botman]

Titans
Mariota
Mariota
I think Mariota could replace Andy Dalton as the prime meridan of QBs

ATN baby! Haha yeah spot on.

But that was a good read, nothing there surprised me, that could all happen
I particularly like Rosen at the Saints, i think i said in my post i thought about that as a spot, it'd be a really good spot for him IMO.

Lock to Denver could absolutely be a thing, apparently Elway is in love with him. That pick is for Joooohn!
Fromm with the Bengals would be interesting too, i like that.

[Matt]

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The Antonio Brown saga is finally nearing a close. Sources say the #Steelers are dealing AB to the #Raiders in exchange for a third round pick and a fifth round pick in this 2019 draft. Brown will also get a reworked contract that makes him the NFL’s highest paid WR.

[Botman]

The real winner here... AB.

He bitched, carried on, created almighty drama... and he got moved to a team who increased his GTD money from exactly $0 to $30mil
And the steelers got pennies on the dollar for it.

Wild.

[the bone]

I can’t believe the Steelers only got a 3rd and 5th for Brown. I was expecting at least a late 1st or early 2nd


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[Northern Raider]

I can’t believe the Steelers only got a 3rd and 5th for Brown. I was expecting at least a late 1st or early 2nd


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Attitude deflated his trade value. Otherwise would have been a Day 1 pick for sure. His public bitching turned it into a Day 2 pick.

[Matt]

Jets getting Danold some protection

The Oakland Raiders agree to trade LG Kelechi Osemele to the New York Jets.

(via Kimberly Jones)

[Matt]

The Miami Dolphins have released WR Danny Amendola. (via Ian Rapoport)

[Botman]

I can’t believe the Steelers only got a 3rd and 5th for Brown. I was expecting at least a late 1st or early 2nd


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Attitude deflated his trade value. Otherwise would have been a Day 1 pick for sure. His public bitching turned it into a Day 2 pick.

Yep, AB really **** them, he made it impossible for them to get market value for him, they couldnt negotiate from a position of strength.
Sucks, but im a bit over the backlash about how badly AB treated the steelers... Never... EVER... forget these dudes dont have gtd contracts, they can and are cut anytime they arent living up to their price tag... **** even if they do live up to the price tag, the Ravens just cut Eric Weddle, pro bowler and maybe future HOFer, he was a vital to that D... but cap wise he had to go. So he's gone.

When that's happening, i cant hate on a player who has leverage, and using that leverage to parlay it into a more money.

Get the bag, AB. **** the steelers

[Botman]

Jets getting Danold some protection

The Oakland Raiders agree to trade LG Kelechi Osemele to the New York Jets.

(via Kimberly Jones)

Good trade. Osemele's a stud.
He's not who he was before but he's still damn good, and a dude dealing with a down year where he was dealing with injuries and Tom **** Cable is the sort of dude i'd take a punt on.

[Matt]

The Oakland Raiders will sign OL Trent Brown (Pats) to a 4-year, $66 million contract ($36,750,000 guaranteed).

(via Ian Rapoport)

[Botman]

ill wait for all today's madness to end before commenting, but my boy DeSean Jackson is coming home

[Matt]

ill wait for all today's madness to end before commenting, but my boy DeSean Jackson is coming home

[Matt]

BREAKING: Jacksonville Jaguars signing QB Nick Foles to a four-year, $88M deal. (via Ian Rapoport)

The obvious just happened