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Matt wrote: March 28, 2020, 8:55 am Cows will run, but it won't be the primary focus as it was in the past. I suspect we will keep you more than honest in that regard
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If Darius Slay is traded to the Eagles...

he’s done OUTSTANDING vs Amari Cooper.

Cooper vs PHI (5 gms, 44 targets):
• 4 TDs
• 11.1 YPA
• 98 yds/gm
• 64% catch rate

Cooper vs DET (2 gms, 12 targets):
• 0 TDs
• 3.5 YPA
• 21 yds/gm
• 33% catch rate
Obviously the eagles couldnt cover Cooper one iota since he arrived in Dallas, these numbers give me hope we're going to be able, maybe not take him away, but at least keep him from gutting us the way he has.

Cox, Hargrave and co will handle Zeke... so let's see if Dak, Blake Jarwin and Michael Gallop can beat us.
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Also:

https://www.phillyvoice.com/darius-slay ... -reported/

Turns out the Slay extension is far better than initial reporting. Howie did it again
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Matt wrote: March 28, 2020, 9:16 am Xavier Rhodes, CB, to Colts.
That's a good signing. He was an elite corner 2 years ago. I think if he can get himself back into shape, he could get back there too. Think he was too big last year, got himself up to 225lbs... strip back to 210-15, get some of that speed back... worth kicking the tyres on for sure. Was hoping the Eagles went that route
Matt wrote: March 28, 2020, 9:18 am We just signed Zeurline, yet have Forbath. WHY?!?
Z only missed fewer kicks than Maher last yr. He seems to beon a downhill slide
Kicking is such a mental game. No doubt the Leg Zuerlein has more leg talent than Maher and he's been super reliable most of his career. Be interesting to see how he bounces back
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the bone wrote: March 28, 2020, 10:42 am So you thought the Giants were below-average-to-bad? I raise you, one Carolina Panthers squad.

QB – Sad time in Carolina, as the Cam Newton era comes to end. As long as he goes to a team outside of the NFC South/NFC East, I will be rooting for him all the way. In his spot comes Teddy Bridgewater, who signed a three-year deal, which is more like a two-year deal, given the Panthers can cut him after the 2021 season with only $5M dead cap. Back-ups are XFL stand-out P.J. Walker, who led the Houston Roughnecks to a 5-0 record, while leading the league in passing yards and passing TDs. #3 on the depth chart is Will Grier, who looked bad last year; he’ll be lucky to still be on the roster in 12 months-time. I don’t think the Panthers will use their 7th overall pick on a QB; it appears they are trying to position themselves for the Trevor Lawrence/Justin Fields sweepstakes in next year’s draft.

RB – Christian McCaffery is entering year 4 of his rookie deal and the obvious lead back. Behind him are Reggie Bonnafon (undrafted, 2018), Jordan Scarlett (5th round, 2019), and former Seahawk Mike Davis. Not a huge need, but the Panthers could take a flier on a late round RB to upgrade the depth behind CMC.

WR – The Panthers are in a reasonable position here, with recent addition Robby Anderson, 2018 first rounder D.J. Moore, and 2017 second round pick Curtis Samuel the starters. Behind them are return specialists Pharoh Cooper and Brendan Zylstra. The Panthers could do with more depth here, so look for them to add a receiver in a later round.

TE – Probably the weakest of the offensive skill positions, following the departure of Greg Olsen, the TE group is led by Ian Thomas (4th round, 2018). Behind him are veterans Seth DeValve and Chris Manhertz. Look for GM Marty Hurney to find a TE in round 6 or 7.

OL – Current starters left-to-right are: Russel Okong, Tyler Larsen, Matt Paradis, John Miller, and Taylor Moton, with 2019 rookies Greg Little and Dennis Daley providing depth. Having traded 5-time pro bowl guard Trai Turner in exchange for Okung, the plan appears to be for 2019 second round pick Greg Little to sit behind Okung before taking over full time in 2021. After signing Matt Paradis as a free agent last year, the Panthers would’ve been disappointed by his output in 2019. Carolina can save just under $5M by cutting him next year, so spending a mid-to-late round pick on a centre is a strong possibility. The right tackle spot is set with Taylor Moton (2017 second rounder), free agent signing John Miller will be right guard, while Dennis Daley will battle veteran Tyler Larsen for starting honors at left guard. After trading up last year to grab Greg Little, I don’t think the Panthers use their #7 overall pick on an OT, but it would certainly be prudent to investment more in the OL on draft day.

DT – After losing Dontari Poe, Gerald McCoy, and Vernon Butler in free agency, this room is near empty, with only Kawaan Short holding the fort. That’s probably why you’ll see a lot of mock drafts with Auburn DT Derrick Brown going to Carolina at #7 overall. Personally, I don’t think DTs are worth top 10 picks unless you’re getting someone the caliber of Aaron Donald, so I’m hoping the Panthers go in another direction.

Edge – This group is lead by 2019 first round pick Bryan Burns. Supporting him are former international pathway player Efe Obada, free agency signing Stephen Weatherly (Vikings), 2018 fourth round pick Marquis Haynes, and 2019 fourth rounder Christian Miller. Clearly, with the losses of Mario Addison and Bruce Irvin, this position needs an upgrade. Look for the Panthers to go edge on day 2.

Linebackers – Following Luke Kuechly’s retirement, recently re-signed Shaq Thompson becomes the lead man here. At this point Thompson will be starting alongside former Lion and Raider Tahir Whitehead, with two 2018 draft picks providing depth - Andre Smith (7th round) and Jermaine Carter (5th round). This is another group that could do with a significant upgrade, which brings Clemson LB Isaiah Simmons into play at #7 overall.

Cornerbacks – If you haven’t realized already, you surely will now – this defense is trash! Following the departure of James Bradberry to the Giants, 2018 second rounder Donte Jackson is really the only recognizable name, unless you’ve heard of Corn Elder, Dominique Hatfield or Natrell Jamerson (kudus to you if so). Clearly, SIGNIFICANT upgrades needed here. Unfortunately Ohio State CB Jeff Okudah will likely be off the board by the time Carolina is on the clock, and it doesn’t seem like any other CBs are worthy of a top 10 pick, so look for the Panthers to grab a CB in the second round.

Safety – The safety group is led by recently re-signed Tre Boston and T.J. Green, a former 2nd round pick by the Colts in 2016. Also from the class of 2016, free agent signing Justin Borris (4th round, Jets) provides depth. Another weak position group that needs resources allocated in the draft.

Summary – Boy, going over that defense was brutal. I knew it was bad, but wow. Similar to the Giants, the Panthers are mostly set at the offensive skills positions, while the OL could do with an upgrade. This defense, left unattended, could single handedly deliver the Panthers their first #1 overall pick since 2011, when they selected Cam Newton. So, given the plight of the Panthers D, I think they have no choice but to use the # 7 overall pick on the highest rated defender still on their board. If available, I think it would be Okudah, but it’s more likely to be either Simmons on Brown. Then they need to load up on other areas of D in rounds 2, 3, 4 and 5, and hope they can find some gems in the later rounds to add depth at OL, WR and TE. This front office has a lot of work to do.
With that D, tanking shouldn't be hard. WOW
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Botman wrote: March 28, 2020, 7:16 pm
Matt wrote: March 28, 2020, 8:55 am Cows will run, but it won't be the primary focus as it was in the past. I suspect we will keep you more than honest in that regard
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If Darius Slay is traded to the Eagles...

he’s done OUTSTANDING vs Amari Cooper.

Cooper vs PHI (5 gms, 44 targets):
• 4 TDs
• 11.1 YPA
• 98 yds/gm
• 64% catch rate

Cooper vs DET (2 gms, 12 targets):
• 0 TDs
• 3.5 YPA
• 21 yds/gm
• 33% catch rate
Obviously the eagles couldnt cover Cooper one iota since he arrived in Dallas, these numbers give me hope we're going to be able, maybe not take him away, but at least keep him from gutting us the way he has.

Cox, Hargrave and co will handle Zeke... so let's see if Dak, Blake Jarwin and Michael Gallop can beat us.
Yup. U blokes stay healthy, and these 2 games are for the Div
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Botman wrote: March 28, 2020, 7:21 pm
Matt wrote: March 28, 2020, 9:16 am Xavier Rhodes, CB, to Colts.
That's a good signing. He was an elite corner 2 years ago. I think if he can get himself back into shape, he could get back there too. Think he was too big last year, got himself up to 225lbs... strip back to 210-15, get some of that speed back... worth kicking the tyres on for sure. Was hoping the Eagles went that route
Matt wrote: March 28, 2020, 9:18 am We just signed Zeurline, yet have Forbath. WHY?!?
Z only missed fewer kicks than Maher last yr. He seems to beon a downhill slide
Kicking is such a mental game. No doubt the Leg Zuerlein has more leg talent than Maher and he's been super reliable most of his career. Be interesting to see how he bounces back
I guess it's a case of taking the punt on him being elite again, and 2019 was just a Barry Crocker. With Forbath a steady option if it fails.
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We just signed Aldon Smith. Can I assume he is a hybrid LB/DE? Otherwise i have no clue why we signed him.

EDIT: Oh good... another unregistered player, and from a hit and run incident. FANTASTIC! 4yrs out of the league... that's taking a flyer on someone.
Between him and Gregory, that right DE is a volitile position.
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It's not like the Cowboys to sign absolute **** bag human beings.

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gergreg wrote: April 2, 2020, 12:40 pm It's not like the Cowboys to sign absolute **** bag human beings.

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It's been a LOOONG time since Aldon Smith was a productive player in this league... but for a minute there he was one of the most disruptive pass rushers in the league

Dont know that a 30 year old pass rusher, off a 4 year hiatus from the game is worth a 4m contract, but we'll see.
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Botman wrote: April 2, 2020, 7:15 pm It's been a LOOONG time since Aldon Smith was a productive player in this league... but for a minute there he was one of the most disruptive pass rushers in the league

Dont know that a 30 year old pass rusher, off a 4 year hiatus from the game is worth a 4m contract, but we'll see.
I think they are going to pair him with Gregory and hope that between them they can be a single productive player.

Smith had 19.5 sacks in 2012 for the 9ers.
Quinn had 11.5 sacks last season.

So, 4 yrs out of the game, he only needs to be half as good, to repeat that.
TBH, Id take a third, so 6-8, and its a good yr.

Gregory got 6 in 25 games in 2018.
Again, ill take half to a third, 2-3.

So 8-11 total between the 2, and you have replaced Quinn on the 'cheap'.
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I think he'll be lucky to survive TC and if he makes the roster, i think he'd be a situational pass rusher at best.
4 years is a LONG time out of the game
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Botman wrote: April 3, 2020, 12:01 pm I think he'll be lucky to survive TC and if he makes the roster, i think he'd be a situational pass rusher at best.
4 years is a LONG time out of the game
It is. The guaranteed money is nothing, so its all about buying potential upside.
As I said, if he can be somewhere near a third of the guy he was 4yrs ago, then he can still be productive.
Anything better is a bonus.

Same with Gregory really.
He has a few more games in recent times, with a full yr in '18, but both have basically been out of the league the same time.
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Its curious to me that Dallas have brought in Poe and McCoy, an interior DL from the panthers which gave up approximately ALL the ground yards.
Not like the Panthers lacked for LB's either and it didnt help them. Curious to see how that goes for them
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Botman wrote: April 3, 2020, 12:12 pm Its curious to me that Dallas have brought in Poe and McCoy, an interior DL from the panthers which gave up approximately ALL the ground yards.
Not like the Panthers lacked for LB's either and it didnt help them. Curious to see how that goes for them
3 Cows beat writers have said the same thing.
On paper it looks great.
Last yrs stats rebut that.

I think the theory is sound, BUT.... :?

Im hoping its a case of, 'surely they cant be that bad, not again'.
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Botman wrote: April 3, 2020, 12:12 pm Its curious to me that Dallas have brought in Poe and McCoy, an interior DL from the panthers which gave up approximately ALL the ground yards.
Not like the Panthers lacked for LB's either and it didnt help them. Curious to see how that goes for them
Very strange indeed. Panthers run D was horrific last year. Not sure they are the guys the Cowboys needed to improve
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Two round mock:

# Team Pick Pos.
1 Bengals Joe Burrow QB
2 Redskins Chase Young DE
3 Lions Jeff Okudah CB
4 Giants Tristan Wirfs OT
5 Dolphins Tua Tagovailoa QB
6 Chargers Justin Herbert QB
7 Panthers Isaiah Simmons LB
8 Cardinals Jedrick Wills Jr. OT
9 Jaguars Derrick Brown DT
10 Browns Mekhi Becton OT
11 Jets Andrew Thomas OT
12 Raiders Jerry Jeudy WR
13 49ers CeeDee Lamb WR
14 Buccs Javon Kinlaw DT
15 Broncos Henry Ruggs III WR
16 Falcons CJ Henderson CB
17 Cowboys K'Lavon Chaisson DE
18 Dolphins Josh Jones OT
19 Raiders Patrick Queen LB
20 Jaguars Jeff Gladney CB
21 Eagles Justin Jefferson WR
22 Vikings Tee Higgins WR
23 Patriots Kenneth Murray LB
24 Saints Xavier McKinney S
25 Vikings Austin Jackson OT
26 Dolphins D'Andre Swift RB
27 Seahawks A.J. Epenesa DE
28 Ravens Marlon Davidson DT
29 Titans Yetur Gross-Matos DE
30 Packers Cole Kmet TE
31 49ers Jaylon Johnson CB
32 Chiefs A.J. Terrell CB
33 Bengals Zack Baun LB
34 Colts Jordan Love QB
35 Lions Ross Blacklock DT
36 Giants Terrell Lewis DE
37 Chargers Ezra Cleveland OT
38 Panthers Trevon Diggs CB
39 Dolphins Jeremy Chin S
40 Texans Denzel Mims WR
41 Browns Antoine Winfield Jr S
42 Jaguars Julian Okwara DE
43 Bears Kristian Fulton CB
44 Colts Chase Claypool WR
45 Buccs Grant Delpit S
46 Broncos Cesar Ruiz C
47 Falcons Clyde Edwards-Helaire RB
48 Jets Josh Uche DE
49 Steelers Jacob Eason QB
50 Bears Lucas Niang OT
51 Cowboys Noah Igbinoghene CB
52 Rams Jonathan Taylor RB
53 Eagles Cameron Dantzler CB
54 Bills Bradlee Anae DE
55 Ravens KJ Hamler WR
56 Dolphins Jalen Reagor WR
57 Texans Jordan Elliot DT
58 Vikings Bryce Hall CB
59 Seahawks Raekwon Davis DT
60 Ravens Curtis Weaver DE
61 Titans Justin Madubuike DT
62 Packers Brandon Aiyuk WR
63 Chiefs J.K. Dobbins RB
64 Seahawks Isaiah Wilson OT
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Ill take Chaisson and Igbinoghene. I support those picks @the Bone
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Chaisson should be available at 17 so if you want a pass rushing end he's a good choice. Fairly light draft for that position though. Any other years he probably slips into 2nd round.

The inevitable trades will shake things up a bit at the top end of this draft. Going to be some real quality fall down the top 10 and a few teams willing to jump up and grab them. Simmons is possible for this. Guy is a freak but a lack of need in the top half dozen will see him go lower than he should.
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Northern Raider wrote: April 6, 2020, 5:56 pm Chaisson should be available at 17 so if you want a pass rushing end he's a good choice. Fairly light draft for that position though. Any other years he probably slips into 2nd round.

The inevitable trades will shake things up a bit at the top end of this draft. Going to be some real quality fall down the top 10 and a few teams willing to jump up and grab them. Simmons is possible for this. Guy is a freak but a lack of need in the top half dozen will see him go lower than he should.
TBH, I don't see him falling past 5, but if he hits 10, there will be teams throwing the kitchen sink to trade up.

I have 5 players I like at 17, in no order, Kinlaw, CJ Henderson, Diggs, McKinney and Chaisson.
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Matt wrote: April 6, 2020, 8:05 pm
Northern Raider wrote: April 6, 2020, 5:56 pm Chaisson should be available at 17 so if you want a pass rushing end he's a good choice. Fairly light draft for that position though. Any other years he probably slips into 2nd round.

The inevitable trades will shake things up a bit at the top end of this draft. Going to be some real quality fall down the top 10 and a few teams willing to jump up and grab them. Simmons is possible for this. Guy is a freak but a lack of need in the top half dozen will see him go lower than he should.
TBH, I don't see him falling past 5, but if he hits 10, there will be teams throwing the kitchen sink to trade up.

I have 5 players I like at 17, in no order, Kinlaw, CJ Henderson, Diggs, McKinney and Chaisson.
Unless the Giants take him at 4 then Simmons will very likely drop down order.

Some weird **** can happen on draft day that nobody predicts. I'm focussed on the QB talk and what Dolphins will do. I've heard so many scenarios in the mocks but one I've not heard is actually feasible. That's Chase Young to Dolphins at no5. Here's how it could pan out:
1. Bengals take Burrow as predicted
2. Redskins take Tua....because Redskins. Quite a few punters have suggested it.
3. Lions take Okudah, which is a no brainer
4. Chargers trade up and take Herbert knowing he'll go to Miami of they don't.
5. Phins can't justify taking Love this high the best prospect in the entire draft is still on the board staring back at them. Edge is a genuine need , though their biggest. Would be hard to pass up on Chase Young in this situation.
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Northern Raider wrote: April 6, 2020, 8:20 pm
Matt wrote: April 6, 2020, 8:05 pm
Northern Raider wrote: April 6, 2020, 5:56 pm Chaisson should be available at 17 so if you want a pass rushing end he's a good choice. Fairly light draft for that position though. Any other years he probably slips into 2nd round.

The inevitable trades will shake things up a bit at the top end of this draft. Going to be some real quality fall down the top 10 and a few teams willing to jump up and grab them. Simmons is possible for this. Guy is a freak but a lack of need in the top half dozen will see him go lower than he should.
TBH, I don't see him falling past 5, but if he hits 10, there will be teams throwing the kitchen sink to trade up.

I have 5 players I like at 17, in no order, Kinlaw, CJ Henderson, Diggs, McKinney and Chaisson.
Unless the Giants take him at 4 then Simmons will very likely drop down order.

Some weird **** can happen on draft day that nobody predicts. I'm focussed on the QB talk and what Dolphins will do. I've heard so many scenarios in the mocks but one I've not heard is actually feasible. That's Chase Young to Dolphins at no5. Here's how it could pan out:
1. Bengals take Burrow as predicted
2. Redskins take Tua....because Redskins. Quite a few punters have suggested it.
3. Lions take Okudah, which is a no brainer
4. Chargers trade up and take Herbert knowing he'll go to Miami of they don't.
5. Phins can't justify taking Love this high the best prospect in the entire draft is still on the board staring back at them. Edge is a genuine need , though their biggest. Would be hard to pass up on Chase Young in this situation.
Its possible.

I've seen drafts where Lions take Simmons too.

Meaning Okudah falls to Arizona or someone.
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Lions could justify Simmons but not at the expense of missing Okudah. Corner is a bigger need and he's the only truly elite prospect this year.
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Northern Raider wrote: April 6, 2020, 8:27 pm Lions could justify Simmons but not at the expense of missing Okudah. Corner is a bigger need and he's the only truly elite prospect this year.
They could pick either, and its a damn good pick. They are 100% studs. You're right though, Okudah is worth more in the current passing league NFL
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I think there is a pretty solid chance Chaisson goes a little earlier than being mocked right now
This is a 20 year kid... he's just scratching the surface. This is a really good draft and some dudes are going to slide but if i had to bet right now, i dont think Chaisson gets to dem boys
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ill do my v1 mock soonish
But this is shaping up to be one of the most interesting drafts in some time.
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Botman wrote: April 6, 2020, 9:01 pm ill do my v1 mock soonish
But this is shaping up to be one of the most interesting drafts in some time.
I see a trade fest, which will make it crazy, and therefore completely un-mockable

It's also why I've decided to like 5 options this yr, coz surely we get 1of them.
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Chaisson is a raw talent, high ceiling guy with injury history. Very hard to predict where he lands.
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Just looking at the draft now... man its actually tough to see where Chaisson goes before the boys...
If the tackles go early, the Jets or Bucs are good landing spots, the Falcons absolutely could take him, that would be my bet

The more i look at this the more convinced i am there is ZERO chance the Eagles get Ruggs/Juedy/Lamb... they're all going top 15 i think
Eagles might have to trade up, or be OK with settling for a Justin Jefferson
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Botman wrote: April 7, 2020, 8:27 am Just looking at the draft now... man its actually tough to see where Chaisson goes before the boys...
If the tackles go early, the Jets or Bucs are good landing spots, the Falcons absolutely could take him, that would be my bet

The more i look at this the more convinced i am there is ZERO chance the Eagles get Ruggs/Juedy/Lamb... they're all going top 15 i think
Eagles might have to trade up, or be OK with settling for a Justin Jefferson
He is the best slot guy out there, but with 2 TEs you really need an outside receiver
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Botman wrote: April 7, 2020, 8:27 am Just looking at the draft now... man its actually tough to see where Chaisson goes before the boys...
If the tackles go early, the Jets or Bucs are good landing spots, the Falcons absolutely could take him, that would be my bet

The more i look at this the more convinced i am there is ZERO chance the Eagles get Ruggs/Juedy/Lamb... they're all going top 15 i think
Eagles might have to trade up, or be OK with settling for a Justin Jefferson
They will if one goes early. Out of the 3 I'd say Ruggs is the biggest chance of falling only because the other 2 are more complete packages. Jefferson or Higgins is hardly a booby prize though.
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Looking at the NFL media mock drafts online...
1. A few have been gutsy enough to predict trades (MJD, Reuter, Zielein), and while I can see that happening. The top 10 is all over the pace. However, it makes for a little fun. (Reuter has Simmons at 11 to Falcons via Jets)

2. Cynthia Frelund, again, an interesting set of picks, BUT, she has said Bengals take Young at 1, Burrow at 4 to Phins. I find her good value, but this seems crazy to me.

All these drafts have Jeudy, Lamb and Ruggs in the top 15. Most have them in a run between 10 and 15. Ruggs being popular for the Bronx. 9ers to get the 2nd of Jeudy/ Lamb. I have to say, I agree with this. I dont see them falling.

For 'Boys, its pretty strong on Henderson vs Chassion

Eagles, Cynthia thinks you can get Ruggs, so she is rooting for you, most say Jefferson, with a Higgins and a MJD thinks Kenneth Murray LB.
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CBS are doing a mock draft ATM. They just had the Eagles trading up, via the 9ers to #13 to grab Lamb. Giving up 21, 103 and 145 - so a 1 and 2 3s?
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Matt wrote: April 7, 2020, 9:25 am Looking at the NFL media mock drafts online...
1. A few have been gutsy enough to predict trades (MJD, Reuter, Zielein), and while I can see that happening. The top 10 is all over the pace. However, it makes for a little fun. (Reuter has Simmons at 11 to Falcons via Jets)

2. Cynthia Frelund, again, an interesting set of picks, BUT, she has said Bengals take Young at 1, Burrow at 4 to Phins. I find her good value, but this seems crazy to me.

All these drafts have Jeudy, Lamb and Ruggs in the top 15. Most have them in a run between 10 and 15. Ruggs being popular for the Bronx. 9ers to get the 2nd of Jeudy/ Lamb. I have to say, I agree with this. I dont see them falling.

For 'Boys, its pretty strong on Henderson vs Chassion

Eagles, Cynthia thinks you can get Ruggs, so she is rooting for you, most say Jefferson, with a Higgins and a MJD thinks Kenneth Murray LB.
With mock drafts they are are mostly wrong and occaisionally right. Those that try to predict trades would be close to 100% wrong. You would be hard pressed to find anybody who got one right, especially several weeks out.

I like Frelund's mock simply because it throws in a big "what if" scenario that nobody else is bother with. Everbody has locked in Burrow to Bengals simply because it makes most sense. Nobody has considered that Bengals might rate Chase Young as more certain commodity with pro-bowl calibre talent. If that did happen it potentially reshapes the whole top 10.
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Northern Raider wrote: April 7, 2020, 12:14 pm
Matt wrote: April 7, 2020, 9:25 am Looking at the NFL media mock drafts online...
1. A few have been gutsy enough to predict trades (MJD, Reuter, Zielein), and while I can see that happening. The top 10 is all over the pace. However, it makes for a little fun. (Reuter has Simmons at 11 to Falcons via Jets)

2. Cynthia Frelund, again, an interesting set of picks, BUT, she has said Bengals take Young at 1, Burrow at 4 to Phins. I find her good value, but this seems crazy to me.

All these drafts have Jeudy, Lamb and Ruggs in the top 15. Most have them in a run between 10 and 15. Ruggs being popular for the Bronx. 9ers to get the 2nd of Jeudy/ Lamb. I have to say, I agree with this. I dont see them falling.

For 'Boys, its pretty strong on Henderson vs Chassion

Eagles, Cynthia thinks you can get Ruggs, so she is rooting for you, most say Jefferson, with a Higgins and a MJD thinks Kenneth Murray LB.
With mock drafts they are are mostly wrong and occaisionally right. Those that try to predict trades would be close to 100% wrong. You would be hard pressed to find anybody who got one right, especially several weeks out.

I like Frelund's mock simply because it throws in a big "what if" scenario that nobody else is bother with. Everbody has locked in Burrow to Bengals simply because it makes most sense. Nobody has considered that Bengals might rate Chase Young as more certain commodity with pro-bowl calibre talent. If that did happen it potentially reshapes the whole top 10.
I love it as a 'what if', but TBH I dont see it happening. They cant go with Dalton and Co again.
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