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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Northern Raider » August 5, 2019, 3:47 pm

julian87 wrote:
August 5, 2019, 2:40 pm
I honestly have Bancroft about fifth in line for who I’d pick.

Burns
Harris
Renshaw
Khawaja with Patterson

Are all better options imo.

Once again I hope he proves me wrong though.
Agree...and I'd even throw in SMarsh as a better option at opener. Bancroft has some inherent flaws in his technique, primarily front foot placement and head position, which will be difficult to overcome at test level. They were apparent before his suspension and watching this test its obvious he hasn't rectified them.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Matt » August 5, 2019, 4:21 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
August 5, 2019, 3:41 pm
Matt wrote:
August 5, 2019, 3:11 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
August 5, 2019, 2:37 pm
Matt wrote:
August 5, 2019, 1:51 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
August 5, 2019, 1:44 pm

Bancroft won't get dropped. Wade is the batsman most at risk.
Unless he goes on a duck hunt, you can lock Wade in for this series after a 100. After that... who knows?!?

As for Bancroft, he gets at least 2 games.
Since when did scoring a ton secure your spot in the team?
Thats why I added 'for the series... after that who knows?!?' :D
Doesn't even secure your spot for the next test does it?
I know you are bitter about Patterson and Burns, but the series and country changed, not just the Test. I bet if there was a 3rd Test, both those guys play against SL.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Northern Raider » August 5, 2019, 4:23 pm

Matt wrote:
August 5, 2019, 4:21 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
August 5, 2019, 3:41 pm
Matt wrote:
August 5, 2019, 3:11 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
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Matt wrote:
August 5, 2019, 1:51 pm


Unless he goes on a duck hunt, you can lock Wade in for this series after a 100. After that... who knows?!?

As for Bancroft, he gets at least 2 games.
Since when did scoring a ton secure your spot in the team?
Thats why I added 'for the series... after that who knows?!?' :D
Doesn't even secure your spot for the next test does it?
I know you are bitter about Patterson and Burns, but the series and country changed, not just the Test. I bet if there was a 3rd Test, both those guys play against SL.
OK, so we reset the team after every series.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Matt » August 5, 2019, 4:38 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
August 5, 2019, 4:23 pm
Matt wrote:
August 5, 2019, 4:21 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
August 5, 2019, 3:41 pm
Matt wrote:
August 5, 2019, 3:11 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
August 5, 2019, 2:37 pm

Since when did scoring a ton secure your spot in the team?
Thats why I added 'for the series... after that who knows?!?' :D
Doesn't even secure your spot for the next test does it?
I know you are bitter about Patterson and Burns, but the series and country changed, not just the Test. I bet if there was a 3rd Test, both those guys play against SL.
OK, so we reset the team after every series.
According to CA you can, yes.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by RedRaider » August 5, 2019, 5:29 pm

I'm all for next gen players applying pressure to incumbents through exceptional consistent performance. I just don't see Bancroft's test record or First Class record as evidence of that. Imo he is a handy Shield player and nothing more in the long form game. Burns Test average is about 10 per innings better than Bancroft. To quote Geoff Toovey 'There has to be an investigation'.

While they are investigating that clanger - do a simultaneous report on Starc vs Siddle. Starc has better averages both bowling and batting. The aim of Test Cricket should be to win. The CA selection policy doesn't appear to be in line with that goal.

I can only hope that later this evening the 'real' new ball bowlers will get the opportunity to do what they do best from the start of Day 5.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by julian87 » August 5, 2019, 5:42 pm

RedRaider wrote:
August 5, 2019, 1:45 pm
I watched the match until stumps this morning. We get a lead of 398 and have 7 overs to bowl. Who do we give the new ball too? Peter bloody Riddle and GOAT?? Why not our best 2 new ball bowlers?? A joke.

Matt, Bancroft is not good enough to be an Australian opening batsman. He can only be there to fill some WA quota. Imo Burns should be opening. Bancroft to go back to sanding surf boards.
Siddle was a ridiculous call but Lyon is our best bowler given the conditions imo.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by raiderskater » August 5, 2019, 8:13 pm

YESSSSSSSS. Good start.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by raiderskater » August 5, 2019, 8:44 pm

Haha, I think someone broke the stump mic. The batsmen complaining about a buzzing noise coming from it, and when the fieldsmen came close they could clearly hear it too.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by julian87 » August 5, 2019, 9:22 pm

That was an example of a tried and tested specialist bowler outdoing a part time batsman.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by raiderskater » August 5, 2019, 9:36 pm

Oh fabulous. Nice ball, nice catch, and England lose a review.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by yeh raiders » August 5, 2019, 9:37 pm

I’ve played cricket in every form for the last 25 years. I have never once been unsure if I had hit a ball or not.

Basically reviewed in hope that the computer doesn’t pick it up. I call that cheating.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by raiderskater » August 5, 2019, 9:47 pm

If it had been a feather-nick, the faintest movement on the snicko I could sort of get it.

But he genuinely hit that properly.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by raiderskater » August 5, 2019, 9:49 pm

Ah, that's BULLDUST.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by yeh raiders » August 5, 2019, 9:51 pm

This umpire needs to be hooked.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by raiderskater » August 5, 2019, 9:52 pm

Oh, WOW! Bancroft with an outstanding short-leg catch!
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by yeh raiders » August 5, 2019, 9:52 pm

Ahhh God love Lyon.

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The Cricket Thread

Post by I'm Bate Man » August 5, 2019, 9:57 pm

yeh raiders wrote:Ahhh God love Lyon.
The GOAT! Paine knew what he was doing all along batting first. No team in the planet can handle Gary on day 5 of a cracking pitch!
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by raiderskater » August 5, 2019, 10:03 pm

Outstanding first session. Keep that up and we've got this.

Off to bed, I hope to wake to the stories of our victory.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Matt » August 5, 2019, 10:06 pm

Very good bowling in that session. Lyon doing his thing.
Great catch Bancroft

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by greeneyed » August 5, 2019, 10:49 pm

I have to say... if Australia win after how the Test started... it will be hilarious!
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by julian87 » August 5, 2019, 10:55 pm

yeh raiders wrote:
August 5, 2019, 9:37 pm
I’ve played cricket in every form for the last 25 years. I have never once been unsure if I had hit a ball or not.

Basically reviewed in hope that the computer doesn’t pick it up. I call that cheating.
I’m not in the same boat. On a few occasions I’ve been unsure if I’ve nicked a ball or not. Does happen but that one was bad.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by -TW- » August 5, 2019, 11:05 pm

Another garbage review by Bairstow

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Post by I'm Bate Man » August 5, 2019, 11:05 pm

Here comes the GOAT.
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I'm Bate Man wrote:Here comes the GOAT.
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Post by greeneyed » August 5, 2019, 11:07 pm

Nathan Lyon!
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Post by greeneyed » August 5, 2019, 11:11 pm

Nathan Lyon... he’s having a ball!
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by julian87 » August 5, 2019, 11:52 pm

Don’t think I’ve seen a bunny like Ali for Lyon since Cullinan and Warne.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.

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Post by yeh raiders » August 5, 2019, 11:54 pm

This is magnificent. Here comes Jimmy Jimmy

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by -TW- » August 6, 2019, 12:14 am

That's a pumping, especially from 8/122 in the first innings

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Post by I'm Bate Man » August 6, 2019, 12:15 am

Poetic that Smith took the final catch!

Amazing fight back from the Aust team.
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Post by Matt » August 6, 2019, 12:19 am

And the folded like a cheap suit

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Post by yeh raiders » August 6, 2019, 12:19 am

-TW- wrote:
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That's a pumping, especially from 8/122 in the first innings

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Outstanding.

Steve Smith sublime. Can’t fault the effort of any of the bowlers, they all had a real crack.

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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by RedRaider » August 6, 2019, 2:26 am

GOAT gets a 6 for and Cummins a 4 for. Game over. They also took 3 each in England's first innings. 16 wickets between the two New South Welshmen. The selectors left out two more New South Welshmen in Starc and Hazelwood. I would expect at least one of them to play at Lords. Smith with a century in each innings a deserved MOTM. Now on to Lords where Smith scored a double ton (in a single innings) in 2015.

There is a tour match prior to the Lords Test. I expect the players who will open the batting to put pressure on the selectors. While Bancroft took a fine catch at short forward square leg, he failed twice with the bat and really has no history of being a quality Test opener. Only the selectors could explain why the better credentialed Joe Burns is not in this squad.

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Post by raiderskater » August 6, 2019, 9:00 am

Well, seems I could have stayed up after all - looks like it was all done not that long after midnight! I wasn't expecting them to collapse quite so easily!

There's a few cracks going around social media that we "won" as well - we scored more boundaries than England, too.
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Re: The Cricket Thread

Post by Northern Raider » August 6, 2019, 9:21 am

RedRaider wrote:
August 6, 2019, 2:26 am
GOAT gets a 6 for and Cummins a 4 for. Game over. They also took 3 each in England's first innings. 16 wickets between the two New South Welshmen. The selectors left out two more New South Welshmen in Starc and Hazelwood. I would expect at least one of them to play at Lords. Smith with a century in each innings a deserved MOTM. Now on to Lords where Smith scored a double ton (in a single innings) in 2015.

There is a tour match prior to the Lords Test. I expect the players who will open the batting to put pressure on the selectors. While Bancroft took a fine catch at short forward square leg, he failed twice with the bat and really has no history of being a quality Test opener. Only the selectors could explain why the better credentialed Joe Burns is not in this squad.
I doubt they will change a winning team which could mean a reprieve for Bancroft. There are several better options though.

If Starc was carrying a niggle and is right to go then he might come in for Siddle or Pattinson. We all know CA loves "rotation" with their quicks. Keep them in cotton wool as much as possible. Although that's probably a big reason why they get injured so often. Too much gym work and not enough bowling.
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