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I've never rated Burns that highly, but agree they both have shown more than Bancroft.
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Northern Raider wrote: December 15, 2020, 12:50 pm
Azza wrote: December 15, 2020, 12:46 pm
Northern Raider wrote: December 15, 2020, 12:12 pm
Azza wrote: December 15, 2020, 10:41 am Same with PSP Handscomb too - fell off the radar. Sad.
Kurtis Patterson. Scored a century in his last test. Not been seen since.
Oh yeah - he looked good too.
Patterson and Burns both scored centuries in that test then were inexplicably left out of the Ashes squad to accommodate the return of Bancroft.
Burns was sick, and not sure if he made that Aus A side in Sth Africa? instead. But he had the mystery illness and CA were worried about his fitness as a guy in the squad.
But Patterson was left out.
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Matt wrote: December 15, 2020, 1:10 pm
Northern Raider wrote: December 15, 2020, 12:50 pm
Azza wrote: December 15, 2020, 12:46 pm
Northern Raider wrote: December 15, 2020, 12:12 pm
Azza wrote: December 15, 2020, 10:41 am Same with PSP Handscomb too - fell off the radar. Sad.
Kurtis Patterson. Scored a century in his last test. Not been seen since.
Oh yeah - he looked good too.
Patterson and Burns both scored centuries in that test then were inexplicably left out of the Ashes squad to accommodate the return of Bancroft.
Burns was sick, and not sure if he made that Aus A side in Sth Africa? instead. But he had the mystery illness and CA were worried about his fitness as a guy in the squad.
But Patterson was left out.
Burns went to UK at the time with the Australia A team so no real excuse there. Patterson left out completely. There was no real justification to include Bancroft ahead of either. What's done is done though.
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Brad Haddin saying, if Warner was fit, Burns would be in big trouble. Without Warner, he thinks he is safe. OOPH!
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If Burns scores more than 40 runs in the test I'll eat my hat.
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Ha..if Burns slaps a double tonne Mr Falzon is dropped.
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Langer talking up Wade as an opener on TV this morning.
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Burns is in.
What does 1 have to do to get dropped??? He is in horrendous form.
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Matt wrote: December 16, 2020, 3:47 pm Burns is in.
What does 1 have to do to get dropped??? He is in horrendous form.
Have someone better to replace them. Harris is not that person.
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Yeah there's hardly anyone knocking down the door is there, but I still would have replaced Burns with a more experienced hand e.g. Khawaja for the one test Warner is out.
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Makes sense to give Burns the go. His Test results have been just short of the mark but not terrible and he's incumbent. Given the opener injury situation makes sense he gets one shot at it- if he fails then it's easy to drop him for Pucjovski next Test.
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BadnMean wrote: December 16, 2020, 8:18 pm Makes sense to give Burns the go. His Test results have been just short of the mark but not terrible and he's incumbent. Given the opener injury situation makes sense he gets one shot at it- if he fails then it's easy to drop him for Pucjovski next Test.
Exactly. Pucovski was all but in until his concussion. Given the selectors didn't want to recall Khawaja or SMarsh there was little alternative but to stick with Burns. He's gained a stay of execution and been given this one shot at keeping his spot. On him now.
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We've regressed a long way haven't we? Remember the years when to get into the Australian team, you had to score mountains of runs and even then it wasn't a guarantee (Hayden, Elliot, Stuart Law, Bevan all come to mind as players who took a long time to get their chance or didn't really get one for a long period of time - Hussey too).
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Azza wrote:We've regressed a long way haven't we? Remember the years when to get into the Australian team, you had to score mountains of runs and even then it wasn't a guarantee (Hayden, Elliot, Stuart Law, Bevan all come to mind as players who took a long time to get their chance or didn't really get one for a long period of time - Hussey too).
Damien Martyn took forever to get in, Greg Blewett, Brad Hodge. There were heaps of them.
Imagine having an Aussie Captain who averages 32 with the bat and hasn't hit a ton in 30 tests..... Even Kim Hughes averaged 35 and hit 9 tons and 22 50s in 70 tests.

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bonehead wrote: December 17, 2020, 4:56 am
Azza wrote:We've regressed a long way haven't we? Remember the years when to get into the Australian team, you had to score mountains of runs and even then it wasn't a guarantee (Hayden, Elliot, Stuart Law, Bevan all come to mind as players who took a long time to get their chance or didn't really get one for a long period of time - Hussey too).
Damien Martyn took forever to get in, Greg Blewett, Brad Hodge. There were heaps of them.
Imagine having an Aussie Captain who averages 32 with the bat and hasn't hit a ton in 30 tests..... Even Kim Hughes averaged 35 and hit 9 tons and 22 50s in 70 tests.

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HAHAHA, Flem has laid the gauntlet for Green. Says 'come join the hattrick on debut club'.
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Azza wrote: December 16, 2020, 10:32 pm We've regressed a long way haven't we? Remember the years when to get into the Australian team, you had to score mountains of runs and even then it wasn't a guarantee (Hayden, Elliot, Stuart Law, Bevan all come to mind as players who took a long time to get their chance or didn't really get one for a long period of time - Hussey too).
Yes with a but...

Yes we have. But we actually DO have guys like Pucjovski and green bashing the door down now, putting together multiple strong seasons before getting in. It's actually an improvement over when guys like Agar and Renshaw were getting picked after some very marginal performances in a single season.

If we consider we were also forced to debut 3 weak players because of a triple player ban - the likes of which we haven't dealt with since the early 80s (rebel tours, Packer and legendary retirements) I actually think the Shield is stronger now than it has been since that glory period.

You can only get so far debuting old guys who've "earnt" it like North and Quiney and Rogers before it becomes a bit self defeating and you need to back young talent that has backed it up for a couple of years as Pucjovski and Green have done- as opposed to making everyone wait 5, 6, 9 years).
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Hayden was 23 when he played his first Test, Elliot was 25, Blewett 24.

These guys had only played 3 shield seasons when they got picked for Australia.

We tend to gloss over that because they scored heavily later on (as Marshes and Wade and co are doing now).
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Shaw over Gill a bit of a surprise from India. The latter looked more comfortable of the 2 in the tour matches against Aust A. Coin flip really and Shaw has some exposure to test cricket.

Both relieved and disappointed Rishbah Pant was left out. Very dangerous batsman and his absence is a bonus for Australia IMO. Disappointed because he's fun to watch.

Ishant Sharma out with injury. Don't think that's so bad for India. I'd rate Bumrah, Shami and Yadav is their best pace combo. They will thrive in the conditions.
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BadnMean wrote: December 17, 2020, 1:14 pm Hayden was 23 when he played his first Test, Elliot was 25, Blewett 24.

These guys had only played 3 shield seasons when they got picked for Australia.

We tend to gloss over that because they scored heavily later on (as Marshes and Wade and co are doing now).
Wade's career turning point was giving up the gloves and focusing on batting.
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Slow 1st session with a points decision to Aussies. Both openers dismissed. Pujara and Kholi at the crease.
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Northern Raider wrote: December 17, 2020, 1:28 pm Shaw over Gill a bit of a surprise from India. The latter looked more comfortable of the 2 in the tour matches against Aust A. Coin flip really and Shaw has some exposure to test cricket.

Both relieved and disappointed Rishbah Pant was left out. Very dangerous batsman and his absence is a bonus for Australia IMO. Disappointed because he's fun to watch.

Ishant Sharma out with injury. Don't think that's so bad for India. I'd rate Bumrah, Shami and Yadav is their best pace combo. They will thrive in the conditions.
Hmmm Ishant's last 2-3 years in Test cricket have been really excellent. He's found his lengths. I reckon he's a big loss- his height would have balanced their attack too.

Yadav is ok but has a tendency to go for runs even if he's striking and really get carted if he's not.
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BadnMean wrote: December 17, 2020, 4:34 pm
Northern Raider wrote: December 17, 2020, 1:28 pm Shaw over Gill a bit of a surprise from India. The latter looked more comfortable of the 2 in the tour matches against Aust A. Coin flip really and Shaw has some exposure to test cricket.

Both relieved and disappointed Rishbah Pant was left out. Very dangerous batsman and his absence is a bonus for Australia IMO. Disappointed because he's fun to watch.

Ishant Sharma out with injury. Don't think that's so bad for India. I'd rate Bumrah, Shami and Yadav is their best pace combo. They will thrive in the conditions.
Hmmm Ishant's last 2-3 years in Test cricket have been really excellent. He's found his lengths. I reckon he's a big loss- his height would have balanced their attack too.

Yadav is ok but has a tendency to go for runs even if he's striking and really get carted if he's not.
It's no knock on Ishant. I just think Yadav has really come on as a test bowler recently.
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India have been suuuuuuuuuuper slow today. Really hope they get bitten in the night session.

I too am glad Pant is out of the side. However, they have gone for the guy with the better glovework in Saha.
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Aussie bowlers have been very good in the first two sessions. Tied the Indians down and had they referred Kohli would have had him out too. Green beginning his Test bowling career against World Class batsmen won't do him any harm and he bowled ok. I can't wait to see what he can do with the bat.
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RedRaider wrote: December 17, 2020, 7:14 pm Aussie bowlers have been very good in the first two sessions. Tied the Indians down and had they referred Kohli would have had him out too. Green beginning his Test bowling career against World Class batsmen won't do him any harm and he bowled ok. I can't wait to see what he can do with the bat.
Yep. India been slow and I think some excellent bowling has been a big factor there.
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That was about the only way we were getting him out TBH (Yes, saw the non review. I was ok with it live).

Now things might get interesting...
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Kohli Rahane'd out!

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Sid wrote: December 17, 2020, 8:43 pm Kohli Rahane'd out!

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1st, you run out Kohli (Rahana out... good stuff that :lol: ).
Then take a Watto review.
Talk about doubling down.
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Good start today
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Not so much with the batting though. Labu and Burns in, what a combo. What a COMBO.
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Burns just got shafted. Really shouldn't give those out. Might have finished his test career on a dodgy call
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Ah well, he scored more than I expected.
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