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I feel bad for our kiwi brahs but still pretty content knowing there are a billion miserable Indians.

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Would have been even better if there were millions of miserable poms to go with the Indians.
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Hopefully the ICC will look at the rules for future World Cups and come up with the realisation that cricket is about making runs AND taking wickets.
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RedRaider wrote: July 18, 2019, 6:57 pm Hopefully the ICC will look at the rules for future World Cups and come up with the realisation that cricket is about making runs AND taking wickets.
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Or..

The ICC organise a boxing match between Warner and Root.

The winner gets the World Cup.
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-PJ- wrote: July 19, 2019, 6:54 am Or..

The ICC organise a boxing match between Warner and Root.

The winner gets the World Cup.
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Will be very interesting to see how Australia's upcoming internal match plays out in regard to selections. They need to trim the squad from 25 to 16 for the Ashes. Although there's no reason they can't pull players in if needed.

There's 1 spot for the quicks to be decided so it could effectively be a bowl-off between Siddle, Tremain, Neser and Bird. We really need to move past Siddle and give somebody else a shot. Neser is in form and Tremain is a demon with the Duke. Bird further down the pecking order (pun intended). Only injury would see the 5th quick see any test duty but our bowlers have proven to be quick fragile in that regard.

For the batsmen it might not have as much impact on squad selections. With Smith and Warner returning there will be a couple of incumbents miss out on test selection but you would expect them to still be in the squad. The biggest conundrum is Wade and Carey. Do they need a back up keeper in the squad? If Paine gets injured they can simply draft in Carey from outside the squad. Wade could easily justify a spot in the squad as a batsman. He's in rare form. Just don't even consider giving him the gloves.
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The women are on top in ENG..

Oooops
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Matt wrote: July 19, 2019, 9:52 am
-PJ- wrote: July 19, 2019, 6:54 am Or..

The ICC organise a boxing match between Warner and Root.

The winner gets the World Cup.
:lol:
Wait..

I'm meant Mrs Warner. :)
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-PJ- wrote: July 19, 2019, 10:25 am
Matt wrote: July 19, 2019, 9:52 am
-PJ- wrote: July 19, 2019, 6:54 am Or..

The ICC organise a boxing match between Warner and Root.

The winner gets the World Cup.
:lol:
Wait..

I'm meant Mrs Warner. :)
A lot of unhappy Poms from now til she passes then
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https://www.cricket.com.au/news/austral ... 2019-07-19

Anyone wanna make a call on the 16 they will pick?

My 16 is:

Warner
Harris (Burns or Bancroft could easily get picked, but I only see 1 of these 3 getting a spot)
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Patterson
Carey (yes, it will be Paine)
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazelwood
Pattinson 12th

Labuchagne - 2nd spinner, but batting versitility

Neser/ Marsh - bowling vs batting allrounder

Wade/ Carey - batsmen, and backup keeper

Bird/ Tremain - 5th quick
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Warner
Harris
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Wade
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood
Pattinson

Labuschagne
Neser
Burns
Carey

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So 2 of you think Harris retains his spot ahead of Burns. Why is that?
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Northern Raider wrote: July 19, 2019, 11:00 pm So 2 of you think Harris retains his spot ahead of Burns. Why is that?
Because I think they really like Harris and Burns is a flat track bully. Harris plays like Langer, and I think he likes that, even if he cut him from WA a decade ago.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/austral ... 2019-07-20

Draft my butt! The only Tests players in Hicks side are walk up starts. NR checkout the openers for Haddins side.
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Burns has proven himself, he’s in my team.

Burns
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Labuschagne/Patterson
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

Patterson/Labuschagne
Wade
Pattinson
Bird
Marsh

- Absolutely no need to pick a second spinner if SOK is blacklisted. Labuschagne is genuinely a better attacking second option than Holland anyway.
- With Khawaja you don’t need a back up opener. Not picking one gives Burns confidence as well.
- Carey not considered. Has to play some good state red ball cricket first.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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I think the team that scores more runs than the opposition will win.

Or will they ?
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We're already taking England apart nicely and the rain is coming back to haunt them...excellent 50s from Healy and Lanning, a great 87 from Haynes and of course, of course another brilliant hundred from Perry.

I do think we should look at a declaration soon, just to bowl England out...
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It depends on if they want to win the test or not..a draw will be enough to win the ashes.

They lead 6-0 after 3 ODIs

Do they go for the kill or give ENG more time in the field to totally deflate them.

And I'm sure it's a 4day test not 5..happy to be corrected there.

Either way our Women's cricket team is pure gold.
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Matt wrote: July 20, 2019, 7:47 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 19, 2019, 11:00 pm So 2 of you think Harris retains his spot ahead of Burns. Why is that?
Because I think they really like Harris and Burns is a flat track bully. Harris plays like Langer, and I think he likes that, even if he cut him from WA a decade ago.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/austral ... 2019-07-20

Draft my butt! The only Tests players in Hicks side are walk up starts. NR checkout the openers for Haddins side.
I guess that's where we differ. Your focus is on image and personality. I'm old school and like to see batsmen score runs.

Not sure what you're saying in that 2nd paragraph.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 20, 2019, 12:34 pm
Matt wrote: July 20, 2019, 7:47 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 19, 2019, 11:00 pm So 2 of you think Harris retains his spot ahead of Burns. Why is that?
Because I think they really like Harris and Burns is a flat track bully. Harris plays like Langer, and I think he likes that, even if he cut him from WA a decade ago.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/austral ... 2019-07-20

Draft my butt! The only Tests players in Hicks side are walk up starts. NR checkout the openers for Haddins side.
I guess that's where we differ. Your focus is on image and personality. I'm old school and like to see batsmen score runs.

Not sure what you're saying in that 2nd paragraph.
Read the 2 lineups for the inter Aussie test. Makes more sense then
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julian87 wrote: July 20, 2019, 8:09 am Burns has proven himself, he’s in my team.

Burns
Warner
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Labuschagne/Patterson
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

Patterson/Labuschagne
Wade
Pattinson
Bird
Marsh

- Absolutely no need to pick a second spinner if SOK is blacklisted. Labuschagne is genuinely a better attacking second option than Holland anyway.
- With Khawaja you don’t need a back up opener. Not picking one gives Burns confidence as well.
- Carey not considered. Has to play some good state red ball cricket first.
I like this squad too. TBF, at least we are picking from varying good options, rather than the dregs
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Matt wrote: July 21, 2019, 7:13 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 20, 2019, 12:34 pm
Matt wrote: July 20, 2019, 7:47 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 19, 2019, 11:00 pm So 2 of you think Harris retains his spot ahead of Burns. Why is that?
Because I think they really like Harris and Burns is a flat track bully. Harris plays like Langer, and I think he likes that, even if he cut him from WA a decade ago.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/austral ... 2019-07-20

Draft my butt! The only Tests players in Hicks side are walk up starts. NR checkout the openers for Haddins side.
I guess that's where we differ. Your focus is on image and personality. I'm old school and like to see batsmen score runs.

Not sure what you're saying in that 2nd paragraph.
Read the 2 lineups for the inter Aussie test. Makes more sense then
Looked at both teams. Still not sure what your point is.
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Northern Raider wrote: July 21, 2019, 7:30 pm
Matt wrote: July 21, 2019, 7:13 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 20, 2019, 12:34 pm
Matt wrote: July 20, 2019, 7:47 am
Northern Raider wrote: July 19, 2019, 11:00 pm So 2 of you think Harris retains his spot ahead of Burns. Why is that?
Because I think they really like Harris and Burns is a flat track bully. Harris plays like Langer, and I think he likes that, even if he cut him from WA a decade ago.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/austral ... 2019-07-20

Draft my butt! The only Tests players in Hicks side are walk up starts. NR checkout the openers for Haddins side.
I guess that's where we differ. Your focus is on image and personality. I'm old school and like to see batsmen score runs.

Not sure what you're saying in that 2nd paragraph.
Read the 2 lineups for the inter Aussie test. Makes more sense then
Looked at both teams. Still not sure what your point is.
Says it was a draft, I call BS
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Matt wrote: July 21, 2019, 8:00 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 21, 2019, 7:30 pm
Matt wrote: July 21, 2019, 7:13 pm
Northern Raider wrote: July 20, 2019, 12:34 pm
Matt wrote: July 20, 2019, 7:47 am

Because I think they really like Harris and Burns is a flat track bully. Harris plays like Langer, and I think he likes that, even if he cut him from WA a decade ago.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/austral ... 2019-07-20

Draft my butt! The only Tests players in Hicks side are walk up starts. NR checkout the openers for Haddins side.
I guess that's where we differ. Your focus is on image and personality. I'm old school and like to see batsmen score runs.

Not sure what you're saying in that 2nd paragraph.
Read the 2 lineups for the inter Aussie test. Makes more sense then
Looked at both teams. Still not sure what your point is.
Says it was a draft, I call BS
Ok thanks. Mighty helpful
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On Macquarie Sports Radio, former coach Darren Lehmann named his Australian XI for the first Ashes Test against England:

1. David Warner
2. Cam Bancroft
3. Marcus Harris
4. Steve Smith
5. Travis Head
6. Joe Burns
7. Tim Paine (c)
8. James Pattinson / Mitchell Starc (depends on wicket)
9. Pat Cummins
10. Josh Hazlewood
11. Nathan Lyon
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I presume he thinks Khawaja won’t be fit. If not he’s an idiot.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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julian87 wrote: July 22, 2019, 2:26 pm I presume he thinks Khawaja won’t be fit. If not he’s an idiot.
Yep, I read the article the other day. He said Khawaja at 3, though I dont think he will be fit for the 1st Test, so Id pick Harris.

Also, I know he knows those players better than I, but a team of openers is stupid.
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https://www.cricket.com.au/news/justin- ... 2019-07-22

Maybe I'm reading into this a little too much, but I get the feeling from this interview that the Aussies will use the county players as depth.

My thoughts being:
No 2nd spinner - Labu and Agar in the country if Lyon goes down.

I think that means Marsh is in the 16, even if it not in the XI. Unless for some reason they think Nesers batting is good enough to be a bowling allrounder *shudder*.

I reckon they only pick 1 opener, Bancroft in the country, pending Khawajas fitness. Meaning Harris and Burns H2H.

I think Wade is in the 16, meaning Carey is probably superfluous to their needs. Though, it would be very interesting if both were picked.

At least 1 of Burns, Patterson or Head are missing out. I reckon Head is the red herring, he was our best middle order bat last summer, he will play.
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I don't see how we leave Wade out. At a time when we're crying out for domestic players to score big consistently, the guy is hitting hundreds left right and centre. What more does he have to do?. Really feel that including a second keeper as a batsman plays on the minds of Australian selectors, much more so than the selectors of other countries.

I'd go:

Warner
Harris
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Wade
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

Lotta lefties there but to me they're all clearly deserving of a spot above the rest. Guys like Bancroft and Handscomb have significant technical deficiency which England will be ruthless in exposing on their pitches.
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Matt wrote:On Macquarie Sports Radio, former coach Darren Lehmann named his Australian XI for the first Ashes Test against England:

1. David Warner
2. Cam Bancroft
3. Marcus Harris
4. Steve Smith
5. Travis Head
6. Joe Burns
7. Tim Paine (c)
8. James Pattinson / Mitchell Starc (depends on wicket)
9. Pat Cummins
10. Josh Hazlewood
11. Nathan Lyon
Dropping Starc in the country where he's probably going to be most dangerous.. makes sense..

Pattinson should be battling with Hazelwood, Cam Bancroft doesn't walk back in and Burns either opens or doesn't play.

Wade should be a lock for the 6, otherwise domestic form means jack ****



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-TW- wrote: July 22, 2019, 7:14 pm
Matt wrote:On Macquarie Sports Radio, former coach Darren Lehmann named his Australian XI for the first Ashes Test against England:

1. David Warner
2. Cam Bancroft
3. Marcus Harris
4. Steve Smith
5. Travis Head
6. Joe Burns
7. Tim Paine (c)
8. James Pattinson / Mitchell Starc (depends on wicket)
9. Pat Cummins
10. Josh Hazlewood
11. Nathan Lyon
Dropping Starc in the country where he's probably going to be most dangerous.. makes sense..

Pattinson should be battling with Hazelwood, Cam Bancroft doesn't walk back in and Burns either opens or doesn't play.

Wade should be a lock for the 6, otherwise domestic form means jack ****



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afgtnk wrote: July 22, 2019, 6:49 pm I don't see how we leave Wade out. At a time when we're crying out for domestic players to score big consistently, the guy is hitting hundreds left right and centre. What more does he have to do?. Really feel that including a second keeper as a batsman plays on the minds of Australian selectors, much more so than the selectors of other countries.

I'd go:

Warner
Harris
Khawaja
Smith
Head
Wade
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Hazlewood

Lotta lefties there but to me they're all clearly deserving of a spot above the rest. Guys like Bancroft and Handscomb have significant technical deficiency which England will be ruthless in exposing on their pitches.
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Warnies XI

Warner
Harris
Khawaja
Smirh
Head
Wade
Paine
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon
Starc/ Hazelwood
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-TW- wrote: July 22, 2019, 7:14 pm
Matt wrote:On Macquarie Sports Radio, former coach Darren Lehmann named his Australian XI for the first Ashes Test against England:

1. David Warner
2. Cam Bancroft
3. Marcus Harris
4. Steve Smith
5. Travis Head
6. Joe Burns
7. Tim Paine (c)
8. James Pattinson / Mitchell Starc (depends on wicket)
9. Pat Cummins
10. Josh Hazlewood
11. Nathan Lyon
Dropping Starc in the country where he's probably going to be most dangerous.. makes sense..

Pattinson should be battling with Hazelwood, Cam Bancroft doesn't walk back in and Burns either opens or doesn't play.

Wade should be a lock for the 6, otherwise domestic form means jack ****



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