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All over in the space of two and a half days.
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LP Raider wrote: January 26, 2019, 4:18 pm
Brewdle wrote: January 26, 2019, 4:15 pm Yeah that’s what I thought, the boxing kangaroo


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Ill be honest, I didn't expect much from Sri Lanka, but I expected them to at least move into the 4th day.

Im going to Day 3 at Manuka. I hope it lasts that long.
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Given the showing from Sri Lanka I think CA can try anything and anyone they want in the next Test.

I can see them resting/"resting" Khawaja and Starc for Pucovski and possibly even Siddle (which is scary), or a Boland/ Tremain.
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I was impressed with Labuschange when I watched him live in Sydney. I am still impressed. If anything he sees the ball too early and is into his shot before the ball arrives. Plays very straight. I'm really looking forward to watching him in England. His technique is made for it I reckon.

Nice to see us unearth a bowler who can swing the ball and bowl with control. He looks made for English conditions and Duke cricket balls.
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Let's not get to excited. SRI are garb. They were totally pumbled in NZ before landing here and have been bog for 12 months before hand.

All we've done today is retain our mediocre test ranking.
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Manuka will be a kinder pitch for them


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So Nickman, did you get munted? You looked munted!


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I've got some great tickets for sale, for Manuka Day 5. Going CHEAP. Get in quick before they're snapped up.

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Matt wrote: January 26, 2019, 5:33 pm
LP Raider wrote: January 26, 2019, 4:18 pm
Brewdle wrote: January 26, 2019, 4:15 pm Yeah that’s what I thought, the boxing kangaroo


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Has to be him, looked liked he's a had few.
I can confirm he is there.
I can't confirm that was him.
You sure? I thought it was Darren Lehman.
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An interesting observation. Steve Smith and David Warner are still no4 and no6 respectively in the ICC Test Batting Rankings. The highest ranked Aussie currently playing is Khawaja at 13. Next is Shaun Marsh at 38 then Handscomb at 44.
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Up until about 2-3 months ago Smith was #2.

Even though both aren't currently playing test cricket other batsmen around the world weren't shooting the lights out.

Smith and Warner have sat in the top 10 since their suspensions started without swinging a bat.
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Here's the AUS batsmen current ICC ranking in test cricket.

Updated 15/1/19

4- Steve Smith
6- David Warner
13- Usman Khawaja
38- Shaun Marsh
44- Peter Handscomb
48- Tim Paine
60- Travis Head
66- Cameron Bancroft
69- Marcus Harris
72- Matthew Renshaw
81- Mitchell Marsh
85- Aaron Finch
88- Joe Burns
90- Pat Cummins
91- Mitchell Starc

Thats just within the top 100. Amazing both Cummins and Starc amoung that list.
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Shows a bit of a flaw in the system. A batsman out for an extended period doesn't have any poor performances to drop them down the rankings.
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Northern Raider wrote: January 27, 2019, 8:44 am Shows a bit of a flaw in the system. A batsman out for an extended period doesn't have any poor performances to drop them down the rankings.
It also suggests that the ball has been better in the last 12 months.
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What XI do you think we play in the 2nd Test? There are now 15 players to choose from.

Burns
Harris
Khawaja
Labuschagne
Head
Patterson
Paine
Cummins
Starc
Lyon
Richardson

Siddle
Pucovski
Renshaw
Stoinis

They have basically already said they want Stoinis due to the extra bowling required at Manuka (aka its a road).

And its seems like they want to pick Pucovski, but not sure for who and/or how.
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I just read something that said Renshaw has been released from the squad for Stoinis
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I think this is a case of "rest" Khawaja to give Stoinis a run.

It would be unfair on any of Burns, Labuschagne or Patterson to be dropped having just got in.

If... and its a big IF, you wanted to give the Pucovski a run, then its Harris or Head. Its a big call to leave either out.
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Nobody is that secure in this side they can afford to be "rested". Its the last test of the summer anyway and they don't play another one till August. Nobody needs a break with such a large one approaching.

They have just won a test in 2.5 days. Stop **** with the team and let all those guys have another run.
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Northern Raider wrote: January 27, 2019, 5:28 pm Nobody is that secure in this side they can afford to be "rested". Its the last test of the summer anyway and they don't play another one till August. Nobody needs a break with such a large one approaching.

They have just won a test in 2.5 days. Stop **** with the team and let all those guys have another run.
It's a nice way of dumping Khawaja.

Matt is delusional if Langer is going to rest Harris or Head. They are a lock for the Ashes.
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Current ashes team

Harris
Warner (not that I want him, but he'll be there)
Labushagne (unless khawaja wants to pull his finger out)
Smith
Head
Patterson/Renshaw
Paine
Cummins
Lyon
Richardson
Hazelwood

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Right now its hard to see Renshaw replacing Patterson. Would need to see big form reversals from both in 1st class cricket between now and the Ashes tour.

Burns is a place holder for Warner. Smith will come in for any one of Labauscahagne, Khawaja, Head or Patterson. Most likely Labaushagne but lets see what transpires over the next 6 months.
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LP Raider wrote: January 27, 2019, 7:43 pm
Northern Raider wrote: January 27, 2019, 5:28 pm Nobody is that secure in this side they can afford to be "rested". Its the last test of the summer anyway and they don't play another one till August. Nobody needs a break with such a large one approaching.

They have just won a test in 2.5 days. Stop **** with the team and let all those guys have another run.
It's a nice way of dumping Khawaja.

Matt is delusional if Langer is going to rest Harris or Head. They are a lock for the Ashes.
Pretty sure I said if, and its a big if.
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-TW- wrote: January 27, 2019, 8:21 pm Current ashes team

Harris
Warner (not that I want him, but he'll be there)
Labushagne (unless khawaja wants to pull his finger out)
Smith
Head
Patterson/Renshaw
Paine
Cummins
Lyon
Richardson
Hazelwood

Starc 12th
Renshaw is an opening batsman. Ive only seen him bat elsewhere in T20, and TBH, he is a squad filler in that competition. He isn't suited to bludgeoning the ball. Therefore, if he cant beat out Harris he doesn't play.
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Northern Raider wrote: January 28, 2019, 12:49 pm Right now its hard to see Renshaw replacing Patterson. Would need to see big form reversals from both in 1st class cricket between now and the Ashes tour.

Burns is a place holder for Warner. Smith will come in for any one of Labauscahagne, Khawaja, Head or Patterson. Most likely Labaushagne but lets see what transpires over the next 6 months.
He had a poor yr, but Khawaja isnt going anywhere.

I rate Patterson higher than both the other 2. His technique and career stats are better - only player in the top 10 run scoring in Shield cricket 3 yrs in a row. However, Head is favored by CA, therefore its Patterson vs Labuschagne for the last spot. Right now Labuschagne is ahead.

There is also no reason why Pucovski or Handscomb or Bancroft cant make a few runs to end the yr and put a cat amongst pigeons.
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Truth is none of us can read what goes through the minds of the selectors. They been throwing us continual curve balls since well before Sandpapergate and more so afterwards. Lets not assume there won't be a Marsh or two in the Ashes team.
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For the 1st time in a very long time, hell, since 94-95, when the likes of Langer, Lehmann, Martyn, Hayden, Ponting and Reiffel, were in the A side, am I actually interested to here who they pick in the Australia A side. TBH, I feel like they did this more than once but, but they included the A side in a Tri-series of ODIs, making it a 4.

Is there any restrictions on incumbents playing? I vaguely remember them including Warner in Zimbabwe to get some runs before recalling him at one stage?

Im going to assume incumbents cant be named, so ill have a crack at the team:
Bancroft
Renshaw
Maxwell
Handscomb
Pucovski
M Marsh (allrounder)
Wade/ Doran
Boland
Tremain
Bird/ Mennie/ Steketee
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Why can't incumbents be named?

Paine, Patterson, Labushagne and possibly even Head won't be in the WC squad, so they'd be named in the a tour
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-TW- wrote: January 28, 2019, 5:40 pm Why can't incumbents be named?

Paine, Patterson, Labushagne and possibly even Head won't be in the WC squad, so they'd be named in the a tour
There is no way the national skipper plays for the A side.

Id be surprised if Head isnt in the WC squad TBH.

If those other 2 played in the A side, im ok with that.

The A side is supposed to be an up and comers/ fringe players side. I think my problem is that Maxwell will be, and Handscomb could be in the WC side.
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How is there "no way" he plays in the a side

It's match practice against countys, and he's playing for a team that hasn't won in England in 17 years.

If he or any test players aren't playing in the WC then they should be in the a tour, until they play Australia

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-TW- wrote: January 28, 2019, 7:22 pm How is there "no way" he plays in the a side

It's match practice against countys, and he's playing for a team that hasn't won in England in 17 years.

If he or any test players aren't playing in the WC then they should be in the a tour, until they play Australia
When was the last time an incumbent captain of any side played in the A side?!?

A sides arent match practice either. Its a selection trial. If Paine lined up i would be gobsmacked.

The Australian side will play their own lead up games too.
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I don't think Paine will be in the A side.
On form Wade should be playing but Hohns doesn't seem to focus on form.

If there is a player who needs time off I reckon it is Starc. He is not bowling well and a heavy load in the next Test may result in injury. We are one up. If there was a time to trial another bowler it is now.
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I'm a bit confused by this Australia A discussion. Is it identifying our 2nd XI or who will play tour matches in England before the Ashes?
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Northern Raider wrote:I'm a bit confused by this Australia A discussion. Is it identifying our 2nd XI or who will play tour matches in England before the Ashes?
CA has arranged an Australia A tour of England that will run concurrently with the World Cup, ensuring Test-only players like captain Paine have a chance to adjust to local conditions.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/a ... 8e821bf1a8

Australia will have one warm up game before the ashes against Aus A, and 2 tour games after the first and third tests.
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Matt wrote: January 28, 2019, 7:04 pm
-TW- wrote: January 28, 2019, 5:40 pm Why can't incumbents be named?

Paine, Patterson, Labushagne and possibly even Head won't be in the WC squad, so they'd be named in the a tour
There is no way the national skipper plays for the A side.

Id be surprised if Head isnt in the WC squad TBH.

If those other 2 played in the A side, im ok with that.

The A side is supposed to be an up and comers/ fringe players side. I think my problem is that Maxwell will be, and Handscomb could be in the WC side.
Head is not even close to the World Cup side.

He’s behind Finch, Warner, (Carey), Khawaja, Smith, Marsh, Marsh, Stoinis, Maxwell, Handscomb
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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