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Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 6, 2019, 1:45 pm
by manbearpig
sorry....i read first 4...somewhere

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 6, 2019, 2:46 pm
by The Nickman
manbearpig wrote: November 6, 2019, 1:45 pm
The Rickman wrote: November 5, 2019, 3:00 pm
yeh raiders wrote: November 5, 2019, 2:57 pm Official result following the upheld protest:

23. Vow and Declare
12. Prince of Arran
13. Il Paradiso
3. Master of Reality

Great to see an Aussie horse get up
OUR PUNTER'S CLUB JUST GOT THAT TRIFECTA!!
So.....you won, just short of 70K? :shock:
No... cripes, what betting agency do you use??

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 10:33 am
by Northern Raider
The Rickman wrote: November 6, 2019, 2:46 pm
manbearpig wrote: November 6, 2019, 1:45 pm
The Rickman wrote: November 5, 2019, 3:00 pm
yeh raiders wrote: November 5, 2019, 2:57 pm Official result following the upheld protest:

23. Vow and Declare
12. Prince of Arran
13. Il Paradiso
3. Master of Reality

Great to see an Aussie horse get up
OUR PUNTER'S CLUB JUST GOT THAT TRIFECTA!!
So.....you won, just short of 70K? :shock:
No... cripes, what betting agency do you use??
Swap places of Vow and Declare and Il Paradiso and I got the F4. So close yet so far. :(

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 12:07 pm
by manbearpig
Box it bro

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 2:01 pm
by Northern Raider
manbearpig wrote: November 12, 2019, 12:07 pm Box it bro
I had 3 x 5 x 8 x 8 which is 360 combinations. Boxing all 8 is 1680 combinations. Just a bit too rich for me.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 4:33 pm
by manbearpig
Fair call

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 5:09 pm
by Northern Raider
I was on the right track as I didn't have Prince of Arran or Master of Reality in my final winning chances but had them genuine top 4 contenders. Vow and Declare I gave a chance to but it was a case of liking others more. In hindsight I screwed that one up.
Alway know what I should have done after the race. :cry:

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 5:15 pm
by julian87
Gee I reckon True Self would’ve given it a shake if it had have got a start.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 6:00 pm
by yeh raiders
After getting burned in 2017 on Rekindling, I have had to put bets on light weights the last 2 years and luckily picked the right ones (thanks to NR).

I've already gone a cheeky each way on Skyward for next years cup. $56/$14

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 6:13 pm
by gangrenous
yeh raiders wrote:After getting burned in 2017 on Rekindling
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Re: Horse Racing

Posted: November 12, 2019, 6:18 pm
by Northern Raider
julian87 wrote: November 12, 2019, 5:15 pm Gee I reckon True Self would’ve given it a shake if it had have got a start.
Exactly my thoughts, particularly after his win on Saturday. Unlucky in Geelong Cup behind Prince of Arran before that. Form stacks up.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: January 25, 2020, 11:22 am
by RTW
I’m heading out for a day on the punt, does anyone have any good mail today?


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Re: Horse Racing

Posted: January 28, 2020, 9:19 am
by rugbyleaguemad
All Star Mile
Alligator Blood wins

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: January 28, 2020, 9:25 am
by rugbyleaguemad
Black Caviar Lighting Stakes

Yes Yes Yes take the $5.50 now

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: January 28, 2020, 6:29 pm
by Northern Raider
rugbyleaguemad wrote: January 28, 2020, 9:19 am All Star Mile
Alligator Blood wins
I'm always cautious about 3yos taking on orders horses the first time. Can win but I wouldn't be taking too short odds.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: January 28, 2020, 7:21 pm
by rugbyleaguemad
Look I’m hearing you and I don’t disagree with your comments but Alligator Blood is a bit special I think , he absolutely toyed with his rivals last start after being stuck in traffic and arrived late on course. Honestly I think this horse is pretty smart...

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: January 28, 2020, 11:00 pm
by yeh raiders
AB Hasn’t had a proper spell since his 2 year old days, and doesn’t look like he’ll get one until at least late April. That’s a query for me, but I trust VanDyk will look after him.

As for YYY, he’s a serious talent - I hope Exceedance and Bivouac are all competing with him this prep before they’re all likely retired.

I feel Australian racing lacks a 3YO group 1 sprint in the Autumn, to bring them altogether. The Arrowfield stakes, while its worth $1million, it’s a Group 2 and is somewhat treated accordingly. The 2016 edition had Japonisme, Counterattack and Takedown as the top 3, which is as good as it has gotten in recent years. I wonder why it hasn’t been elevated to Group 1 level. The TJ is a week prior, maybe it’s worth pushing the 3YO race back a week, to All Aged Stakes day.

Throw in filly’s Libertini, Loving Gaby and maybe California Zimbol - this is the best crop of 3YO sprinters we’ve had in a while.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: January 29, 2020, 9:21 pm
by Northern Raider
rugbyleaguemad wrote: January 28, 2020, 7:21 pm Look I’m hearing you and I don’t disagree with your comments but Alligator Blood is a bit special I think , he absolutely toyed with his rivals last start after being stuck in traffic and arrived late on course. Honestly I think this horse is pretty smart...
I wouldn't use his last start as a guide. He was many many lengths better than that field. Beat them like he should have, disrupted trip and all.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 3, 2020, 11:39 am
by yeh raiders
Yes Yes Yes off to stud, following an injury.

He’ll generate significant interest due to the Everest win and it’s a good move commercially, but gee it sucks to see 3YO’s retired without a Group 1.

Long gone are the days of the likes of Lonhro racing 30 odd times, before retiring to stud.

This will be Castelvecchio’s last prep. He’s the one to follow heading on a path toward the Rosehill guineas, then maybe onto the Queen Elizabeth.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 3, 2020, 1:32 pm
by Northern Raider
He had a tendon injury which always casts doubt on their long term racing future. Commercially it's a huge risk to try and keep them racing.

On the flip side many young stallions go off to stud to leverage the hype. Often they've not been tested in open company. If they did it might get exposed and show that their not as good as the hype.

Far more money to be made at stud that on the track for some of these.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 3, 2020, 8:17 pm
by yeh raiders
Yeah all the big studs are big businesses relying on their investment to produce for them quickly. They need to attract quality Mares early.

The Autumn Sun is probably a great example of such, everyone wanted him to race on, Waller was raving about him but when Redoute’s died and the opportunity to send him to the Mares that were booked for Redoute’s arose, it was a no brainer to retire him.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 4, 2020, 8:34 am
by Northern Raider
Doesn't take much. A Group 1 winning 3yo gets a stone bruise and they instantly retire it.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 12:46 pm
by Northern Raider
One of mine at Eagle Farm today a very good chance at $12.00. Race 7 no9 PLITVICE. Well worth something each way.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 4:29 pm
by Manchild
FML. Just saw this. Good win mate

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Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 4:38 pm
by Begbie
Northern Raider wrote: February 8, 2020, 12:46 pm One of mine at Eagle Farm today a very good chance at $12.00. Race 7 no9 PLITVICE. Well worth something each way.
Yes! Thank you.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 6:08 pm
by Smartseal
Northern Raider wrote:One of mine at Eagle Farm today a very good chance at $12.00. Race 7 no9 PLITVICE. Well worth something each way.
I got it a 10s. It was the heathcoat/fradd combo

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Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 6:53 pm
by Northern Raider
Pretty happy with that win. A grade ride by Fradd.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 6:57 pm
by Begbie

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 7:29 pm
by Northern Raider
Haha, watch the video till the end and you can see me in the background giving Rob's wife a kiss. Taking my opportunity while he was fulfilling media duties. ;)

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 7:32 pm
by Begbie
Pretty much close to a perfect ride.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 8, 2020, 9:02 pm
by yeh raiders
Well done NR!

How did I miss this....I was glued to 78 watching the full card at Caulfield instead.

Another 3YO colt looks set for stud, but great to see it being another son of Redoute’s. Alabama Express raced 3 deep into the wind, was under pressure 500 out and let rip (with the help of some luck), to win the group 1 CF Orr. He’ll probably be standing at Arrowfield later in the year.

This 3YO crop are outstanding.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 9, 2020, 10:34 am
by Northern Raider
Might need more than an Orr Stakes to justify retirement to a major stud.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 9, 2020, 12:32 pm
by yeh raiders
They’ll have a crack, but he’s already part owned by Arrowfield and a lack of Group 1 wins hasn’t stopped them in the past. It’s the type of blood line they’ll bend for to accommodate.

Not a Single Doubt, more recently Scissor Kick and Panzer Division (although quickly moved on) - never landed Group 1 wins.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 9, 2020, 12:53 pm
by Northern Raider
I guess it comes back whether they see an upside to racing on. Arrowfield prefer to stand the elite bloodstock and even though the Orr is a G1 it's not really a "stallion making" race. They couldn't ask a top dollar service fee just on the back of that and they wouldn't want to prematurely retire one just to stand at a low end fee. If he franks the win with another big race in the Autumn then yes, he probably will get retired.

Re: Horse Racing

Posted: February 15, 2020, 10:38 am
by Smartseal
Randwick R7 H6 each way, good place value

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