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Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2017, 8:34 pm

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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » December 27, 2017, 8:38 pm

greeneyed wrote:Sorry Bonehead, I know it is sacrilege to most people... but they’ve become comic book films in my view. I’ll probably watch this one when it comes free on Foxtel, but it’s got to be something out of the box, like Deadpool, before I watch comic book movies. Hollywood is pumping out the same film, with bigger and better special effects and CGI, but they’re all the same film. Nothing original and I’m personally finding them really boring. I watch a lot of movies out a sense of duty... Star Wars movies have fallen into that category for a while.

But I do understand why a lot of people would disagree, and I can see the nostalgic appeal of new episodes of films loved in youth.
I agree. Television has overtaken Movies when it comes to which is the best medium
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Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2017, 8:49 pm

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greeneyed wrote:Sorry Bonehead, I know it is sacrilege to most people... but they’ve become comic book films in my view. I’ll probably watch this one when it comes free on Foxtel, but it’s got to be something out of the box, like Deadpool, before I watch comic book movies. Hollywood is pumping out the same film, with bigger and better special effects and CGI, but they’re all the same film. Nothing original and I’m personally finding them really boring. I watch a lot of movies out a sense of duty... Star Wars movies have fallen into that category for a while.

But I do understand why a lot of people would disagree, and I can see the nostalgic appeal of new episodes of films loved in youth.
I agree. Television has overtaken Movies when it comes to which is the best medium
I start going to the movies around the time of award season. The best films are all held back to this period of the year. There are some very good films, I saw one today. But I agree, I see many better things on pay and streaming services during the year.

Mudbound... I’m pretty sure that didn’t get a theatrical release, not in Australia at least. Could be wrong, but I first saw that on Netflix and is an amazing film.

I want to see “Lady Bird”... saw the trailer today and it looks like some exciting film making.

By the way... it’s interesting to see The Greatest Showman is getting a 95 per cent approval rate on Rotten Tomatoes and 50 per cent with critics. I tried to like it, but I’m with the critics.
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greeneyed wrote:Sorry Bonehead, I know it is sacrilege to most people... but they’ve become comic book films in my view. I’ll probably watch this one when it comes free on Foxtel, but it’s got to be something out of the box, like Deadpool, before I watch comic book movies. Hollywood is pumping out the same film, with bigger and better special effects and CGI, but they’re all the same film. Nothing original and I’m personally finding them really boring. I watch a lot of movies out a sense of duty... Star Wars movies have fallen into that category for a while.

But I do understand why a lot of people would disagree, and I can see the nostalgic appeal of new episodes of films loved in youth.
I agree. Television has overtaken Movies when it comes to which is the best medium
100%. Just look at shows like Stranger Things. Perfect story telling. If that show was a movie it’d be something awful.


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Post by Manbush » December 27, 2017, 8:56 pm

Maybe it’s the comic book nerd in me but I don’t find comic book movies the same film, past few marvel ones I’ve found all different with different feels to them, Antman, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Homecoming, Dr Strange, Ragnorok, Black Panther and Infinity war look to be different again.

As for the tv medium like movies there are good and bad, the saturation of reality tv shows brings the medium down heavily (now they are boring and unoriginal) but things like American Gods, Preacher etc shows the strength of it.
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Post by PigRickman » December 27, 2017, 8:59 pm

T_R wrote:I'd have cut half an hour out of it, whuch would have eliminated the annoying Asian lass completely.

Why a film that has had what appears to be a prawn commanding battle fleets needs to worry about adding characters for diversity, I will never know.
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Re: The Film Thread

Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2017, 9:08 pm

Network FTA has basically given up on drama and comedy series. It’s mostly sport and reality. It is why I found something like The Good Doctor refreshing. A network TV show that dares to be different. (Though my critic brownie points have taken a dive with TR on this one!)

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Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2017, 9:13 pm

BTW... honestly now... had anyone heard of Zendaya before the last few weeks!?
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Post by Notaroboticfish » December 27, 2017, 9:19 pm

greeneyed wrote:BTW... honestly now... had anyone heard of Zendaya before the last few weeks!?
Through Disney Channel. She’s been on their shitty sitcoms for quite a while now


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Post by CJR » December 27, 2017, 9:26 pm

Only thing I knew her from is from the latest Spider-Man movie and even then I didn’t know her name until just now


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Re: The Film Thread

Post by greeneyed » December 27, 2017, 9:31 pm

Zendaya and Zac Efron sing one of the best songs from The Greatest Showman, I will give them that.

Wouldn’t be surprised if “This is me” from the film wins Best Song this year. It is the anthem for human diversity in the film... even though it is all completely revisionist. But at face value it is a good message.
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Post by Manbush » December 27, 2017, 10:21 pm

greeneyed wrote:Network FTA has basically given up on drama and comedy series. It’s mostly sport and reality. It is why I found something like The Good Doctor refreshing. A network TV show that dares to be different. (Though my critic brownie points have taken a dive with TR on this one!)

The new golden age of TV is all down to cable and streaming services.
Yep have to agree, I’ve all but given up with FTA. Will be interesting to see what new additions will come when Disney starts their streaming service, I’m guessing more comic and Star Wars tv shows :lol:
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Re: The Film Thread

Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » December 28, 2017, 8:07 am

Manbush wrote:Maybe it’s the comic book nerd in me but I don’t find comic book movies the same film, past few marvel ones I’ve found all different with different feels to them, Antman, Winter Soldier, Civil War, Homecoming, Dr Strange, Ragnorok, Black Panther and Infinity war look to be different again.

As for the tv medium like movies there are good and bad, the saturation of reality tv shows brings the medium down heavily (now they are boring and unoriginal) but things like American Gods, Preacher etc shows the strength of it.
Yeah, this I agree with... I think. I feel like Comic Movies are almost a different genre. Don’t get me wrong, I love them, but I couldn’t tell you what’s out at the Cinemas this weekend, or say that I’ve heard of any of the Oscar Award nominees.

I love comic movies, but I feel like they’re doing some damage, or at least driving the Cable and Streaming shows to a new high
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » December 28, 2017, 8:08 am

Oh and you mentioned Ragnarok. Best comic movie since Deadpool. Taika Waititi is a genius.


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Post by Manbush » December 28, 2017, 8:29 am

There are genres within the comic book genre though, New Mutants next will be taking the horror route.

Loved Ragnorok but felt went a bit heavy on the comedy, my least favorite part was Korg, felt they went for cheap laughs with him when going from the source material he was a hard ass and very serious character after having to kill his brothers, remove his comedy element and would’ve been better.
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Post by Northern Raider » December 28, 2017, 3:50 pm

Pigman wrote:
T_R wrote:I'd have cut half an hour out of it, whuch would have eliminated the annoying Asian lass completely.

Why a film that has had what appears to be a prawn commanding battle fleets needs to worry about adding characters for diversity, I will never know.
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Pigman wrote:
T_R wrote:I'd have cut half an hour out of it, whuch would have eliminated the annoying Asian lass completely.

Why a film that has had what appears to be a prawn commanding battle fleets needs to worry about adding characters for diversity, I will never know.
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Post by T_R » December 28, 2017, 4:04 pm

greeneyed wrote:Network FTA has basically given up on drama and comedy series. It’s mostly sport and reality. It is why I found something like The Good Doctor refreshing. A network TV show that dares to be different. (Though my critic brownie points have taken a dive with TR on this one!)

The new golden age of TV is all down to cable and streaming services.
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Post by -PJ- » January 2, 2018, 11:41 am

My son and I just got back from seeing Jumanji: Welcome to the jungle.

I really enjoyed it..

Dwayne Johnson, Kevin Hart, Jack Black and Karen Gillan(babe)

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Post by Dibbers » January 2, 2018, 12:20 pm

bonehead wrote:Image i was quoting the movie General
I picked up what you were putting down...

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Post by bonehead » January 2, 2018, 12:53 pm

-PJ- wrote:My son and I just got back from seeing Jumanji: Welcome to the jungle.

I really enjoyed it..

Dwayne Johnson, Kevin Hart, Jack Black and Karen Gillan(babe)

Fair dink great show...oh I love Ruby Roundhouse.
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Post by -PJ- » January 2, 2018, 1:16 pm

bonehead wrote:
-PJ- wrote:My son and I just got back from seeing Jumanji: Welcome to the jungle.

I really enjoyed it..

Dwayne Johnson, Kevin Hart, Jack Black and Karen Gillan(babe)

Fair dink great show...oh I love Ruby Roundhouse.
titan xc at charlestown reading peej? it's incredible
I'll look it up and go probably Thurs..

So it's pretty good ?
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Post by bonehead » January 2, 2018, 1:46 pm

-PJ- wrote:
bonehead wrote:
-PJ- wrote:My son and I just got back from seeing Jumanji: Welcome to the jungle.

I really enjoyed it..

Dwayne Johnson, Kevin Hart, Jack Black and Karen Gillan(babe)

Fair dink great show...oh I love Ruby Roundhouse.
titan xc at charlestown reading peej? it's incredible
I'll look it up and go probably Thurs..

So it's pretty good ?
the cinema is called titan xc, bigger screen, bigger sound awesome seats. I saw star wars in the titan at reading and the vmax at event - no comparison the titan is so much better
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Post by -PJ- » January 2, 2018, 1:53 pm

Well I was impressed with the seats at vmax but if you reckon titan xc is better I gotta believe ya bone.

I'll look into it for sure....
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Post by EJ » January 7, 2018, 12:32 pm

+1 for Titan XC

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Post by bonehead » January 16, 2018, 9:57 am

saw jumanji last night, it gets a pass mark.
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Post by Brewdle » January 16, 2018, 12:25 pm

I enjoyed it, probably more than TLJ, popcorn movie but fun

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Post by greeneyed » January 24, 2018, 3:52 pm

I saw Darkest Hour and The Shape of Water today.

Darkest Hour was outstanding in almost every way, the acting outstanding and Oldman in particular. We know it wasn’t entirely historically accurate... for example when Churchill jumped on the underground... but you’ve got to give a bit of dramatic license. Top of the line film.

The Shape of Water... unusual, daring, the cinematography and design of sets etc outstanding. I can see the art of the film making. I always like an homage to film and television history and it has heaps of that. But did I care about the characters? Did it move me in the way I think the film maker intended? Not really. Because The Creature from the Black Lagoon style monster just had me thinking... it’s just all too unreal. The characters really do seem like they’re from a 50s sci fi movie, and they are just too much like a comic book. Octavia Spencer was, as always, terrific, and she’s the best thing about the movie.
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Post by greeneyed » January 25, 2018, 6:24 pm

I saw The Post and Three Billboards outside Ebbing Missouri today.

The Post is Speilberg and Streep at their consummate best, Tom Hanks wasn't bad either. It is a great film, engrossing, fast paced and the sort of film that you don't notice running two hours. Professional film making in every way. Glorifies the "free press" of course... which is good where it has standards, as in this case. Much of the free press doesn't operate in that fashion, however.

Three Billboards... "dark comedy" shouldn't excuse some of the ridiculous holes in the storyline. How some of the characters did not get arrested at some stages... well it was outrageously silly... and that really wasn't the tone. Very good performances in the three main roles... they may well win some Oscars... But definitely should not win a best film award.

Also saw Dunkirk recently. Very professional film as well... deserves heaps of praise for the film technicians, cinematography and effects. Obviously made heaps of cash as well. But didn't really enjoy it. Somehow did not feel engaged with many of the characters (perhaps because they didn't say much and were secondary to the look and feel and action).

Darkest Hour and The Post were my favourites of the past five films I've seen.
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Post by the bone » January 26, 2018, 8:28 am

I haven't seen The Post yet, but of the other three films you mentioned, in order of preference I'd go:
1. Three billboards
2. Darkest hour
3. Dunkirk

All three movies were good, but a few comments on each:

Three billboards - I loved the characters and the redemption storyline of one of the mains. That scene in the hospital with the orange juice was touching. The only thing that felt out of place to me was Woody Harrelson's wife... her accent was all over the place.

The Darkest Hour plot line wasn't as engrossing as I'd hoped. And I preferred John Lithgow's portrayal of Churchill in The Crown.

Dunkirk was a cool story, but a lot of action which I'm not into.


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Post by greeneyed » January 26, 2018, 9:21 am

the bone wrote:I haven't seen The Post yet, but of the other three films you mentioned, in order of preference I'd go:
1. Three billboards
2. Darkest hour
3. Dunkirk

All three movies were good, but a few comments on each:

Three billboards - I loved the characters and the redemption storyline of one of the mains. That scene in the hospital with the orange juice was touching. The only thing that felt out of place to me was Woody Harrelson's wife... her accent was all over the place.

The Darkest Hour plot line wasn't as engrossing as I'd hoped. And I preferred John Lithgow's portrayal of Churchill in The Crown.

Dunkirk was a cool story, but a lot of action which I'm not into.


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And that wasn't the only silly thing about the plot. I get that ridiculous things happen in comedies... and this is a black comedy... but the tone is tragic, and the plot holes just don't gel with that, for me, anyway.
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Post by the bone » January 26, 2018, 12:21 pm

greeneyed wrote:
the bone wrote:I haven't seen The Post yet, but of the other three films you mentioned, in order of preference I'd go:
1. Three billboards
2. Darkest hour
3. Dunkirk

All three movies were good, but a few comments on each:

Three billboards - I loved the characters and the redemption storyline of one of the mains. That scene in the hospital with the orange juice was touching. The only thing that felt out of place to me was Woody Harrelson's wife... her accent was all over the place.

The Darkest Hour plot line wasn't as engrossing as I'd hoped. And I preferred John Lithgow's portrayal of Churchill in The Crown.

Dunkirk was a cool story, but a lot of action which I'm not into.


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I just found it ridiculous that a cop smashes down the glass front door of a building, assaults someone, smashes a window and throws him out of a first floor window, and then kicks him in the street, in front of a brand new police chief... and all that happens to him is he gets fired!? No arrest? How he was still on the streets for the rest of the film is beyond me.

And that wasn't the only silly thing about the plot. I get that ridiculous things happen in comedies... and this is a black comedy... but the tone is tragic, and the plot holes just don't gel with that, for me, anyway.
Yeah I understand what you mean, I found that ridiculous as well. Funny thing is, for ages I thought it was based on a true story... and I'm thinking, how can this possibly be true? I'm pretty sure it was at that moment you described above that I checked with my girlfriend and she told me it was fictional and that the director was simply inspired to write the story after seeing something similar to the concept of those three billboards.


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Post by greeneyed » January 27, 2018, 9:23 pm

Just watched "Get out". Entertaining... and it is no doubt film craftsmanship... but really not much originality. It is not far from a standard horror film. No way it should be a best picture nomination.
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » January 28, 2018, 10:13 am

*** Get Out Spoiler ***

I loved Get Out. You could tell it was a horror directed by a comedic writer. It is very clever with its subtle hints on how race is treated in the US. Things like the him picking the cotton out of the chair, and the daughter not mixing the milk with her fruit loops.

I loved that his friend the security guard is meant to represent and reflect what the typical audience member would shout while watching a horror.

Fun Fact: It was originally going to end with the lead character getting framed and arrested. But after the Black Lives Matter protests, the director felt it a happy ending was deserved


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Post by Roger Kenworthy » February 7, 2018, 6:51 am

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the bone wrote:I haven't seen The Post yet, but of the other three films you mentioned, in order of preference I'd go:
1. Three billboards
2. Darkest hour
3. Dunkirk

All three movies were good, but a few comments on each:

Three billboards - I loved the characters and the redemption storyline of one of the mains. That scene in the hospital with the orange juice was touching. The only thing that felt out of place to me was Woody Harrelson's wife... her accent was all over the place.

The Darkest Hour plot line wasn't as engrossing as I'd hoped. And I preferred John Lithgow's portrayal of Churchill in The Crown.

Dunkirk was a cool story, but a lot of action which I'm not into.


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I just found it ridiculous that a cop smashes down the glass front door of a building, assaults someone, smashes a window and throws him out of a first floor window, and then kicks him in the street, in front of a brand new police chief... and all that happens to him is he gets fired!? No arrest? How he was still on the streets for the rest of the film is beyond me.

And that wasn't the only silly thing about the plot. I get that ridiculous things happen in comedies... and this is a black comedy... but the tone is tragic, and the plot holes just don't gel with that, for me, anyway.
Yeah I understand what you mean, I found that ridiculous as well. Funny thing is, for ages I thought it was based on a true story... and I'm thinking, how can this possibly be true? I'm pretty sure it was at that moment you described above that I checked with my girlfriend and she told me it was fictional and that the director was simply inspired to write the story after seeing something similar to the concept of those three billboards.


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The final exchange between mother and daughter also felt very ham-fisted IMO.

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