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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by The Rickman » May 24, 2019, 11:56 am

Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:47 am
Have to admit this an awesome internet nerd fight.
There's really not a lot of people on the side of the show writers on this one that I've seen online, it's almost universal condemnation.

And here the largest supporter they have is GE, but again... he has a serious history of unconscious bias.
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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » May 24, 2019, 11:56 am

I just read that in the original script, Jorah was going to last until the end, and join Jon at the wall. The final scene was going to be Jon, Jorah and Tormund riding off into the sunset. They changed the ending because they weren’t able to justify why Jorah would ride with Jon after killing his beloved, so they changed it.

That gave me a bit of confidence, that they had a crack at closing some of the plot holes. Imagine the reaction if that happened!


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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by The Rickman » May 24, 2019, 11:57 am

Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:56 am
I just read that in the original script, Jorah was going to last until the end, and join Jon at the wall. The final scene was going to be Jon, Jorah and Tormund riding off into the sunset. They changed the ending because they weren’t able to justify why Jorah would ride with Jon after killing his beloved, so they changed it.

That gave me a bit of confidence, that they had a crack at closing some of the plot holes. Imagine the reaction if that happened!


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That also gives me a lot of confidence that major parts of that ending are D&D's, not George's.
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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

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PigRickman wrote:
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
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and the only word I could understand was “Sydney”, I would be asking who **** in my pants
I believe correct terminology would be “which one of you cowards **** in my pants?”
That’s right, not to be confused with Negans “I hope you have your ******* pants on!”

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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by Northern Raider » May 24, 2019, 12:02 pm

The Rickman wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:56 am
Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:47 am
Have to admit this an awesome internet nerd fight.
There's really not a lot of people on the side of the show writers on this one that I've seen online, it's almost universal condemnation.

And here the largest supporter they have is GE, but again... he has a serious history of unconscious bias.
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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by The Rickman » May 24, 2019, 12:07 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 12:02 pm
The Rickman wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:56 am
Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:47 am
Have to admit this an awesome internet nerd fight.
There's really not a lot of people on the side of the show writers on this one that I've seen online, it's almost universal condemnation.

And here the largest supporter they have is GE, but again... he has a serious history of unconscious bias.
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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by Botman » May 24, 2019, 12:16 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:47 am
Have to admit this an awesome internet nerd fight.
It's cool guy hour here on the GH. :lol: :lol:
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » May 24, 2019, 12:28 pm

PigRickman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:47 am
Have to admit this an awesome internet nerd fight.
It's cool guy hour here on the GH. :lol: :lol:
Haha, reminded me of this

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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by Sid » May 24, 2019, 12:36 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 12:02 pm
The Rickman wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:56 am
Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:47 am
Have to admit this an awesome internet nerd fight.
There's really not a lot of people on the side of the show writers on this one that I've seen online, it's almost universal condemnation.

And here the largest supporter they have is GE, but again... he has a serious history of unconscious bias.
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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by Dr Zaius » May 24, 2019, 1:28 pm

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greeneyed wrote:
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Who says Jon didn't learn enough of the language to work it out? I've learned enough of a lot of languages to work out what is being said, but it is much more difficult to speak it.
What evidence did the show give the idea that Jon AND Arya had sound understanding of the language?

That’s the point, if you want to make that scene work, put some dialogue somewhere in the lead up eps to show he’s picked up some Dothraki.

That’s what the show did so incredibly well for 6 seasons and the type of super bad short cuts they’ve made since losing the source material
I'm as pissed as anyone on the plot holes in the last episode, but I don't think that you had understand what she was saying to know what she was getting at. Her intentions were pretty clear.
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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by Northern Raider » May 24, 2019, 2:39 pm

Sid wrote:
May 24, 2019, 12:36 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 12:02 pm
The Rickman wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:56 am
Northern Raider wrote:
May 24, 2019, 11:47 am
Have to admit this an awesome internet nerd fight.
There's really not a lot of people on the side of the show writers on this one that I've seen online, it's almost universal condemnation.

And here the largest supporter they have is GE, but again... he has a serious history of unconscious bias.
Nerd
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Re: Game of Thrones Season 8 *Spoilers*

Post by Azza » May 24, 2019, 3:18 pm

What a crappy finale.

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Post by The Rickman » May 24, 2019, 3:20 pm

Azza wrote:
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What a crappy finale.
Should've ended with Jon killing Dany and Drogon melting the iron throne.

Everything that happened after that was utter garbage.
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Post by Sid » May 24, 2019, 3:22 pm

Jon should've placed his Queen's body on the throne for Drogon to melt them both :hmmm
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Post by gangrenous » May 24, 2019, 6:51 pm

Drogon should have blasted Jon in anger and Jon be all like “I’m a Targ ****, you owe me a new cloak”. Then Drogon eats him.

Yeah... that’s how it should have gone

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gangrenous wrote:
May 24, 2019, 6:51 pm
Drogon should have blasted Jon in anger and Jon be all like “I’m a Targ ****, you owe me a new cloak”. Then Drogon eats him.

Yeah... that’s how it should have gone ImageImage
Big upgrade up the one we got though, so credit where it's due there!
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Post by gangrenous » May 24, 2019, 8:32 pm

Yeah, no plot holes and some Jon Snow nudity. My ending would have appeased the masses!

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Post by Botman » May 24, 2019, 8:50 pm

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May 24, 2019, 8:32 pm
Yeah, no plot holes and some Jon Snow nudity. My ending would have appeased the masses!
Some Snow EDIT is all i wanted if im being honest.
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Post by Sid » May 24, 2019, 9:15 pm

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Yeah, no plot holes and some Jon Snow nudity. My ending would have appeased the masses!
Some Snow EDIT is all i wanted if im being honest.
Ha. Now it looks worse Image
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Post by Botman » May 25, 2019, 9:35 am

So I was thinking... this might be the worst part of GoT

They send out the Dothraki in the long night, they get snuffed out a flame/man
Like the story was no one survived that charge

And then randomly half of them did survive, they multiplied only to have them go against their entire life philosophy and they weren’t even needed for the KL sacking!

Wouldnt it have just been better to commit to their wipe out? They brought them back, in ridiculous fashion only for them to not play any real role, the show could go exactly the same as it did without the Dothraki after the long night, just to have the resettled in Westeros?!?

I can’t stop thinking about how wildly **** dumb that is!
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Post by gangrenous » May 25, 2019, 9:48 am

It’s absolutely diabolical. Where were these bludgers when the wights stormed Winterfell?

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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » May 25, 2019, 11:07 am

PigRickman wrote:So I was thinking... this might be the worst part of GoT

They send out the Dothraki in the long night, they get snuffed out a flame/man
Like the story was no one survived that charge

And then randomly half of them did survive, they multiplied only to have them go against their entire life philosophy and they weren’t even needed for the KL sacking!

Wouldnt it have just been better to commit to their wipe out? They brought them back, in ridiculous fashion only for them to not play any real role, the show could go exactly the same as it did without the Dothraki after the long night, just to have the resettled in Westeros?!?

I can’t stop thinking about how wildly **** dumb that is!
Yeah I’ll give you that one. I didn’t buy the throwaway line that half of them stayed in Dragonstone.
They could have committed to them getting wiped out, and close off one of the big plot holes. They weren’t even needed in the battle for Kings Landing
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Meanwhile, I just finished the Telltale GoT game... my choices didn’t end too well hahaha
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Post by Dr Zaius » May 25, 2019, 12:31 pm

I'd have been fine with the ending if they had taken their time and reached those conclusions. I mean, they are not necessarily the endings that I would have chosen for those characters, but I don't get to decide. It was all to rushed. I read somewhere (maybe here) that GRRM originally wanted 13 seasons to tell his story. The DDs wanted 7. They compromised with 8, the last two of which where abridged. Says it all really. It's a shame because it put a dampener on what was otherwise a brilliant series.
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » May 25, 2019, 2:33 pm

The Rickman wrote:
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:Meanwhile, I just finished the Telltale GoT game... my choices didn’t end too well hahaha
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Yeah, but in the end I made some choices I was like “Man, should have went the other way.”

I played with cunning apparently, which is how 29% of the players did, so that was interesting.
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Post by Botman » May 26, 2019, 6:43 pm

Dr Zaius wrote:
May 25, 2019, 12:31 pm
I'd have been fine with the ending if they had taken their time and reached those conclusions. I mean, they are not necessarily the endings that I would have chosen for those characters, but I don't get to decide. It was all to rushed. I read somewhere (maybe here) that GRRM originally wanted 13 seasons to tell his story. The DDs wanted 7. They compromised with 8, the last two of which where abridged. Says it all really. It's a shame because it put a dampener on what was otherwise a brilliant series.
100% Mad Dany, Jon back to establish the Night's Watch, Queen Sansa, Bran on the Throne... that's all a perfectly fine ending, like you some of that is not how i saw it going but that all on the face of it makes sense... if you took the time to do it right. They just didnt because the DD's rushed it.

Still im going to miss this show, im going to miss thinking about it and theorising about it. It's been a great ride.
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » May 26, 2019, 10:15 pm

PigRickman wrote:Still im going to miss this show, im going to miss thinking about it and theorising about it. It's been a great ride.
What’s the next show you’re into now? I’ve just caught up on Chernobyl. It’s great, but you can’t really discuss and theories about it the way you can with GoT.
I’m doubting we’ll be covering off plot holes of a nuclear meltdown
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
May 26, 2019, 10:15 pm
PigRickman wrote:Still im going to miss this show, im going to miss thinking about it and theorising about it. It's been a great ride.
What’s the next show you’re into now? I’ve just caught up on Chernobyl. It’s great, but you can’t really discuss and theories about it the way you can with GoT.
I’m doubting we’ll be covering off plot holes of a nuclear meltdown
In terms of a reaction though, you won't get many bigger.

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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » May 26, 2019, 10:28 pm

BadnMean wrote:
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
May 26, 2019, 10:15 pm
PigRickman wrote:Still im going to miss this show, im going to miss thinking about it and theorising about it. It's been a great ride.
What’s the next show you’re into now? I’ve just caught up on Chernobyl. It’s great, but you can’t really discuss and theories about it the way you can with GoT.
I’m doubting we’ll be covering off plot holes of a nuclear meltdown
In terms of a reaction though, you won't get many bigger.
You’re fission for a laugh aren’t you?
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As a younger man isotope to do that, but not anymore.

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Post by Botman » May 27, 2019, 8:39 am

Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
May 26, 2019, 10:15 pm
PigRickman wrote:Still im going to miss this show, im going to miss thinking about it and theorising about it. It's been a great ride.
What’s the next show you’re into now? I’ve just caught up on Chernobyl. It’s great, but you can’t really discuss and theories about it the way you can with GoT.
I’m doubting we’ll be covering off plot holes of a nuclear meltdown
Yeah we just blasted through the the first three eps of Chernobyl too
Really **** great show

But yeah not quite the wide ranging story with character development haha
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I had never been up to date from around the end of season 5 up until the finale, so now that it's over I've been able to look up GoT related things without fear of spoilers and it's been great gaining a better understanding on the Targaryens, Dornes, Brandon Rivers, the Night King, Children of the Forrest, the actual Wars of the Roses, fan theories and even things from ages ago I'd forgotten about like Craster etc. to have a clearer idea on how the story ties together. Now that I understand it better it's left me wanting more and I know that spin offs are coming but spin offs are usually ****

Also been interesting to find out some of the foreshadowing
S7E4 When Arya and Brienne spar there's a moment where Arya loses needle and starts using the dagger.
Brienne grabs Arya's dagger holding arm so Arya switches it from one hand to the other, like she does against NK

That fight scene also shows lots of snippets from different influences who had molded orphan Arya
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » May 27, 2019, 1:56 pm

PigRickman wrote:
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
May 26, 2019, 10:15 pm
PigRickman wrote:Still im going to miss this show, im going to miss thinking about it and theorising about it. It's been a great ride.
What’s the next show you’re into now? I’ve just caught up on Chernobyl. It’s great, but you can’t really discuss and theories about it the way you can with GoT.
I’m doubting we’ll be covering off plot holes of a nuclear meltdown
Yeah we just blasted through the the first three eps of Chernobyl too
Really **** great show

But yeah not quite the wide ranging story with character development haha
Yeah I’m loving it too. I just watch scenes where they’re all “We need 3 people to go into that water and turn these taps off, otherwise 3/4 of Europe are going to die...”

Meanwhile I’m like “Well, I’ve been to these countries at risk, and they’re still there, so they must’ve done the job.”

These miners so far, they’re the MVP
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Post by Botman » May 27, 2019, 4:56 pm

Haha yeah it takes a little bit away from the story when you hear the stakes and you’re like “well that clearly didn’t happen so I guess they got it done?”
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