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Alright now, **** is on

This Euron stuff is going to get interesting.
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Intriguing story, predictable though.

I enjoy GoT, but let's be real.

It's typical in its mystique with the dragons and will Dany take westeros?

Cersei is a cow that bangs her brother.

Then there's the stark kids who are all incredibly boring.

Theon who is a grunting, bug eyed git who is only mildly less irritating than his butch, but ugly sister (oh, look she's in another girl on girl scene.....tell me is that the only reason she's here?)

Some fighting.
Some boobs.
A charismatic bad guy.
Some intellect with Olena, Tyrion and Varis.
The nice guys in Sam, onion knight and Jorah.

Oh, and Jon Snow. He knows nothing, apparently.

Can't wait to see next weeks episode.

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Ohhhh, the Nymeria tease was good. Really felt like were we getting payoff from season 1.

Yeah, Euron wiping the floor quickly changed everything. Dany's plans are crushed and she's about to be urged to the north by Jon.

Which makes me think, is Arya going to miss Jon?! At least she's going north now.
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I think arya will turn back south now
I think it was quite poignant that Nymeria wanted nothing of her
I suspect it makes her realises her path lies south
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I took it as Arya making peace with Nymeria's departure, and that's it.

While revenge lies in the south, family is clearly still stronger for her, and she will possess Littlefinger's dagger at some point.
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I think Baelish will die this season. He has clearly outlived his usefulness and is no longer capable of manipulating those around him. My guess is Sansa will kill him or play a role somehow, just to tie it all up in a neat little package.

He's just lost that intrigue for mine. I used to think he had it all figured out but now he's a shadow of himself from earlier seasons.

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dubby wrote:Intriguing story, predictable though.

I enjoy GoT, but let's be real.

It's typical in its mystique with the dragons and will Dany take westeros?

Cersei is a cow that bangs her brother.

Then there's the stark kids who are all incredibly boring.

Theon who is a grunting, bug eyed git who is only mildly less irritating than his butch, but ugly sister (oh, look she's in another girl on girl scene.....tell me is that the only reason she's here?)

Some fighting.
Some boobs.
A charismatic bad guy.
Some intellect with Olena, Tyrion and Varis.
The nice guys in Sam, onion knight and Jorah.

Oh, and Jon Snow. He knows nothing, apparently.

Can't wait to see next weeks episode.

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CJR wrote:I think Baelish will die this season. He has clearly outlived his usefulness and is no longer capable of manipulating those around him. My guess is Sansa will kill him or play a role somehow, just to tie it all up in a neat little package.

He's just lost that intrigue for mine. I used to think he had it all figured out but now he's a shadow of himself from earlier seasons.

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I doubt it actually. I think Littlefinger has a purpose still, and it's going to be big, and it's going to be a huge shock when we finally find out what it is... for better or worse
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Yeah I think littlefinger has one more HUGE move to play in the show before he's killed off
No idea what it is, but he'll leave his mark for sure

If he didn't have another move to make it's hard to see why they'd have reintroduced him as a player in this Ep
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The Nickman wrote:
dubby wrote:Intriguing story, predictable though.

I enjoy GoT, but let's be real.

It's typical in its mystique with the dragons and will Dany take westeros?

Cersei is a cow that bangs her brother.

Then there's the stark kids who are all incredibly boring.

Theon who is a grunting, bug eyed git who is only mildly less irritating than his butch, but ugly sister (oh, look she's in another girl on girl scene.....tell me is that the only reason she's here?)

Some fighting.
Some boobs.
A charismatic bad guy.
Some intellect with Olena, Tyrion and Varis.
The nice guys in Sam, onion knight and Jorah.

Oh, and Jon Snow. He knows nothing, apparently.

Can't wait to see next weeks episode.

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If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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EJ wrote:I took it as Arya making peace with Nymeria's departure, and that's it.

While revenge lies in the south, family is clearly still stronger for her, and she will possess Littlefinger's dagger at some point.
Reckon we will see Arya get in a bit of a pickle in her travels and will be saved by Nymeria's pack. Not the last we will see of her otherwise it's a pretty pointless scene.

....then again maybe it was Ed Sheeran in a dog suit so in that case every chance it was a pointless scene.
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dubby wrote:
The Nickman wrote:
dubby wrote:Intriguing story, predictable though.

I enjoy GoT, but let's be real.

It's typical in its mystique with the dragons and will Dany take westeros?

Cersei is a cow that bangs her brother.

Then there's the stark kids who are all incredibly boring.

Theon who is a grunting, bug eyed git who is only mildly less irritating than his butch, but ugly sister (oh, look she's in another girl on girl scene.....tell me is that the only reason she's here?)

Some fighting.
Some boobs.
A charismatic bad guy.
Some intellect with Olena, Tyrion and Varis.
The nice guys in Sam, onion knight and Jorah.

Oh, and Jon Snow. He knows nothing, apparently.

Can't wait to see next weeks episode.

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Melisandre kept her kit on this week. Bet you didn't see that one coming.
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Northern Raider wrote:
EJ wrote:I took it as Arya making peace with Nymeria's departure, and that's it.

While revenge lies in the south, family is clearly still stronger for her, and she will possess Littlefinger's dagger at some point.
Reckon we will see Arya get in a bit of a pickle in her travels and will be saved by Nymeria's pack. Not the last we will see of her otherwise it's a pretty pointless scene.

....then again maybe it was Ed Sheeran in a dog suit so in that case every chance it was a pointless scene.
Yeah, I think you're right. It's not like Nymeria could just ditch her pack.

Glad to see she's actually massive and doesn't look useless like all her siblings save for Ghost.
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Her and Ghost are the only two left alive aren't they?

Whatever happened to Shaggydog?
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He died mate
Karkstarks handed his head over to Bolton as proof that their prisoner was indeed Rickon

Edit: actually it was the umbers I think not the Karkstarks
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Ah, that's right. And Summer died in the north, didn't he?
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Northern Raider wrote:
dubby wrote:
The Nickman wrote:
dubby wrote:Intriguing story, predictable though.

I enjoy GoT, but let's be real.

It's typical in its mystique with the dragons and will Dany take westeros?

Cersei is a cow that bangs her brother.

Then there's the stark kids who are all incredibly boring.

Theon who is a grunting, bug eyed git who is only mildly less irritating than his butch, but ugly sister (oh, look she's in another girl on girl scene.....tell me is that the only reason she's here?)

Some fighting.
Some boobs.
A charismatic bad guy.
Some intellect with Olena, Tyrion and Varis.
The nice guys in Sam, onion knight and Jorah.

Oh, and Jon Snow. He knows nothing, apparently.

Can't wait to see next weeks episode.

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Yea, a shame really.

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The Nickman wrote:Ah, that's right. And Summer died in the north, didn't he?
Yep, he died in the Hold the Door Ep taking out whites to protect Bran
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Is Ghost still going round? Thought Ghost died too.
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gangrenous wrote:Is Ghost still going round? Thought Ghost died too.
Na he's still alive I think
No idea where he is though hah
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After we lost Summer and Shaggydog last season I did a quick direwolf headcount thinking only Ghost was left but realised Nymeria did the bolt in season 1 after attacking Joffrey. They 'executed' Sansa's wolf (Lady) instead. So the casualty list is:

Lady - killed because Nymeria attacked Joffrey
Grey Wind - Victim of the Red Wedding
Shaggydog - Umbers got him when they captured Rickon
Summer - killed by the undead army in the cave of the 3 Eyed Raven while Bran escaped (zombie Summer to return??)
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Pigman wrote:
gangrenous wrote:Is Ghost still going round? Thought Ghost died too.
Na he's still alive I think
No idea where he is though hah
He's just bludging around Winterfell while Jon argues with his sister (actually cousin)
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Lazy **** of a dog, he is
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For those book readers among you, GRRM provided some sort of update about Winds of Winter on his website blog yesterday. He wrote:

I am still working on it, I am still months away (how many? good question), I still have good days and bad days, and that's all I care to say. Whether WINDS or the first volume of FIRE AND BLOOD will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018... and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream...

Looks like 2018.....possibly, maybe. Bottom line is he's still nowhere near finished the story which gives me 2 major concerns.

1. He's been working on this story the best part of a decade now and still appears lost. You get the impression that he may have digressed a fair way off the original storyline hatched in the 90's. Now finds himself making it up as he goes.

2. He's pushing 70 and not the healthiest of physiques. The biological clock is ticking so I hope there's a contingency plan in place.
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Northern Raider wrote:2. He's pushing 70 and not the healthiest of physiques. The biological clock is ticking so I hope there's a contingency plan in place.
Im worried the contingency is that it ends with some guy waking up on a beach, sand blowing through his fingers, and realising it was all a dream.
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Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:2. He's pushing 70 and not the healthiest of physiques. The biological clock is ticking so I hope there's a contingency plan in place.
Im worried the contingency is that it ends with some guy waking up on a beach, sand blowing through his fingers, and realising it was all a dream.
The Night King and his walking dead are crossing the wall with combined armies of Westeros and 3 dragons waiting for them on the other side.....then he wakes up.
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Northern Raider wrote:For those book readers among you, GRRM provided some sort of update about Winds of Winter on his website blog yesterday. He wrote:

I am still working on it, I am still months away (how many? good question), I still have good days and bad days, and that's all I care to say. Whether WINDS or the first volume of FIRE AND BLOOD will be the first to hit the bookstores is hard to say at this juncture, but I do think you will have a Westeros book from me in 2018... and who knows, maybe two. A boy can dream...

Looks like 2018.....possibly, maybe. Bottom line is he's still nowhere near finished the story which gives me 2 major concerns.

1. He's been working on this story the best part of a decade now and still appears lost. You get the impression that he may have digressed a fair way off the original storyline hatched in the 90's. Now finds himself making it up as he goes.

2. He's pushing 70 and not the healthiest of physiques. The biological clock is ticking so I hope there's a contingency plan in place.
That's an interesting point, I was reading some stuff about the series recently, and apparently he said that in his original plan, Arya and Jon were supposed to fall in love, among other significant differences... glad THAT didn't happen!
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He has no pages guys
The book will never come
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Pigman wrote:He has no pages guys
The book will never come
Also from the blog:

I don't know which story is more absurd, the one that says the book is finished and I've been sitting on it for some nefarious reason, or the one that says I have no pages. Both 'reports' are equally false and equally moronic.

He finishes off by saying:

In your **** face, Pigman.
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I'll believe it when I **** see it!
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Pigman wrote:I'll believe it when I **** see it!
Are you talking about the book or the blog?

p.s. I may have made up the quote about Pigman.
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Haha the book!
I think he's released all the pages he's got, and he doesn't have anything else in store

I'm afraid we're just going to have to wait for him to die and for whoever he anoints to finish them (if anyone) before we see another book
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I think the thing many people are missing though is that he's not actually writing this book significantly slower than previous versions... the original Game of Thrones was published in 1996, over twenty years ago!

Book 4 took four years to complete and Book 5 took six years to complete, and this was all before the TV series... so far he's actually on track for Book 6, we're all just a little impatient because the show is spoiling all the major plotlines!!
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If he releases Book 6 this year it's taken him exactly the same amount of time as Book 5, and the books are all getting bigger.
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Kinda but no. First 3 books came out relatively quickly. Next one took 5 years. One after that 5 1/2 years. Both were delayed quite a long time too. If this one does actually come out end of next year it will be 7 1/2 years. The fact they are taking so long is what leads me to believe the plot has skewed a long way off the original course.
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