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Coming close to conclusion so safe to assume no more major characters will be introduced.

Question for the readers of the Song of Ice and Fire series. Which character written out of the TV series do you miss most?

I was kinda disappointed we never got to see Vargo Hoat and the Bloody Mummers.
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Northern Raider wrote:Coming close to conclusion so safe to assume no more major characters will be introduced.

Question for the readers of the Song of Ice and Fire series. Which character written out of the TV series do you miss most?

I was kinda disappointed we never got to see Vargo Hoat and the Bloody Mummers.
I'm disappointed they cut out the entire Lady Stoneheart plot line.

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Hard to say with Lady Stoneheart. Don't really know where that plot line was taking us. To be honest in the books I was a bit let down that Beric Dondarrion was replaced by a half rotting, cranky old woman who doesn't speak.
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For me it's the hidden dragon and Griff
To me that's way more interesting in terms of what It does for Varys character than anything
It makes his character make sense
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Pigman wrote:For me it's the hidden dragon and Griff
To me that's way more interesting in terms of what It does for Varys character than anything
It makes his character make sense
thats an interesting one as 'young Griff' is actually the rightful Targaryen heir to the Iron Throne. Its likely to be a major component of the books to come. To be fair that plot tangent would have made the TV series more complicated than necessary.
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Northern Raider wrote:
Pigman wrote:For me it's the hidden dragon and Griff
To me that's way more interesting in terms of what It does for Varys character than anything
It makes his character make sense
thats an interesting one as 'young Griff' is actually the rightful Targaryen heir to the Iron Throne. Its likely to be a major component of the books to come. To be fair that plot tangent would have made the TV series more complicated than necessary.
Yeah I understand why they didn't but I'd have liked it in there
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Would have saved Jorah from contracting Greyscale
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EJ wrote:He's probably also Bran the Builder, who built the Wall and Winterfell.
Yeah, that's also part of the fan theory I read.
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Pigman wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
Pigman wrote:For me it's the hidden dragon and Griff
To me that's way more interesting in terms of what It does for Varys character than anything
It makes his character make sense
thats an interesting one as 'young Griff' is actually the rightful Targaryen heir to the Iron Throne. Its likely to be a major component of the books to come. To be fair that plot tangent would have made the TV series more complicated than necessary.
Yeah I understand why they didn't but I'd have liked it in there
Yeah, I miss that whole plotline too... right now they've taken Storm's End (the seat of the Baratheons) in the books, haven't they?
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that's right
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Yeah, it's going to be interesting how that plays out in conjunction with what's going on in the TV series right now. Will the Lannisters still take Highgarden?? Who knows...
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Didn't really enjoy the books.

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The Nickman wrote:Yeah, it's going to be interesting how that plays out in conjunction with what's going on in the TV series right now. Will the Lannisters still take Highgarden?? Who knows...
I really really hope the books take a totally different road
I get that the ending will be the same but if the book can take a new road at least that'll keep the allure of maybe something different
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Northern Raider wrote:Coming close to conclusion so safe to assume no more major characters will be introduced.

Question for the readers of the Song of Ice and Fire series. Which character written out of the TV series do you miss most?

I was kinda disappointed we never got to see Vargo Hoat and the Bloody Mummers.
Wasn't vargo hoat the guy that chopped of Jamie's hand?

Arianne martell is the character I miss from the books. The books do a much better job of showing the dornish perspective
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the bone wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:Coming close to conclusion so safe to assume no more major characters will be introduced.

Question for the readers of the Song of Ice and Fire series. Which character written out of the TV series do you miss most?

I was kinda disappointed we never got to see Vargo Hoat and the Bloody Mummers.
Wasn't vargo hoat the guy that chopped of Jamie's hand?

Arianne martell is the character I miss from the books. The books do a much better job of showing the dornish perspective
Yes. He was substituted in the TV series for Locke. They covered off most of the key events at Harrenhal. Locke had a very different fate to Vargo Hoat however.
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dubby wrote:Didn't really enjoy the books.

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I was bored out of my brains after reading the first one.
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I've read most of the online dialogue post episode 3 and much comment has been about team Targaryen rapidly losing their allies with both Dorne and Highgarden now gone and the Unsullied stranded.

Question for me is what is the situation in Dorne? Elaria Sand was off to muster the army and march north prior to being intercepted and captured by Urine Greyjoy. Thing is the Dornish army still exists but nobody is leading them. Seems that all the Martells have been murdered and the Sandsnakes eliminated. WHo's now in charge down there and what role will they play?
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The leader of Dorne is still Price Doran isn't it? He hasn't died yet has he in the tv series

From memory he's old and sick or something, and opposed to going to war, but he may change his tune with what's happening.
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Oh no, he's dead. Forget that. No idea who's in charge
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Gunna say, you must have slept through the part where Elaria Sand put a knife in Prince Doran's chest. :)

Admittedly the TV series went down a completely different path with the activities in Dorne compared to the books.
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The Nickman wrote:Oh no, he's dead. Forget that. No idea who's in charge
Are you talking about Albi or Manbush?

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I'd say they are going to totally and completely forget about Dorne
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The show never pulled of any intrigue about Dorne to start with.

The best thing about Dorne got crushed in the Mountains' hands. And even that portrayal was an Inigo Montoya rip off.
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Yeah they've botched the entire Dorne side of things so I guess it makes sense to just cut the loses
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I guess they probably just didn't have the airtime to portray the Dorne storylines properly. Certainly nothing compared to the books.

Speaking of which, I started reading the books again last night. In the first few chapters I've ALREADY picked up things I never noticed previously.
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Yeah they've botched the entire Dorne side of things so I guess it makes sense to just cut the loses
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So... mad queen?

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Pretty full on episode this week. First time we've seen the Dothraki in all out combat mode. When they were thundering down the hill and the dragon came out of the clouds I think a bit of pee came out of me.

Now it seems both sides are going to be a bit short of food for the coming war. The Highgarden gold was delivered to Kings Landing though so the Lannisters have secured the support of the Iron Bank, which also implies the Golden Company may enter the fray.
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Northern Raider wrote:Pretty full on episode this week. First time we've seen the Dothraki in all out combat mode. When they were thundering down the hill and the dragon came out of the clouds I think a bit of pee came out of me.

Now it seems both sides are going to be a bit short of food for the coming war. The Highgarden gold was delivered to Kings Landing though so the Lannisters have secured the support of the Iron Bank, which also implies the Golden Company may enter the fray.
Where did they get the horses from though? Did I miss that?

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CJR wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:Pretty full on episode this week. First time we've seen the Dothraki in all out combat mode. When they were thundering down the hill and the dragon came out of the clouds I think a bit of pee came out of me.

Now it seems both sides are going to be a bit short of food for the coming war. The Highgarden gold was delivered to Kings Landing though so the Lannisters have secured the support of the Iron Bank, which also implies the Golden Company may enter the fray.
Where did they get the horses from though? Did I miss that?

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They shipped all the horses across with them. They made a point of showing the horses below deck in the closing scene of series 6.
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Northern Raider wrote:
CJR wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:Pretty full on episode this week. First time we've seen the Dothraki in all out combat mode. When they were thundering down the hill and the dragon came out of the clouds I think a bit of pee came out of me.

Now it seems both sides are going to be a bit short of food for the coming war. The Highgarden gold was delivered to Kings Landing though so the Lannisters have secured the support of the Iron Bank, which also implies the Golden Company may enter the fray.
Where did they get the horses from though? Did I miss that?

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They shipped all the horses across with them. They made a point of showing the horses below deck in the closing scene of series 6.
Yeah I missed that then.

I am a little conflicted that they spent 6 seasons building Danys story arc about not needing violence to win power and not becoming like her father and yet here she is burning people alive. It's only saved in my opinion if they go full mad queen with her. If she tries to go back to being reasonable after that it's just ridiculous

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Did you see the preview for episode 5 that followed?
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Northern Raider wrote:Did you see the preview for episode 5 that followed?
Bend the knee or die?

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Northern Raider wrote:Did you see the preview for episode 5 that followed?
Bend the knee or die?

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Yeah, basically offering mercy in return for fealty. She's been trotting out the "follow me or die" line for quite a while now to her perceived enemies. The exception is when she sees an oppressed minority, to which she wins loyalty through emancipation.
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Northern Raider wrote:
CJR wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:Did you see the preview for episode 5 that followed?
Bend the knee or die?

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Yeah, basically offering mercy in return for fealty. She's been trotting out the "follow me or die" line for quite a while now to her perceived enemies. The exception is when she sees an oppressed minority, to which she wins loyalty through emancipation.
True, though she kinda just blindsided the Lannister army without offering the choice of surrender. Not that they would have most likely but I guess in my head I had pictured her initially just attempting to intimidate everyone with the dragons and then move on to the fighting after being provoked. Instead she ends up having a couple of failed expeditions including getting the unsullied trapped and then straight into the live burning of the Lannisters.

Just seems like they're definitely building her up to make a drastic turn to a darker side. The preview with the part with Varys and Tyrion also seems to suggest they're not happy with her new direction either

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