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Northern Raider wrote:Haha, nobody is debating how she did it. It was just an incredibly clumsy scene with embarassing visuals.
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I’m watching the entire season of Love Island UK on Nine Now. This is some show! I’d say it’s better than The Last Jedi!
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gergreg wrote: November 24, 2019, 7:07 pm
Northern Raider wrote:Haha, nobody is debating how she did it. It was just an incredibly clumsy scene with embarassing visuals.
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greeneyed wrote: November 24, 2019, 7:17 pm I’m watching the entire season of Love Island UK on Nine Now. This is some show! I’d say it’s better than The Last Jedi!
Bar not set real high there
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The Last Jedi is the most awful piece of crap of all time, I could talk all day about how terrible it is and why... and once I get to work today I plan to.
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The Nickman wrote: November 25, 2019, 7:15 am The Last Jedi is the most awful piece of crap of all time, I could talk all day about how terrible it is and why... and once I get to work today I plan to.
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Maybe he is busy NR, it may be his turn to get the lunches.
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Dammit, I completely forgot about this! Give me a minute
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I mean, I could name any **** scene in this movie and tear it to absolute ****. For starters, the movie is completely full of plotholes, and they should NEVER have changed directors during a trilogy with NO CLEAR DIRECTION IN THE SERIES! Some of the more frustrating points for me (although there's plenty more and I'm more than happy to discuss any and all points raised):

- The single most frustrating thing was how Rian Johnson simply tore down everything JJ Abrams set-up and then handed him back his flaming pile of **** for episode IX. Who's Rey's parents?? Nobody. Who is Snoke?? Haha nobody, and he's dead now LOL. Knights of Ren? Nuh, they don't exist anymore. Who is the First Order? Why are they in charge? What's happened to the New Republic?? Were they simply those four planets that got wiped out in Force Awakens?? He literally answers NONE of these things!

- Rian Johnson completely assassinated the character of Luke Skywalker. He went from the most positive man in the galaxy (the man who sensed good in Darth Vader and wanted to save him AND his friends) to a pessimistic old idiot who tried to kill his own nephew because he sensed the dark side in him?? **** off.

- The whole "running out of fuel" storyline was set-up so we would have a prolonged space chase. You don't need fuel to maintain forward momentum in space! And even if you do, was the Rebel ship EXACTLY the same speed as the Empire's ship?? Otherwise, why don't they pull away?? Also, why didn't the Empire just light-speed ahead of them to intercept them? This whole plot was contrived to have the slowest chase in history and is SO stupid!

- If Admiral Purple Hair had told Poe (the man who destroyed the Super Death Star AND the Dreadnought!!) her plan rather than making it seem like she was clueless, the whole casino plot wouldn't have happened. The whole casino plot was entirely useless and contributed NOTHING to the storyline of the movie except give Finn and Rose something to do. The less said about Rose, the better.

- No actually, **** that, and **** Rose! Why did she stop Finn sacrificing himself for the greater good? It would've been the perfect character arc for a man who has spent the last two movies running from everything. They **** that up. Also, how the **** did the two of them get back to the base across the salt without getting wiped off the map? She said you can't win by sacrificing yourself for the people you love which is EXACTLY HOW HER SISTER DIED AND HER SISTER WAS A HERO. **** off, you twat.

- How does gravity work in space to drop bombs out of those stupid **** bombers we've never seen before onto the Dreadnought? What happened to X-Wings, which y'know, are established lore already.

- Can you now use ships to light-speed through other ships to destroy them? Why hasn't that ever happened before? Can't wait for them to expand on that in Episode IX. Hot tip: They **** won't.

- Force ghosts can use lightning now? Great, can't wait to see how THAT's going to play out in future episodes. HOT TIP: It'll never be used again.

- Leia's whole flying through space **** was **** ridiculous. She's never been trained in use of the force and she's now the most powerful force user in the cosmos?? Get absolutely ****. Luke Skywalker had to train with Yoda and even he wasn't ready to fight Darth Vader in Empire Strikes back. Now Leia can survive being blasted into space with no training?

- Speaking of character assassination, what about Chewbacca? What was his role in this whole movie? Hang out with porgs and Uber driver? He's a hero from the original trilogy! Disgusting writing of a fan favourite.

I could genuinely just go on and on and on... porgs? **** off, stupid little animals. This is easily the worst movie in the franchise, and Phantom Menace (the second worst) doesn't even come close.

I'll bet any money that a large portion of Episode IX is trying to undo all the garbage Last Jedi set into motion.
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You blokes focus on the plot and I'll focus on the shiney things and explosions.

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gergreg wrote: November 25, 2019, 12:52 pm You blokes focus on the plot and I'll focus on the shiney things and explosions.

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gergreg wrote: November 25, 2019, 12:52 pm You blokes focus on the plot and I'll focus on the shiney things and explosions.

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You see, I don't give the slightest **** about the shiny things or the explosions, it's the eighth movie in the main canon of Star Wars, possibly my favourite story of all time. And as such, I want story telling, I want world building and I want character development.

I don't want a steaming pile of horse **** served up and rubbed in my face. I know the prequels copped a lot of crap, but I enjoyed all of the prequels, they at least expanded on the universe, made it feel alive. The Last Jedi reduced the entire New Republic to some people on board three cruisers and the First Order to a couple of Star Destroyers chasing them through space at exactly the same speed.
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The Nickman wrote: November 25, 2019, 11:48 am I mean, I could name any **** scene in this movie and tear it to absolute ****. For starters, the movie is completely full of plotholes, and they should NEVER have changed directors during a trilogy with NO CLEAR DIRECTION IN THE SERIES! Some of the more frustrating points for me (although there's plenty more and I'm more than happy to discuss any and all points raised):

- The single most frustrating thing was how Rian Johnson simply tore down everything JJ Abrams set-up and then handed him back his flaming pile of **** for episode IX. Who's Rey's parents?? Nobody. Who is Snoke?? Haha nobody, and he's dead now LOL. Knights of Ren? Nuh, they don't exist anymore. Who is the First Order? Why are they in charge? What's happened to the New Republic?? Were they simply those four planets that got wiped out in Force Awakens?? He literally answers NONE of these things!

- Rian Johnson completely assassinated the character of Luke Skywalker. He went from the most positive man in the galaxy (the man who sensed good in Darth Vader and wanted to save him AND his friends) to a pessimistic old idiot who tried to kill his own nephew because he sensed the dark side in him?? **** off.

- The whole "running out of fuel" storyline was set-up so we would have a prolonged space chase. You don't need fuel to maintain forward momentum in space! And even if you do, was the Rebel ship EXACTLY the same speed as the Empire's ship?? Otherwise, why don't they pull away?? Also, why didn't the Empire just light-speed ahead of them to intercept them? This whole plot was contrived to have the slowest chase in history and is SO stupid!

- If Admiral Purple Hair had told Poe (the man who destroyed the Super Death Star AND the Dreadnought!!) her plan rather than making it seem like she was clueless, the whole casino plot wouldn't have happened. The whole casino plot was entirely useless and contributed NOTHING to the storyline of the movie except give Finn and Rose something to do. The less said about Rose, the better.

- No actually, **** that, and **** Rose! Why did she stop Finn sacrificing himself for the greater good? It would've been the perfect character arc for a man who has spent the last two movies running from everything. They **** that up. Also, how the **** did the two of them get back to the base across the salt without getting wiped off the map? She said you can't win by sacrificing yourself for the people you love which is EXACTLY HOW HER SISTER DIED AND HER SISTER WAS A HERO. **** off, you twat.

- How does gravity work in space to drop bombs out of those stupid **** bombers we've never seen before onto the Dreadnought? What happened to X-Wings, which y'know, are established lore already.

- Can you now use ships to light-speed through other ships to destroy them? Why hasn't that ever happened before? Can't wait for them to expand on that in Episode IX. Hot tip: They **** won't.

- Force ghosts can use lightning now? Great, can't wait to see how THAT's going to play out in future episodes. HOT TIP: It'll never be used again.

- Leia's whole flying through space **** was **** ridiculous. She's never been trained in use of the force and she's now the most powerful force user in the cosmos?? Get absolutely ****. Luke Skywalker had to train with Yoda and even he wasn't ready to fight Darth Vader in Empire Strikes back. Now Leia can survive being blasted into space with no training?

- Speaking of character assassination, what about Chewbacca? What was his role in this whole movie? Hang out with porgs and Uber driver? He's a hero from the original trilogy! Disgusting writing of a fan favourite.

I could genuinely just go on and on and on... porgs? **** off, stupid little animals. This is easily the worst movie in the franchise, and Phantom Menace (the second worst) doesn't even come close.

I'll bet any money that a large portion of Episode IX is trying to undo all the garbage Last Jedi set into motion.
Quality rant The Nickman. Much of it comes back to Rian Johnson's approach to the whole thing. In Episode VII we saw JJ Abrams pay much homage to the original trilogy (too much homage really). Rian Johnson then gave a massive 'haha, **** you' to just about everything established in episodes 1-7 with the sole exception of replicating the land assault on Hoth.
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Rian Johnson basically wiped his **** with everything Star Wars and said "screw you all, I'm doing my own thing." And he tore down everything JJ set-up in Episode VII in the process. How can you even write a trilogy like that??

I wasn't a massive fan of Force Awakens either, as it was just a rip-off of Star Wars, but at least it didn't **** on any of the original canon. Required more world-building though, like why have we reverted to the Empire (First Order) in charge with a new Resistance? Why do we even need a Resistance when there's a New Republic? How the **** did they fail to explain that? It's a MASSIVE shift from where we were at the end of Return of the Jedi.
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The Nickman wrote: November 25, 2019, 1:43 pm Rian Johnson basically wiped his **** with everything Star Wars and said "screw you all, I'm doing my own thing." And he tore down everything JJ set-up in Episode VII in the process. How can you even write a trilogy like that??

I wasn't a massive fan of Force Awakens either, as it was just a rip-off of Star Wars, but at least it didn't **** on any of the original canon. Required more world-building though, like why have we reverted to the Empire (First Order) in charge with a new Resistance? Why do we even need a Resistance when there's a New Republic? How the **** did they fail to explain that? It's a MASSIVE shift from where we were at the end of Return of the Jedi.
I think most were expecting a lot of questions raised by Ep VII to be covered in Ep VIII, as a good trilogy should. Instead we ended up with 2 conflicting story lines with very fuzzy connections. Its now up to Ep IX to explain away the mess and somehow tie it all back together then wrap up the entire saga. Good luck JJ.

...at least I can enjoy 'The Mandalorian' while awaiting the potential train wreck to hit cinemas.
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Northern Raider wrote: November 25, 2019, 1:53 pm
The Nickman wrote: November 25, 2019, 1:43 pm Rian Johnson basically wiped his **** with everything Star Wars and said "screw you all, I'm doing my own thing." And he tore down everything JJ set-up in Episode VII in the process. How can you even write a trilogy like that??

I wasn't a massive fan of Force Awakens either, as it was just a rip-off of Star Wars, but at least it didn't **** on any of the original canon. Required more world-building though, like why have we reverted to the Empire (First Order) in charge with a new Resistance? Why do we even need a Resistance when there's a New Republic? How the **** did they fail to explain that? It's a MASSIVE shift from where we were at the end of Return of the Jedi.
I think most were expecting a lot of questions raised by Ep VII to be covered in Ep VIII, as a good trilogy should. Instead we ended up with 2 conflicting story lines with very fuzzy connections. Its now up to Ep IX to explain away the mess and somehow tie it all back together then wrap up the entire saga. Good luck JJ.

...at least I can enjoy 'The Mandalorian' while awaiting the potential train wreck to hit cinemas.
Yeah, I was just talking to somebody at work about this... I fully expect the Mandalorian to cover the rise of the First Order and why exactly we are where we are at the start of Force Awakens. It's absolutely stupid that we ended up having to get there via this route, but it is what it is.

I'm also expecting Episode IX to be FAR superior to The Last Jedi, but that doesn't mean much. It's genuinely my least favourite movie of all time.
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I could genuinely just go on and on and on... porgs? **** off, stupid little animals. This is easily the worst movie in the franchise, and Phantom Menace (the second worst) doesn't even come close.
I hate TLJ but there was a reason for the Porgs. The island they were filming on had soo many native birds that would interfere with the shots they found it was only possible to CGI them into those monstrosities, rather than CGI them out.


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I could genuinely just go on and on and on... porgs? **** off, stupid little animals. This is easily the worst movie in the franchise, and Phantom Menace (the second worst) doesn't even come close.
I hate TLJ but there was a reason for the Porgs. The island they were filming on had soo many native birds that would interfere with the shots they found it was only possible to CGI them into those monstrosities, rather than CGI them out.


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Baby Yoda is apparently super-popular.
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Sterlk wrote: November 27, 2019, 7:56 pm Baby Yoda is apparently super-popular.
Yeah, all the girls at the Arvala-7 Cantina were throwing their knickers at him.
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Sterlk wrote: November 27, 2019, 7:56 pm Baby Yoda is apparently super-popular.
Just don't get him wet or feed him after midnight.
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So 58 episodes of Love Island UK later... and I have no Love Island left to watch!

There are four other seasons of Love Island Uk, but tragically, they are not on Nine Now...

I'd like to know what Botman and Mrs Botman thought of the series.

I'm not at all convinced that the winners were the correct winners.
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We're struggling a bit through Love Island.. it's not quite capturing us the way we thought it would. I think there is too many eps and not enough drama to sustain that many eps. Most of them are largely forgettable.

Pride and Prejudice has taken centre stage for now, we're finishing off it now. Then back into Love Island but it is feeling like a bit of a slog
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Love Island UK was eight weeks! It was a bit long for a reality show... particularly as they padded it with “Unseen Bits” episodes, but I could have it on while writing 2019 in review etc. Love Island Australia was much shorter and probably funnier. Some contestants deliberately sent themselves up, others delightfully oblivious to the ridiculousness of what they were saying. Love Island Australia was more fun... the UK show had more “drama”. There were some classic eps for the drama, but they could have compressed it.
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* cue topic change away from reality TV *

I've been getting through it very slowly, ever since it first came out a few months ago, but currently watching an episode of David Attenborough's Our Planet on Netflix.

I love these things. Keen for Seven Worlds One Planet, but refuse to watch from anything other than a 4K HDR disk on my OLED. The BBC nature docos are pretty much the only physical media I still buy.
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What is "Pride and Prejudice" on? Is it a new version?
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God, I hate the lot of you so much.

I just can't believe intelligent adults can watch such utter, utter ****.
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Anyway, while we're giving recommendations, we've now watched the first two seasons of Broadchurch, and it's absolutely gripping drama. Only 8 episodes of 45 minutes each so you tear through them pretty quickly.

We're onto the third and final now, should have that finished by Friday.
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The Nickman wrote:Anyway, while we're giving recommendations, we've now watched the first two seasons of Broadchurch, and it's absolutely gripping drama. Only 8 episodes of 45 minutes each so you tear through them pretty quickly.

We're onto the third and final now, should have that finished by Friday.
Broadchurch is a great series. If you like that, I’d recommend Happy Valley as well


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the bone wrote: December 2, 2019, 11:28 am
The Nickman wrote:Anyway, while we're giving recommendations, we've now watched the first two seasons of Broadchurch, and it's absolutely gripping drama. Only 8 episodes of 45 minutes each so you tear through them pretty quickly.

We're onto the third and final now, should have that finished by Friday.
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Ok great, thanks boner. We'll be looking for something new as soon as Broadchurch finishes!

Have you seen The Bridge??
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the bone wrote: December 2, 2019, 11:28 am
The Nickman wrote:Anyway, while we're giving recommendations, we've now watched the first two seasons of Broadchurch, and it's absolutely gripping drama. Only 8 episodes of 45 minutes each so you tear through them pretty quickly.

We're onto the third and final now, should have that finished by Friday.
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Ok great, thanks boner. We'll be looking for something new as soon as Broadchurch finishes!

Have you seen The Bridge??
Na I haven’t. That’s the one set in Sweden right? I’ve contemplated watching it a few times but haven’t taken it up yet... from memory I think I’ve been spooked by the length of the episodes... they’re an hour + aren’t they? Edit - I might be confusing the Bridge with Bordertown

Also, another one I’d recommend is Line of Duty


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the bone wrote: December 2, 2019, 12:44 pm
The Nickman wrote:
the bone wrote: December 2, 2019, 11:28 am
The Nickman wrote:Anyway, while we're giving recommendations, we've now watched the first two seasons of Broadchurch, and it's absolutely gripping drama. Only 8 episodes of 45 minutes each so you tear through them pretty quickly.

We're onto the third and final now, should have that finished by Friday.
Broadchurch is a great series. If you like that, I’d recommend Happy Valley as well


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Ok great, thanks boner. We'll be looking for something new as soon as Broadchurch finishes!

Have you seen The Bridge??
Na I haven’t. That’s the one set in Sweden right? I’ve contemplated watching it a few times but haven’t taken it up yet... from memory I think I’ve been spooked by the length of the episodes... they’re an hour + aren’t they? Edit - I might be confusing the Bridge with Bordertown

Also, another one I’d recommend is Line of Duty


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It's set in Sweden and Denmark. Has subtitles too, which I thought would bother us, but you honestly forget about them almost immediately.

Very gripping drama, if you liked Broadchurch, you'll LOVE The Bridge.
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