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Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 12:10 pm
by Mickey_Raider
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... irekeeper/

As I indicated earlier, this reporting reiterates and estimates that the JK program wasted approximately 10-20 billion on companies with soaring profits.

I do apologise. Earlier I extrapolated the data we did have and applied it across the whole program and came to a figure of 17 billion.

It could be 20 billion.

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 12:19 pm
by Mickey_Raider
Also the scandals rumble on.

We know from Frydenberg that Lamings conduct is unacceptable and he will be standing aside at the next federal election.

But we also infer that his conduct is not unacceptable enough to force an immediate by election in Bowman, as this could send the government into minority.

It just never ends with this mob.

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 12:20 pm
by The Nickman
Yeah, I can honestly see all of this stuff costing the Libs the next federal election.

And Frankly... I'm completely happy with that. If this is what it needs for culture change from the top down, then this is what Australia needs.

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 12:25 pm
by Mickey_Raider
The Nickman wrote: March 29, 2021, 12:20 pm Yeah, I can honestly see all of this stuff costing the Libs the next federal election.

And Frankly... I'm completely happy with that. If this is what it needs for culture change from the top down, then this is what Australia needs.
It is still going to be very close.

Like all elections, a seat by seat brawl.

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 8:19 pm
by -TW-
Would've thought you would have to be a decent human being to be elected to Parliament

Laming has disproved that theory

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Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 8:31 pm
by Botman
thats interesting, i would have never thought that. In fact my general thoughts are all these guys are **** incompetent or crooks. If they had an ounce of ability, they wouldnt be in politics... but it maybe im too cynical

being a good and decent person seems like a trait that excludes you from politics. There is a great harry potter quote about power that seems pretty relevant.

The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 9:02 pm
by gangrenous
Botman has the identified the horcrux of the issue. They’re all Weasley.

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 9:15 pm
by T_R
The Nickman wrote: March 29, 2021, 12:20 pm Yeah, I can honestly see all of this stuff costing the Libs the next federal election.

And Frankly... I'm completely happy with that. If this is what it needs for culture change from the top down, then this is what Australia needs.
It has certainly discounted an October election, anyway.

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 29, 2021, 9:41 pm
by Fuifui Bradbrad
Botman wrote:thats interesting, i would have never thought that. In fact my general thoughts are all these guys are **** incompetent or crooks. If they had an ounce of ability, they wouldnt be in politics... but it maybe im too cynical

being a good and decent person seems like a trait that excludes you from politics. There is a great harry potter quote about power that seems pretty relevant.
I’m waiting for KW to start moving up the ladder and sorting this mess out

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 30, 2021, 8:05 am
by Botman
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: March 29, 2021, 9:41 pm
Botman wrote:thats interesting, i would have never thought that. In fact my general thoughts are all these guys are **** incompetent or crooks. If they had an ounce of ability, they wouldnt be in politics... but it maybe im too cynical

being a good and decent person seems like a trait that excludes you from politics. There is a great harry potter quote about power that seems pretty relevant.
I’m waiting for KW to start moving up the ladder and sorting this mess out
I say it again, all these guys are **** incompetent or crooks. :D

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 30, 2021, 10:15 am
by The Nickman
Botman wrote: March 30, 2021, 8:05 am
Fuifui Bradbrad wrote: March 29, 2021, 9:41 pm
Botman wrote:thats interesting, i would have never thought that. In fact my general thoughts are all these guys are **** incompetent or crooks. If they had an ounce of ability, they wouldnt be in politics... but it maybe im too cynical

being a good and decent person seems like a trait that excludes you from politics. There is a great harry potter quote about power that seems pretty relevant.
I’m waiting for KW to start moving up the ladder and sorting this mess out
I say it again, all these guys are **** incompetent or crooks. :D
Lucky for KW he's both!

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 30, 2021, 11:41 am
by Northern Raider
I know a number of people who have gone into politics. They start with honourable intentions and end up corrupted by the processes. First casualty is their own moral code when they find out what is required to survive the party room and to keep their own seat.

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: March 30, 2021, 12:03 pm
by Botman
Northern Raider wrote: March 30, 2021, 11:41 am I know a number of people who have gone into politics. They start with honourable intentions and end up corrupted by the processes. First casualty is their own moral code when they find out what is required to survive the party room and to keep their own seat.
All jokes aside, it does genuinely seem this way
I dont know that anyone goes into the game with bad intentions but the nature of the job and what it takes to rise to the top of a party etc... i mean by the time they've gotten to that level, they're so used to the disloyalty and looking after their own personal interests and then interests of the party, very few are able to maintain that connection to why they got in the game to begin with

I've had a good old chuckle at the uproar about Morrison not sacking this dirtbag Andrew Laming... and i can sit here and completely agree the guy isnt **** fit to hold public office. But has any sitting party ever voluntarily sacked one of it's own members when it would plunge the sitting Govt into a minority?
Im not a political historian so if there is precedence I'm not aware of, I'm happy to be told this assumption is wrong, but i'd be surprised if that's every happened, on either side of the aisle.

Re: The Politics Thread 2021

Posted: April 6, 2021, 8:09 pm
by Mickey_Raider
https://theconversation.com/please-no-m ... ebt-158056

Another fantastic article, this time from the professor of economics at the University of Adelaide.

TL;DR: "The government does not need to increase taxes in order to increase spending, and it doesn’t even need to borrow. Its Reserve Bank issues currency for it all of the time, every day."