gangrenous wrote: ↑January 7, 2021, 11:22 am
afgtnk wrote: The Nickman wrote: ↑November 12, 2020, 10:22 pm
gangrenous wrote:I don’t think Trump has it in him to throw a coup or actively incite violence.
Chuck a hissy fit - yes. Not denounce someone if they do get violent - yes. But I just don’t think him actively leading anything violent is in him. I think he’ll tantrum to the very end, but ultimately will go.
Yeah, that’s pretty much exactly how I see it’ll play out too
I mean not that any of what we're saying matters, but probably best to just walk away at this point, eh?
For me, I stand by what you’ve quoted me saying. I think I’ve nailed what happened.
Trump is more than willing to bitch and moan and lie in ways that encourage people to do stupid, dangerous and highly illegal stuff. But he still sees himself as the good guy hero in all this, and to keep with that story he’s not going to cross into publicly calling for violence or a coup.
Think this is a bit more than just a tantrum.
He's tried to force election officials and state politicians to overturn results in his favour. We've heard one tape, **** knows how many other times he's attempted it.
Stacked parts of the defence institutions with loyalists right after the election, who no doubt would in turn stack them with their own loyalists further down the chain.
Used heavy war time, fighting rhetoric, fanning all the right flames, whilst stopping short of publicly inciting the violence - because he'd be incriminating himself, and he's generally too smart for that.
I would be very, very surprised if there aren't direct links between his people and the far-right groups. He'll give them a weak slap in public, to save face and his own behind above all. Behind closed doors, there is little doubt in my mind that they have his support in different shapes or forms, like possibly providing them with intelligence through his security apparatchik.