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The Nickman wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:37 pm
Manbush wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:32 pm On a positive note we’ll no longer have Nickman pretending he’s awesome at predicting elections.
Think you might've spoken too soon, old friend. Sleepy Joe clawing back up off the canvas here.

This one's a long way from over.
If you’re correct I’ll change my signature to sing your praise, that’s how little confidence I have.
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Manbush wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:42 pm
The Nickman wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:37 pm
Manbush wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:32 pm On a positive note we’ll no longer have Nickman pretending he’s awesome at predicting elections.
Think you might've spoken too soon, old friend. Sleepy Joe clawing back up off the canvas here.

This one's a long way from over.
If you’re correct I’ll change my signature to sing your praise, that’s how little confidence I have.
Sweet, looking forward to it.

As I type this, Sleepy Joe Biden back down to $2.20 on Sportsbet after blowing out to high 3s. This one's far from over, lads.
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The Nickman wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:37 pm
Manbush wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:32 pm On a positive note we’ll no longer have Nickman pretending he’s awesome at predicting elections.
Think you might've spoken too soon, old friend. Sleepy Joe clawing back up off the canvas here.

This one's a long way from over.
Especially when you consider the record turnout all voting for him.
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Very far from over, but you'd have to have Trump as fairly hot favourite at this point...a lot of Democrat hopes on the 'early vote'.
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Biden just spoke, saying he believes he's on track to win. But we need to count the votes.

I love election counts. I've had CNN on since last night. (I was aiming to get actual news and information, by watching the CNN coverage/ ;) )
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Trump just tweeted...

I will be making a statement tonight. A big WIN!

CNN saying that Trump is complaining that "they are trying to steal the election"... and Trump is trying to tell the networks not to project an Arizona win. Here's the tweet now...

"We are up BIG, but they are trying to STEAL the Election. We will never let them do it. Votes cannot be cast after the Polls are closed!"
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Hopefully the Democrats learn from the past two elections and stop putting up terrible **** candidates.
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Hahaha they're not winning Arizona.
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Biden tweet... and this is why Biden has some integrity, and Trump has none.

It's not my place or Donald Trump's place to declare the winner of this election. It's the voters' place.
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The Nickman wrote:
Manbush wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:32 pm On a positive note we’ll no longer have Nickman pretending he’s awesome at predicting elections.
Think you might've spoken too soon, old friend. Sleepy Joe clawing back up off the canvas here.

This one's a long way from over.
Win or lose you were wrong from here predicting a comfortable win.
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Northern Raider wrote: November 4, 2020, 1:00 pm Biden out to 3.75 now. I've had a little wager at that price. The trend is saying Trump but its still close.
You picked a good time to get on at that price!

This will be close. The postal votes will clearly heavily favour Biden due to Corona...and of course Trump being a complete ****.

Irrespective of the result, it just reiterates how volatile America is right now.
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rayden83 wrote: November 4, 2020, 8:28 am
Seiffert82 wrote: November 4, 2020, 6:48 am
rayden83 wrote: November 3, 2020, 7:24 pm
Seiffert82 wrote: November 3, 2020, 6:27 pm Quality banter Rayden, credit to you. :lol:

In all seriousness though, there have been some real characters in American politics over the years but Trump clearly takes the cake as the biggest **** of them all. Scarily this idiot has the nuclear codes at his fingertips, but thankfully the eyes of the world are sharply focussed on his antics.

Couldn't be bothered explaining why he's such a threat to global security and the welfare of your average American. Everyone other than Rayden have done a good job of that already.
Yeah the armchair experts on here have really nailed foreign policy. :roll:

The biggest threat to America is Biden is mistaking the nuclear button for the nurse button. He is worse than gaffe machine, he’s in the early stages of dementia, he will be lucky to see out a term.

What happened to all the doomsday predictions about Trump starting a nuclear war and ending the world? Instead he defeated Isis, withdrawn the military from the ME, tempered hostilities with NK, and negotiated several peace deals between Israel and Islamic countries. Can you imagine of Obama achieved any of this? He would be hailed as a saint, awarded Time person of the year and bombarded with Nobel Peace prizes. It’s a different standard for Democrats and Republicans.

The left cannot bring themselves to admit anything good or successful about Trump and his administration. He is a bad man and everything he does and says is bad. And if the does something good they’ll credit Obama for it. It’s both hilarious and sad at the same time. They don’t have any rational arguments against Trump so they resort to fake Russian scandals
or calling him names like racist and nazi, or sending out their lemmings in antifa to whip up racial hysteria.
Defeated ISIS did he? :lol: 90% of the work done against Islamic State was achieved under the previous administration. Thankfully the US military was able to secure a few extra towns in Iraq before Trump withdrew them. Who knows what will escalate in that area again in the near future, unfortunately the eyes of the world aren't focussed on that as they are now more concerned about the rapidly escalating situation between the US and China.

The North Korean situation is a poor example as he simply managed to temper hostilities that he created.

The peace deals between Israel and the Arab states were largely achieved on the back of military trade agreements with the US, so Trump has basically set up significantly worse conflicts between those countries in the future.

Anyway, your position is clear. I think it's misguided, but you are welcome to your views. I'm afraid his lies and false claims have got you hook, line and sinker. His approach is divisive and the chaos he has that country in is actually quite sad (and scary) to see.

I dearly hope his meanness, and personal greed don't win out. I'm quietly confident they won't.
Haaahah well isn’t that surprising, taking positives and turning them into negatives, or giving the credit elsewhere. It’s just what nasty leftists do, they cannot bring themselves to admit that Trump has done ANYTHING positive, so they’ll twist the facts to suit their Trump derangement, but I guess that understandable given the wall to wall negative anti Trump indoctrination, gaslighting and brainwashing for four years straight.

Trump’s “meaness”? :lol: Are you kidding? The left are the Kings of Mean. You cannot “come out” as a conservative these days, without severe damage to your reputation, employability, threats of being demonetised or outright cancelled. Free speech does not exist anymore, except on anonymous internet forums where you can hide your identity. Compared to the Left Trump is Mother Theresa.
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You'll be right mate. Just don't treat other people like **** and they'll respect you, even if you would happily vote for a complete ****.
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greeneyed wrote: November 4, 2020, 3:50 pm Trump just tweeted...

I will be making a statement tonight. A big WIN!

CNN saying that Trump is complaining that "they are trying to steal the election"... and Trump is trying to tell the networks not to project an Arizona win. Here's the tweet now...

"We are up BIG, but they are trying to STEAL the Election. We will never let them do it. Votes cannot be cast after the Polls are closed!"
Thankfully, Twitter has "flagged" that tweet saying it is misleading.
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gangrenous wrote: November 4, 2020, 4:10 pm
The Nickman wrote:
Manbush wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:32 pm On a positive note we’ll no longer have Nickman pretending he’s awesome at predicting elections.
Think you might've spoken too soon, old friend. Sleepy Joe clawing back up off the canvas here.

This one's a long way from over.
Win or lose you were wrong from here predicting a comfortable win.
Haha ok boomer
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I thought it was going to be closer than the polls suggested, but not this close. Lets see if the postals come through for Biden.

He certainly seems to think he's on track to win. This is going to take a while.
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Trump about to make a statement, it is 2am on the west coast of the USA. Looks like the result coming down to the "Blue Wall" States.
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The Nickman wrote:
gangrenous wrote: November 4, 2020, 4:10 pm
The Nickman wrote:
Manbush wrote: November 4, 2020, 2:32 pm On a positive note we’ll no longer have Nickman pretending he’s awesome at predicting elections.
Think you might've spoken too soon, old friend. Sleepy Joe clawing back up off the canvas here.

This one's a long way from over.
Win or lose you were wrong from here predicting a comfortable win.
Haha ok boomer
Good defence.
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when do the postal votes start coming through?
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Trump saying as far as he's concerned they've already won. They're going to the Supreme Court to stop the voting... perhaps even the voting count. Claiming there is a fraud.

Has falsely claimed victory.
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greeneyed wrote: November 4, 2020, 5:31 pm Trump saying as far as he's concerned they've already won. They're going to the Supreme Court to stop the voting... perhaps even the voting count. Claiming there is a fraud.

Has falsely claimed victory.
Except for Arizona. He wants them to finish the counting in Arizona.

You seriously couldn't make this **** up.
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Cheer up sleepy Joeeeeee....
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Biden really needs to win Pennsylvania, but is still almost 700,000 votes behind with about 3,000,000 to go. That's about 62% of the remaining votes required. On top of that, Biden needs to catch up 230,000 in Michigan with 855,000 to go, so about 64% of those remaining votes there.

I think the other remaining states are definitely Trump's.
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Biden’s just taken the lead in Wisconsin
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Seiffert82 wrote:Biden really needs to win Pennsylvania, but is still almost 700,000 votes behind with about 3,000,000 to go. That's about 62% of the remaining votes required. On top of that, Biden needs to catch up 230,000 in Michigan with 855,000 to go, so about 64% of those remaining votes there.

I think the other remaining states are definitely Trump's.
Georgia has a bit over 100k margin for 16 votes

With Nevada and Wisconsin, that's 270

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Manbush wrote:Biden’s just taken the lead in Wisconsin
Can Brown County swing it back to Trump?
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-TW- wrote: November 4, 2020, 8:01 pm
Seiffert82 wrote:Biden really needs to win Pennsylvania, but is still almost 700,000 votes behind with about 3,000,000 to go. That's about 62% of the remaining votes required. On top of that, Biden needs to catch up 230,000 in Michigan with 855,000 to go, so about 64% of those remaining votes there.

I think the other remaining states are definitely Trump's.
Georgia has a bit over 100k margin for 16 votes

With Nevada and Wisconsin, that's 270

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Yeah, it looks like Georgia has 102k margin with 300k votes to go. Could be close, with Biden needing nearly 70% of the remainder. Maybe a bridge too far. Dunno.

I stuffed up the Michigan numbers too. Biden now only 200k behind with about 920k votes to go, about 61% of remaining votes need to go to Biden. Similar percentage in Pennsylvania and North Carolina now. Possible that they are still finding and adding uncounted votes in many states.
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Neck and neck, with the predictions being that a Biden win looks most likely at this stage.
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Biden now only 67k behind in Michigan with 700k votes to count (he was previously 200k behind with 920k to count). Certainly trending in his favour.

Biden extending slender leads in both Wisconsin and Nevada. Still a chance to take Pennsylvania.

Taking Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada just gets Biden over the line.
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*yawn* has Biden won yet? Or do we have to wait until tomorrow?
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It's going to be a while.

I think I read somewhere before that if Wisconsin is within a 1% margin either candidate can request a recount - which you bet Trump will do.

It's not necessarily all down to that, though. My finger-in-the-air guess is that we're a 50/50 shot of either finding out tomorrow, or sticking it out for the long haul.
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Biden now 1.50
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Biden has won this, and with the beauty of hindsight, he’s led all day. He’s literally been in front since about the first hour of voting.

Trump did the same in 2016, led from pillar to post, never looked like losing.

Trump calling the election early when Biden was still winning and they were still counting half a dozen key states was absolutely ludicrous.

Biden could still win this by a fair margin here depending on how many states swing his way.
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Not buying it for fear of getting my hopes up. Anything can happen with Trump owning the courts.
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