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The Nickman wrote: March 23, 2020, 10:47 am I've been saying for a while now that schools should be shut already, and I stand by that. It's the easiest way to avoid community transmission, because everybody who's ever had a kid KNOWS those dirty little **** will spread the plague quicker than anything else. I understand the need to have health workers on the frontline, but if flattening the curve is the initial gameplan, still allowing kids to go to school now is going to prove to be absolutely disastrous in the next few weeks.
You've been saying a lot of things. It's about time the government recognised you as the preeminent authority on the topic. Send them an email offering your advisory services. I'm happy to provide a reference for you if needed.
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bonehead wrote:
Manbush wrote:On a positive note I’m now getting a seat on the train to work every morning, trains have about 10% of their normal passengers.
not for much longer in nsw, passenger trains will be stopped.

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Uber and Ola are licking their lips

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Just as long as they're not licking my lips.
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zim wrote: March 23, 2020, 12:53 pm Just as long as they're not licking my lips.
Why, what's wrong with your lips?
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Let's just say the new world regards certain currencies at a premium.
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**** the NRL, promote Peter Vlandys to PM.

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gergreg wrote: March 23, 2020, 10:41 am Yeah that's fair I guess. The real issue for me is that maybe that decision could have been made a week ago, with the provision of healthcare workers still having the option to keep their children in school if required. Now it's like we've done nothing about it for a week because of that issue - healthcare workers - and now we've completely flipped to the other end of the spectrum.

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Looks like NRL will be shutting down
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On a positive note, there has been an uptick to just over 90 in those who have recovered from Covid-19. Yes the numbers confirmed are going up way too fast, but at last there is firming evidence in Australia that the treatments are working.

Whichever body is responsible for allowing people confirmed with the virus off the Cruise Ship Ruby Princess in Sydney need a public boot where the sun don't shine. In this time of heightened awareness, for this to happen beggars belief.
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RedRaider wrote: March 23, 2020, 4:45 pm On a positive note, there has been an uptick to just over 90 in those who have recovered from Covid-19. Yes the numbers confirmed are going up way too fast, but at last there is firming evidence in Australia that the treatments are working.

Whichever body is responsible for allowing people confirmed with the virus off the Cruise Ship Ruby Princess in Sydney need a public boot where the sun don't shine. In this time of heightened awareness, for this to happen beggars belief.
Some more positive news is that Spain, Italy and France are all showing signs of slowing down their infection rate, while Germany definitely looks like it is. With less than 100 deaths, Germany really is the beacon of light, and comparisons between their health system and ours have been made before. Let's hope they're accurate.

But whatever you do, don't look at America. What's happening over there is rapidly evolving into something beyond a catastrophe.
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The Nickman wrote: March 23, 2020, 4:54 pm
RedRaider wrote: March 23, 2020, 4:45 pm On a positive note, there has been an uptick to just over 90 in those who have recovered from Covid-19. Yes the numbers confirmed are going up way too fast, but at last there is firming evidence in Australia that the treatments are working.

Whichever body is responsible for allowing people confirmed with the virus off the Cruise Ship Ruby Princess in Sydney need a public boot where the sun don't shine. In this time of heightened awareness, for this to happen beggars belief.
Some more positive news is that Spain, Italy and France are all showing signs of slowing down their infection rate, while Germany definitely looks like it is. With less than 100 deaths, Germany really is the beacon of light, and comparisons between their health system and ours have been made before. Let's hope they're accurate.

But whatever you do, don't look at America. What's happening over there is rapidly evolving into something beyond a catastrophe.
Indeed, states are in big trouble.

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The Nickman wrote: March 23, 2020, 4:54 pm
RedRaider wrote: March 23, 2020, 4:45 pm On a positive note, there has been an uptick to just over 90 in those who have recovered from Covid-19. Yes the numbers confirmed are going up way too fast, but at last there is firming evidence in Australia that the treatments are working.

Whichever body is responsible for allowing people confirmed with the virus off the Cruise Ship Ruby Princess in Sydney need a public boot where the sun don't shine. In this time of heightened awareness, for this to happen beggars belief.
Some more positive news is that Spain, Italy and France are all showing signs of slowing down their infection rate, while Germany definitely looks like it is. With less than 100 deaths, Germany really is the beacon of light, and comparisons between their health system and ours have been made before. Let's hope they're accurate.

But whatever you do, don't look at America. What's happening over there is rapidly evolving into something beyond a catastrophe.
Yep, real concerning whats going to happen in the USA.
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It will self destruct, there would be a serious fear that it just turns to complete anarchy

Their muppet president will have cost himself 4 more years by being so pig headed as well

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-TW- wrote:It will self destruct, there would be a serious fear that it just turns to complete anarchy

Their muppet president will have cost himself 4 more years by being so pig headed as well

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Luckily the average American doesn’t have access to lots of high power weapons or thing could get really crazy over there.

Oh wait.

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TGA has in the past few days approved half a dozen diagnostic tests. Some of them point of care (rapid)

Australian Financial Review reports that we have ordered half a million finger prick antibody tests, supposed to arrive this week. 96% sensitive at Day 5 when compared to the current PCR test. Could be a game changer.
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Dr Zaius wrote: March 23, 2020, 8:06 pm TGA has in the past few days approved half a dozen diagnostic tests. Some of them point of care (rapid)

Australian Financial Review reports that we have ordered half a million finger prick antibody tests, supposed to arrive this week. 96% sensitive at Day 5 when compared to the current PCR test. Could be a game changer.
That sounds good but forgive my ignorance on some terminology. What's a PCR test?
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Northern Raider wrote: March 23, 2020, 8:26 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: March 23, 2020, 8:06 pm TGA has in the past few days approved half a dozen diagnostic tests. Some of them point of care (rapid)

Australian Financial Review reports that we have ordered half a million finger prick antibody tests, supposed to arrive this week. 96% sensitive at Day 5 when compared to the current PCR test. Could be a game changer.
That sounds good but forgive my ignorance on some terminology. What's a PCR test?
Ha! Loser didn't know what a polymerase chain reaction test is! Obviously, and just off the top of my head, the PCR analysis is a laboratory technique. The purpose of PCR testing is to find small amounts of DNA in a sample, using a process known as amplification. During PCR amplification, the DNA of interest is copied repeatedly until there is enough of it for analysis and detection. I mean, this is basic stuff mate.
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T_R wrote:
Northern Raider wrote: March 23, 2020, 8:26 pm
Dr Zaius wrote: March 23, 2020, 8:06 pm TGA has in the past few days approved half a dozen diagnostic tests. Some of them point of care (rapid)

Australian Financial Review reports that we have ordered half a million finger prick antibody tests, supposed to arrive this week. 96% sensitive at Day 5 when compared to the current PCR test. Could be a game changer.
That sounds good but forgive my ignorance on some terminology. What's a PCR test?
Ha! Loser didn't know what a polymerase chain reaction test is! Obviously, and just off the top of my head, the PCR analysis is a laboratory technique. The purpose of PCR testing is to find small amounts of DNA in a sample, using a process known as amplification. During PCR amplification, the DNA of interest is copied repeatedly until there is enough of it for analysis and detection. I mean, this is basic stuff mate.
Pretty much. Small detail. Rona is an RNA virus.

PCR generally considered gold standard testing for infectious diseases.
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Blame Google. I've never heard of PCR and can hardly spell it.
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Had our first case in one of our schools today.

Today was a complete and utter pig **** of a **** show.
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Your kids school?

Lots of debate about closing the schools.

Experience overseas is that children can get it, but get it significantly less often than adults, don't seem to pass it between each other much (more likely to get it from an adult), and when they do get it, rarely have severe disease.

There has been quite a few cases at school lately, including Lyneham High.

Was this a teenager TR?
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Sorry, no, our English school in Sydney. Adult, not sure about age. Spanish lass, has been in Australia for months.

**** this. I'm not enjoying the apocalypse anywhere NEAR as much as I thought I would. There's a lot more paperwork than I would have imagined.
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And I hope everyone enjoyed my insightful article in The Australian today. "We're ****. Deeply, deeply **** "
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Think he's talking about his language schools.
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Northern Raider wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:03 pm Think he's talking about his language schools.
Former language schools. Currently potential indoor cricket centres.
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T_R wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:06 pm
Northern Raider wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:03 pm Think he's talking about his language schools.
Former language schools. Currently potential indoor cricket centres.
Is indoor cricket still a thing?
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Dr Zaius wrote:Image

Your kids school?

Lots of debate about closing the schools.

Experience overseas is that children can get it, but get it significantly less often than adults, don't seem to pass it between each other much (more likely to get it from an adult), and when they do get it, rarely have severe disease.

There has been quite a few cases at school lately, including Lyneham High.

Was this a teenager TR?
How have they worked that out? Given the test limitations, do they have enough testing on asymptomatic children to know how many are catching it and just not showing?
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Northern Raider wrote:
T_R wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:06 pm
Northern Raider wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:03 pm Think he's talking about his language schools.
Former language schools. Currently potential indoor cricket centres.
Is indoor cricket still a thing?
Not atm it's not

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Northern Raider wrote:
T_R wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:06 pm
Northern Raider wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:03 pm Think he's talking about his language schools.
Former language schools. Currently potential indoor cricket centres.
Is indoor cricket still a thing?
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Who wants to tell him?
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gangrenous wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Image

Your kids school?

Lots of debate about closing the schools.

Experience overseas is that children can get it, but get it significantly less often than adults, don't seem to pass it between each other much (more likely to get it from an adult), and when they do get it, rarely have severe disease.

There has been quite a few cases at school lately, including Lyneham High.

Was this a teenager TR?
How have they worked that out? Given the test limitations, do they have enough testing on asymptomatic children to know how many are catching it and just not showing?
Published studies from China
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This is an interesting read compared to the original SARS of 02/03

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lani ... 8/fulltext

Also has anyone figured out how the **** not to touch your face?

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Dr Zaius wrote:
gangrenous wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Image

Your kids school?

Lots of debate about closing the schools.

Experience overseas is that children can get it, but get it significantly less often than adults, don't seem to pass it between each other much (more likely to get it from an adult), and when they do get it, rarely have severe disease.

There has been quite a few cases at school lately, including Lyneham High.

Was this a teenager TR?
How have they worked that out? Given the test limitations, do they have enough testing on asymptomatic children to know how many are catching it and just not showing?
Published studies from China
But how have the Chinese researchers established that?
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With all the posts I might have missed this being added but this is an interesting list on who's working on what for treatment and vaccines:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/19/an- ... velopment/
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Dr Zaius wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:
T_R wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:06 pm
Northern Raider wrote: March 23, 2020, 9:03 pm Think he's talking about his language schools.
Former language schools. Currently potential indoor cricket centres.
Is indoor cricket still a thing?
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Who wants to tell him?
Oh, ****

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