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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 3:59 pm
by T_R
You won't make it till the coffee break

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 4:31 pm
by The Rickman
Haha me and you both, pal.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 5:19 pm
by T_R
You need to bone up on your Marx. The revolution will simply be a historical cycling between the proletariat and the industrial middle classes. I'll simply close the gates to the estate and perhaps ease up on birching the scullery maids for a bit.

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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 5:48 pm
by The Rickman
I honestly think you underestimate my ability to blend into the unwashed masses.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 6:31 pm
by T_R
The Rickman wrote:I honestly think you underestimate my ability to blend into the unwashed masses.
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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 7:42 pm
by Sterlk
LG OLEDs are going for $1800? Damn... if I didn't already have one I'd be all over that.

... and now to the reason I came here:

How about those dodgy apartment blocks in NSW, eh? A lot of red tape is there for a reason.

I don't understand the obsession with putting the free market up on a pedestal and leaving it to solve all the world's problems. Left to its own devices, the free market will bend you over and get rather violent, until you're curled up into a ball on the floor sobbing. Just ask all those bank and insurance customers.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 7:57 pm
by T_R

Sterlk wrote:LG OLEDs are going for $1800? Damn... if I didn't already have one I'd be all over that.

... and now to the reason I came here:

How about those dodgy apartment blocks in NSW, eh? A lot of red tape is there for a reason.
It's clearly not working



Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 8:07 pm
by PigRickman
T_R wrote:
June 20, 2019, 10:11 am
Brewdle wrote:
June 19, 2019, 3:44 pm
-PJ- wrote:
T_R wrote:
June 19, 2019, 2:31 pm
-TW- wrote:
June 8, 2019, 1:53 pm
That bloke is a Muppet

The economy isn't growing cause cost of living is growing and wages aren't, so people can't afford to go and buy a 55 inch TV like they could 5 years ago

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Do people still buy 55 inch TVs?
Hey..

My tv is only 55 inch..but I didn't buy it. It was a hand me down when my bro bought a monster..
I bought one for my gaming room a couple weeks ago from Bing Lee, $600 and used Afterpay so $150 a fortnight Image


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Well, there you go - I'm wrong. That may well be the first time ever in the Politics thread, now I think about it.
I got a $1200 unit very recently, its a very good quality TV but it's only 48in... my wife was VERY anti big screen and forbid me to go any bigger. She said she liked things smaller, which now in retrospect feels depressingly emasculating

The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 20, 2019, 8:27 pm
by gangrenous
T_R wrote:
Sterlk wrote: How about those dodgy apartment blocks in NSW, eh? A lot of red tape is there for a reason.
It's clearly not working
I believe Sterlk is objecting to the absence of red tape.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: June 26, 2019, 12:36 pm
by BJ
Transport Minister Fitzharris is quitting her ACT Government job, but I had to laugh at a post on ABC website.

“Maybe she couldn’t get to work on the new Bus network”

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: July 1, 2019, 8:53 pm
by Sterlk
gangrenous wrote:
June 20, 2019, 8:27 pm
T_R wrote:
Sterlk wrote: How about those dodgy apartment blocks in NSW, eh? A lot of red tape is there for a reason.
It's clearly not working
I believe Sterlk is objecting to the absence of red tape.
Yeah. Not that I'm an expert on NSW-specific stuff, but from what I saw governments in NSW have been doing the old "hey look at us, we're improving industry and the economy be removing 'unnecessary' restrictions" song and dance for years.

If a company is throwing up a $100m+ megastructure in a prime location that's going to be a fixture of a city likely for the remainder of our lifetimes, it just might be a good idea to require that the people involved are qualified, and have somebody independent check it out during construction to make sure important corners aren't being cut in the name of a quick buck.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: July 2, 2019, 10:07 am
by T_R
Sterlk wrote:
gangrenous wrote:
June 20, 2019, 8:27 pm
T_R wrote:
Sterlk wrote: How about those dodgy apartment blocks in NSW, eh? A lot of red tape is there for a reason.
It's clearly not working
I believe Sterlk is objecting to the absence of red tape.
Yeah. Not that I'm an expert on NSW-specific stuff, but from what I saw governments in NSW have been doing the old "hey look at us, we're improving industry and the economy be removing 'unnecessary' restrictions" song and dance for years.

If a company is throwing up a $100m+ megastructure in a prime location that's going to be a fixture of a city likely for the remainder of our lifetimes, it just might be a good idea to require that the people involved are qualified, and have somebody independent check it out during construction to make sure important corners aren't being cut in the name of a quick buck.
Are you suggesting that building certifiers are not qualified or independent? In my experience they are both, and can be an absolute frickin' pain about it.

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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: July 2, 2019, 4:08 pm
by Sterlk
I'm talking about stuff like this:
(I know, news.com.au, but still...)

A government insider has blamed dodgy tradesmen and declining standards for buildings “falling down around (people’s) ears” in NSW.

The comments come after residents were kicked out of their homes when cracks were discovered in two Sydney residential high-rises, Mascot Towers and Opal Tower.

The cause of the problems at Mascot Towers is still being investigated.

A NSW Government source told news.com.au the state’s construction industry was rife with tradesmen and builders who entered the workforce with inadequate training.

The source said a shift from local council building inspections to “in-house” inspections carried out by construction companies had eroded quality control.

He said the government “never” carried out inspections on worksites, at towers or homes.

The government source told news.com.au he was “not surprised” when Sydney’s residential Opal Tower began cracking, leading to the forced evacuation of residents on Christmas Eve last year.

The lack of funding to government departments that regulated tradesmen had led to the overall degradation of construction across the state, according to the source, who did not want to be named.

Builders and tradesmen were increasingly letting their licences lapse, some for periods of up to five years.

The government — pushed to cut red tape on anything that could hold up construction projects and pushed to meet consumer demand — had failed to detect and penalise unlicensed operators, he said.

The government has no protections in place to protect consumers from tradesmen with a “history of poor work”.

“These people are often working unsupervised,” the source told news.com.au. “Then, the people who are supposed to come out and check the walls, the slab — that could be that person’s cousin.”

The source described an established system of “sign-offs” on elements of a build that were not even seen by the foreman of certified tradesman, saying licensed overseers were often not on site.

He said unlicensed workers were often left on a site for days on end.

“We’re supposed to be so advanced as a society, but everything is just to cut corners,” he said.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: July 3, 2019, 10:41 am
by Manbush
So the government has announce they want to amend the marriage act again, obviously this time not with the public’s input.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: July 3, 2019, 10:43 am
by The Rickman
Manbush wrote:
July 3, 2019, 10:41 am
So the government has announce they want to amend the marriage act again, obviously this time not with the public’s input.
Go on, Manbush… locked in for this!

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: July 3, 2019, 12:01 pm
by Manbush
Morrison’s bringing it back despite it being rejected in 2017.
https://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/se ... d%22;rec=0

I’m guessing it’s part of their push for religious freedom laws despite the fact their own review found there was no threat to religious freedom.

On top of that their religious discrimination bill looks a way to allow behavior like Folaus which Morrison praised at the time.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: August 14, 2019, 5:26 pm
by beetlejuice
Now that im not gagged by my employment, im back and able to make political comment.

the Government will be doing quite a bit of this in the current parliament. Due to the nature of a 1 person majority, they will go back over all the topics and bills they struggled to get passed in the last parliament and will be happy to try their luck with a larger majority as well as a less hostile Senate.

Im hearing that they are looking at watering down laws that protect workers from unfair dismissal, but i have yet to see something more concrete then a whole bunch of facebook memes.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: August 14, 2019, 6:27 pm
by Fuifui Bradbrad
BEETLEJUICE!

I’ve missed you man! Motorsport thread hasn’t been the same without you


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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: August 20, 2019, 6:06 pm
by Fuifui Bradbrad
This article validates what you’re saying Beetle

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at ... 42748a0934


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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: August 20, 2019, 6:22 pm
by gangrenous
Everyone knows to address stagnant wage growth you start by making more space at the bottom of the pay scale.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: August 21, 2019, 9:52 am
by Manbush
Cardinal Pells appeal has failed. Wonder who will be the first right winger to come out and say how fine a man he is.

Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: August 21, 2019, 9:54 am
by Manbush
Stupid question

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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: August 21, 2019, 12:49 pm
by T_R
Manbush wrote:Stupid question

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Re: The Politics Thread 2019

Posted: August 28, 2019, 1:40 pm
by beetlejuice
the more mainstream (and i use that term VERY loosely) supporters of Pell have been VERY quiet. Nothing from Howard or Abbott as far as ive seen.