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I was never confident for Labor

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gangrenous wrote: May 18, 2019, 8:30 pm Looks pretty solidly Liberal doesn’t it?
But may not get the 76 seats necessary
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On the current call ALP won't win outright. Would need 24 of the 34 undecided.
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ABC has the LNP up 73-64 while Sky has them up 70-59. Shows differences in how they do early calls.
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It's almost worth another three years of putting up with the libs for another 3 years just to see the look on Shortens smug, punchable face when he concedes.
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Labor where paying 1.13 yesterday on ladbrokes when i checked. Amazing.
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Now for Plibersek
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Dr Zaius wrote: May 18, 2019, 9:41 pm Image Image Image
It's almost worth another three years of putting up with the libs for another 3 years just to see the look on Shortens smug, punchable face when he concedes.
My sentiments exactly. Need to take a something from a loss.
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gangrenous wrote:Now for Plibersek
Or Albo? I used to be a big fan of Plibersek, but I find her quite condescending now.
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Possibly, could see either.

Given this result you’d probably think Albo has a better chance in the marginal seats.
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Libs would have shat this in with Turnbull
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Plibersek and Wong trotting out multiple excuses but are light years away from the real reason they've lost.
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Northern Raider wrote: May 18, 2019, 9:54 pm Plibersek and Wong trotting out multiple excuses but are light years away from the real reason they've lost.
Making excuses and pointing their fingers in blame.
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Dr Zaius wrote:Libs would have shat this in with Turnbull
As I’ve said all along


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Like it or not, this election was lost on Shortens smugness, his high taxes and his ridiculous climate change agenda.


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If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Begbie wrote: May 18, 2019, 9:57 pm
Northern Raider wrote: May 18, 2019, 9:54 pm Plibersek and Wong trotting out multiple excuses but are light years away from the real reason they've lost.
Making excuses and pointing their fingers in blame.
Only have to point the finger in one direction. Pretty sure they know it but cannot say publicly. At least not at this stage.
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The Rickman wrote: May 18, 2019, 9:59 pm
Dr Zaius wrote:Libs would have shat this in with Turnbull
As I’ve said all along


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The Rickman wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:Libs would have shat this in with Turnbull
As I’ve said all along


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Looks like Palmer wasted his dough for nought at this stage of the count - according to Sky News.
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Begbie wrote:Looks like Palmer wasted his dough for nought at this stage of the count - according to Sky News.
Extremely satisfying that he won't win one seat.

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Geez even the panels are talking about policies in identify all these reasons for the pending result. This purely and simply a rejection of Bill Shorten as a prospective PM.
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Northern Raider wrote: May 18, 2019, 10:09 pm Geez even the panels are talking about policies in identify all these reasons for the pending result. This purely and simply a rejection of Bill Shorten as a prospective PM.
yeah, i think that's it too.
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dubby wrote:Like it or not, this election was lost on Shorten

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Northern Raider wrote:
The Rickman wrote: May 18, 2019, 9:59 pm
Dr Zaius wrote:Libs would have shat this in with Turnbull
As I’ve said all along


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Northern Raider wrote:Geez even the panels are talking about policies in identify all these reasons for the pending result. This purely and simply a rejection of Bill Shorten as a prospective PM.
I don't know. It would have been an easy decision for me to vote for the ALP if he wasn't so focused on taxing the crap out of self funded retirees. As much as I can't stand him, I was hoping for a clean out of the libs.
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the only policy take away ive seen made clear on this, is that the LIBS won in spite of their climate change policy... they'll need to review their policies on that for sure and certain... having Abbott out the **** door will probably help that?
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Having Abbott out the door will help a lot of things. Except Betoota source material
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Dr Zaius wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:Geez even the panels are talking about policies in identify all these reasons for the pending result. This purely and simply a rejection of Bill Shorten as a prospective PM.
I don't know. It would have been an easy decision for me to vote for the ALP if he wasn't so focused on taxing the crap out of self funded retirees. As much as I can't stand him, I was hoping for a clean out of the libs.
You've had one.

No Pine.
No Banks.
No Turnbull.
No Bishop.
Now, no more Abbott.

Now we'll have a somewhat stable, conservative Liberal party again and none of this left leaning idiocy that crept in.

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Ummmmm, somebody should tell dubby that none of those guys are “left leaning”


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Oh wait, Turnbull and Bishop were, but Abbot certainly wasn’t

And Turnbull and Bishop were certainly not the problem in the liberal party


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I think you'll find this new Liberal government is probably trending towards being more moderate than conservative, Dubs.
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Dubby just continues to have no idea about anything... why does he even bother commenting on stuff like this?


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