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The Politics Thread 2018

Post by Manbush » January 3, 2018, 8:29 am

So the inquiry into religious freedom isn’t going to be transparent following the churches lead of keeping things under wraps.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/ ... 0cbsf.html
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Post by Green eyed Mick » January 3, 2018, 6:13 pm

Who gives a ****? The 'No' side campaigned on religious freedom and they were soundly defeated. I can't see parliament legislating their recommendations.

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Post by Manbush » January 3, 2018, 7:22 pm

Inquiry filled with the religious, no transparency and a government controlled by the religious right, there was even an inquiry a year or two ago that said there was no issue with religious freedom which is being ignored, you have more faith in the government than I do.
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Post by Notaroboticfish » January 9, 2018, 9:48 am

So, today’s the day SSM becomes legal.

Surprisingly the world isn’t coming to an end, Dogs aren’t marrying cats and boys aren’t being forced to wear dresses. Who knew?


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Post by Manbush » January 9, 2018, 11:58 am

I don’t know mate Crusher is back that’s a pretty ominous sign!
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Post by Notaroboticfish » January 9, 2018, 12:08 pm

****, Bay was right. Let’s cancel this whole thing now!


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Re: The Politics Thread 2017

Post by The Vindicated » January 9, 2018, 1:36 pm

Manbush wrote:I don’t know mate Crusher is back that’s a pretty ominous sign!
http://youtu.be/3KJnnMBHOVQ
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Post by Green eyed Mick » January 9, 2018, 4:59 pm

Slipped two more places to 55th. Now behind Guam and Kazakhstan with our average internet speeds.

How low can we go?

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Re: The Politics Thread 2017

Post by Green eyed Mick » January 9, 2018, 7:48 pm



A fair bit of speculation Oprah may be thinking about entering the Democratic Primary. Not a bad opening speech if she is.

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Post by Manbush » January 9, 2018, 8:33 pm

Seeing so many memes of her with Weinstein on FB at the moment.
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Post by CJR » January 10, 2018, 5:42 am

Probably a good time for America to maybe stop voting television celebrities to office hey?


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Post by Northern Raider » January 10, 2018, 8:44 am

CJR wrote:Probably a good time for America to maybe stop voting television celebrities to office hey?
They set a precedent a long time ago.

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Post by CJR » January 10, 2018, 10:15 am

Northern Raider wrote:
CJR wrote:Probably a good time for America to maybe stop voting television celebrities to office hey?
They set a precedent a long time ago.

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Should have stopped back then.


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Post by Manbush » January 10, 2018, 1:59 pm

I’d like them to try a scientist next or if we’re just going for laughs like with Trump and Oprah try a solipsist.
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Post by The Vindicated » January 10, 2018, 4:00 pm

If the Democrats make the same mistake as they did in 2016 again in 2020 then they deserve to lose again. While she would have been slightly better than the joke of a president the US has now, Clinton was a terrible candidate who nobody really wanted. She's just an establishment authoritarian neoliberal right winger who doesn't represent the views of the left. On the other hand, Trump is an establishment corporate elitist neoliberal who's been fed by the silver spoon his entire life and is also socially a far right authoritarian extremist. See the problem yet? The American people are crying out for change. Trump managed to con some people into believing that he was that change, but he's just the latest in a long conga line of lying right wing politicians who promise to improve the lives of everyday people via trickle down economics. It never trickles down, it just pools at the top. The solution in 2020 is the same as it was back in 2016. His name is Bernie Sanders, the most popular politician in America right now. Will the Democrats learn from their disastrous mistake in 2016? Time will tell. Sooner or later, time will tell.

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Post by gergreg » January 10, 2018, 5:44 pm

Notaroboticfish wrote:Just for reference Image


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Post by Notaroboticfish » January 10, 2018, 6:54 pm

Real based off average Internet speeds
Source: https://www.speedtest.net/global-index (obviously the map is not talking about mobile connections)


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Post by The Rickman » January 11, 2018, 9:55 am

The Vindicated wrote:If the Democrats make the same mistake as they did in 2016 again in 2020 then they deserve to lose again. While she would have been slightly better than the joke of a president the US has now, Clinton was a terrible candidate who nobody really wanted. She's just an establishment authoritarian neoliberal right winger who doesn't represent the views of the left. On the other hand, Trump is an establishment corporate elitist neoliberal who's been fed by the silver spoon his entire life and is also socially a far right authoritarian extremist. See the problem yet? The American people are crying out for change. Trump managed to con some people into believing that he was that change, but he's just the latest in a long conga line of lying right wing politicians who promise to improve the lives of everyday people via trickle down economics. It never trickles down, it just pools at the top. The solution in 2020 is the same as it was back in 2016. His name is Bernie Sanders, the most popular politician in America right now. Will the Democrats learn from their disastrous mistake in 2016? Time will tell. Sooner or later, time will tell.
I agree with everything you said except for the word "slightly".

I would **** LOVE to see Bernie Sanders run in 2020, but I doubt it will ever happen. Maybe if Trump does something truly catastrophic that American people demand change, but otherwise, it'll be the status quo.
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Post by The Rickman » January 11, 2018, 9:57 am

Also, great to see countries like Iraq, Libya and Zimbabwe have faster internet speeds than us.
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Post by Northern Raider » January 11, 2018, 12:14 pm

That map doesn't correspond to the data on Speedtest Global Index. On first look G20 countries like Brazil, Mexico and Indonesia are all ranked below us but show up as green on that map. Australia is ranked 55th for fixed line, which isn't that impressive. Wonder where we would rank if everybody who had access to NBN was connected and on the fastest plan. I regularly get around 80Mbps which is top 10 ranked. Average speed would be around 50-60Mbps which is top 25. Its more than enough for the kids to stream Netflix on multiple devices while I'm gambling online or downloading porn.

Surprisingly Australia is ranked 7th for mobile internet speeds.
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Post by Manbush » January 11, 2018, 1:24 pm

The Nickman wrote:
I would **** LOVE to see Bernie Sanders run in 2020, but I doubt it will ever happen. Maybe if Trump does something truly catastrophic that American people demand change, but otherwise, it'll be the status quo.
Unfortunately Bernie’s time has passed, he’ll be 79 by the next election and I don’t think Americans are ready for him anyway. The government really did a number on the psyche of their culture with the communism fear during the Cold War, any program that helps the less fortunate is viewed as communist in nature so a big no no.
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Post by greeneyed » January 11, 2018, 2:23 pm

Unelectable in the USA.
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Northern Raider wrote:That map doesn't correspond to the data on Speedtest Global Index. On first look G20 countries like Brazil, Mexico and Indonesia are all ranked below us but show up as green on that map. Australia is ranked 55th for fixed line, which isn't that impressive. Wonder where we would rank if everybody who had access to NBN was connected and on the fastest plan. I regularly get around 80Mbps which is top 10 ranked. Average speed would be around 50-60Mbps which is top 25. Its more than enough for the kids to stream Netflix on multiple devices while I'm gambling online or downloading porn.

Surprisingly Australia is ranked 7th for mobile internet speeds.
Yeah, mine absolutely rips too, I'm pretty sure I'm often around 100mbps... I honestly can say I've never had a single drama with my NBN.
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Post by gangrenous » January 11, 2018, 5:01 pm

What technology you on Nickman?

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Post by Green eyed Mick » January 11, 2018, 5:06 pm

greeneyed wrote:Unelectable in the USA.
They said that about Trump.

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Post by T_R » January 11, 2018, 8:40 pm

Vindicated wants an 83 year old in the White House.

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Post by -TW- » January 11, 2018, 8:57 pm

T_R wrote:Vindicated wants an 83 year old in the White House.

Deary me.

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Post by Notaroboticfish » January 11, 2018, 9:44 pm

Article bringing attention to leftover discrimination in marriage, however this one is a state issue, rather than a federal one
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Post by Northern Raider » January 12, 2018, 8:45 am

Notaroboticfish wrote:Article bringing attention to leftover discrimination in marriage, however this one is a state issue, rather than a federal one
https://www.buzzfeed.com/lanesainty/aus ... .mxplENw4q


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Its a fair point but I'd imagine these types of flow on law changes will be adjusted over time. Just needs to be done without fanfare or debate. If it all happens in the background then nobody will even notice. If people start jumping up and down, waving signs then it will only reignite unnecessary public argument.
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Post by The Rickman » January 12, 2018, 11:00 am

gangrenous wrote:What technology you on Nickman?
**** if I know. TPG's "super fast" internet, which seems pretty bloody quick now!

As an indicator, an episode of Game of Thrones now takes about 8 mins to download, as opposed to about 50min with Telstra Bigpond before I switched over.
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Post by gangrenous » January 12, 2018, 11:38 am

Should be on the nbn site if you search your address.

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Post by -TW- » January 12, 2018, 11:43 am

Iinets vdsl2+ in Canberra is really good. I get at least 50 Mbps and we're currently 3kms from the exchange

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gangrenous wrote:Should be on the nbn site if you search your address.
Can you link me to the site?
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