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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Manbush » December 2, 2014, 9:24 am

Say what? How is that the governments fault, shouldn't we be taking Islam to task over their child brides?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Manbush » December 2, 2014, 10:45 am

Anyone know if this is genuine or a pisstake?

http://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncatego ... community/
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Toviii » December 2, 2014, 10:47 am

It's a satirical website.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » December 2, 2014, 10:51 am

Putting that story about Waters on the front page is the ultimate distraction game plan for News Ltd and their mate Mr. 33%..

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Post by Manbush » December 2, 2014, 10:52 am

Toviii wrote:It's a satirical website.
:lol:

Thought it smelt fishy.
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Re: The Politics Thread

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Green eyed Mick » December 2, 2014, 3:28 pm

Manbush wrote:Say what? How is that the governments fault, shouldn't we be taking Islam to task over their child brides?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-02/n ... ed/5932622

FTR Child brides are a cultural problem not a religious problem.

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Post by Manbush » December 2, 2014, 5:54 pm

"Islamic Council of New South Wales chairman Khaled Sukkerieh said while he does not know about the case, any alleged act is illegal and against the Muslim faith.

"Islamically (sic) that's not acceptable and we don't know anything about the case, but on the face of it a nine-year-old hasn't got the mental capacity or the age to marry herself off or to consent to a marriage," he said."



He should really read about his prophet. :lol:

Cultural, religious, can be one of the same when a culture is based on a religion. When the prophet of your religion marries a 6year old it kinda points to it being ok if you're a fundamentalist.
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Post by Schifty » December 5, 2014, 10:38 am

That's disgraceful but not surprising at all.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by The Rickman » December 5, 2014, 10:42 am

I'm surprised Manbush missed his calling as a Catholic priest to be honest.
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Post by Toviii » December 5, 2014, 10:43 am

Just wondering, do these religious colleges pay taxes?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Manbush » December 5, 2014, 11:06 am

Green eyed Mick wrote:http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal ... 20a3c.html

Did you vote for this MB?
Think I'd find it even more disgraceful than you do mate, I'm against the public funding any religion without the choice to refuse.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » December 5, 2014, 12:51 pm

David Leyonhjelm told Bill Heffernan to **** off after he called him a terrorist for saying MPs should actually be allowed to think fro themselves and vote on the marriage equality bill :lol:

Well played to him!

Oh and ACT will have a new chief minister in Andrew Barr after katy Gallagher announced she is running for senate

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » December 5, 2014, 8:21 pm

So in response to Target withrdrawing GTA for violence against women this petition has sprung up.

Withdraw The Holy Bible – this sickening book encourages readers to commit sexual violence and kill women

https://www.change.org/p/target-withdra ... kill-women

*signed*

20,000 signatures in 24 hours :)

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:lol:
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Post by Dr Zaius » December 6, 2014, 10:27 am

Green eyed Mick wrote:http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal ... 20a3c.html

Did you vote for this MB?
Wow, that is poor.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » December 7, 2014, 7:57 pm

Impeaching Australia's George W Bush

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinio ... 23894.html

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Green eyed Mick » December 11, 2014, 7:00 am

A good read....

Abbott is a convenient scapegoat, but it is no good trying to pretend that we didn't elect him, or his predecessors. We are the ones who are choosing the governments, and the political types, that we deserve. We are the mugs who willingly suspended disbelief when told things that, with hindsight, were simply incredible.

The disillusion of Australians with politics, exemplified in the current comic-opera Senate house, is in fact a symptom of a deeper malaise. A nation that has lost its way. A people who, basking in wealth for which few of them had to work, have simply lost the knack of making it or of sharing it even relatively equitably.

There's no easy or polite way to put this, so I'll just say it anyway: Australians today are too intellectually lazy, too politically incompetent and too commercially gutless to be front runners in what is becoming one of the world's most spectacular boom industries: renewable energy.

We have brilliant scientists and engineers who put us at the very forefront, technologically speaking – while the rest of us are mostly slumped in our armchairs, swilling booze and trying to catch type 2 diabetes from fast food. Spectators, rather than participants, in the human race. Spectators with strongly held opinions about everything, and bugger-all facts. Are you amazed that we choose politicians who resemble us?

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment ... 22ikf.html

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by T_R » December 11, 2014, 7:13 am

Actually, I increasingly think the problem is that we look to our politicians as leaders rather than managers, which is what they've become.
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You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Manbush » December 11, 2014, 7:49 am

Problem is GEM all politicians are the same, full of **** lying mother ****.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Green eyed Mick » December 11, 2014, 8:28 am

Manbush wrote:Problem is GEM all politicians are the same, full of **** lying mother ****.
Politicians lie because people believe them when they do.

This is a perfect example of the simple lies politicians get away with because they can.

In response to the governments plans to block access to sites that might facilitate copyright breeches

"This is not, repeat, not an internet filter," Turnbull said when asked if it contradicted the Coalition's policy of not supporting an internet filter.

"There's no internet filter here at all. What on earth are you talking about?"

It was "nonsense" and "complete BS" to suggest blocking websites was a filter, he said.
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Post by T_R » December 11, 2014, 8:35 am

I wonder. I don't know anyone who actually believed Abbott's PPL scheme would ever see the light of day
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You want moderation because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that forum -- you need me on that forum. We use words like "stay on topic," "use the appropriate forum," "please delete." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very moderation that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you get a green handle and edit a post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think about moderation.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Manbush » December 11, 2014, 8:38 am

Green eyed Mick wrote:
Manbush wrote:Problem is GEM all politicians are the same, full of **** lying mother ****.
Politicians lie because people believe them when they do.
Yes and no, we want to believe but deep down we all know they're just saying whatever it takes to get elected, we just hope they keep some of their promises. Guessing it's been like that since the birth of democracy.
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Post by Toviii » December 11, 2014, 9:48 am

I don't think many people trust politicians at all.
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Green eyed Mick wrote:A good read....

Abbott is a convenient scapegoat, but it is no good trying to pretend that we didn't elect him, or his predecessors. We are the ones who are choosing the governments, and the political types, that we deserve. We are the mugs who willingly suspended disbelief when told things that, with hindsight, were simply incredible.

The disillusion of Australians with politics, exemplified in the current comic-opera Senate house, is in fact a symptom of a deeper malaise. A nation that has lost its way. A people who, basking in wealth for which few of them had to work, have simply lost the knack of making it or of sharing it even relatively equitably.

There's no easy or polite way to put this, so I'll just say it anyway: Australians today are too intellectually lazy, too politically incompetent and too commercially gutless to be front runners in what is becoming one of the world's most spectacular boom industries: renewable energy.

We have brilliant scientists and engineers who put us at the very forefront, technologically speaking – while the rest of us are mostly slumped in our armchairs, swilling booze and trying to catch type 2 diabetes from fast food. Spectators, rather than participants, in the human race. Spectators with strongly held opinions about everything, and bugger-all facts. Are you amazed that we choose politicians who resemble us?

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment ... 22ikf.html
Unfortunately, this is pretty much how I feel about our society now.

We're fat, lazy, overpaid and self-entitled, myself included.
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Post by papabear » December 11, 2014, 12:09 pm

I did, not in the same form, but I figured a watered down version of it should get through.

Otherwise he was voted in on absolutely nothing... It was the only substantive change he was offering.

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The Nickman wrote:
Green eyed Mick wrote:A good read....

Abbott is a convenient scapegoat, but it is no good trying to pretend that we didn't elect him, or his predecessors. We are the ones who are choosing the governments, and the political types, that we deserve. We are the mugs who willingly suspended disbelief when told things that, with hindsight, were simply incredible.

The disillusion of Australians with politics, exemplified in the current comic-opera Senate house, is in fact a symptom of a deeper malaise. A nation that has lost its way. A people who, basking in wealth for which few of them had to work, have simply lost the knack of making it or of sharing it even relatively equitably.

There's no easy or polite way to put this, so I'll just say it anyway: Australians today are too intellectually lazy, too politically incompetent and too commercially gutless to be front runners in what is becoming one of the world's most spectacular boom industries: renewable energy.

We have brilliant scientists and engineers who put us at the very forefront, technologically speaking – while the rest of us are mostly slumped in our armchairs, swilling booze and trying to catch type 2 diabetes from fast food. Spectators, rather than participants, in the human race. Spectators with strongly held opinions about everything, and bugger-all facts. Are you amazed that we choose politicians who resemble us?

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment ... 22ikf.html
Unfortunately, this is pretty much how I feel about our society now.

We're fat, lazy, overpaid and self-entitled, myself included.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Manbush » December 11, 2014, 1:04 pm

The Nickman wrote:[l
.We're fat, lazy, overpaid and self-entitled, myself included.
Speak for yourself, I may be fat and lazy but not over paid or self-entitled.
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Post by The Rickman » December 11, 2014, 1:06 pm

There's no way I'm a sponge, I pay more tax than most people earn. Sponges are the likes of GeM's mates who expect the Government to pay for everything for them.
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Post by The Rickman » December 11, 2014, 1:07 pm

Manbush wrote:
The Nickman wrote:[l
.We're fat, lazy, overpaid and self-entitled, myself included.
Speak for yourself, I may be fat and lazy but not over paid or self-entitled.
... and a creep, and a pedo, but I am NOT a pornstar!
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Post by Manbush » December 11, 2014, 1:12 pm

Not professional anyway
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Post by T_R » December 11, 2014, 3:31 pm

The Nickman wrote:There's no way I'm a sponge, I pay more tax than most people earn. Sponges are the likes of GeM's mates who expect the Government to pay for everything for them.
You see, that's where you fall down.

According to GEM earlier this week, it makes no difference what you pay, it's how much you take out that defines you as a leech.

His level of financial understanding also explains why he thinks Greens policies are a good idea.
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Post by The Rickman » December 11, 2014, 3:47 pm

I just have no idea how the Left expects us all to live in this Utopian society where the Government pays for everything.
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