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Don't get me wrong, I'm not particularly against clubs shutting earlier (from a purely selfish point of view, I hate it when you arrange to hit the town and everyone sits around pre-gaming until like 11pm, that **** me - I'd rather start at 5 or 6 and pack it in at 2am), but I am concerned that this will go the same way as the 'war' on drugs, which is just an attempt to criminalize and restrict the behaviour and movement of individuals without any attempt to actually address the underlying problem. From what I understand, purely time-frames, every single person who's been in the news lately for being the poor sod knocked senseless by some scumbag would have suffered the same fate under the new laws.
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Is it true that Packer and his casino is exempt from the rule?

So while people can no longer able to enter a new club they are free to walk in a spend the cash in his casino which will be one of the few places 'open'?
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Schifty wrote:Is it true that Packer and his casino is exempt from the rule?

So while people can no longer able to enter a new club they are free to walk in a spend the cash in his casino which will be one of the few places 'open'?
That's the way it's been in Brisbane since the lockout started years ago, the Casino is the only place exampl from the 3am lockout. Considering the problem of gambling its a bit strange.
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On the topic of the sticky icky (and without bothering to research, sorry,) wouldn't the respiratory complications and cancers associated with the mouth, throat and lungs be non-existent if you vaporised or consumed edibles? Doc?
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They would be healthier methods of using but all the things you mentioned are debatable issues anyway, it's been used as a bronchodilator for centuries and help fight cancers, one of the major problems is cost meaning people "spin" with tobacco which causes all those issues smoked by itself.

Cancer (links to 20 cancer research included)
http://www.collective-evolution.com/201 ... re-cancer/
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In my home town in Wagga they introduced the same rules re lockouts and closing times about 10 years ago.

Whilst the instances of assaults have gone down, people just get absolutely hammered earlier in the night. Come 1-2 it's a free for all everyone drinking as much as possible.
Well, at least Jack got paid.
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These lockouts won't have much of an effect on the groups of bros who start drinking at 10am in the morning.
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Jake wrote:These lockouts won't have much of an effect on the groups of bros who start drinking at 10am in the morning.
Hey! That's enough, I'm sick of you blokes picking on Nickman.
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Apparently Nickman now drinks between 12 and 12. I think I recall reading that.
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Shezza wrote:Apparently Nickman now drinks between 12 and 12. I think I recall reading that.
On non-holidays. Anything that's more than a two-day weekend is still open slather.
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The Drinkman.
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http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-barry ... 317nz.html

Fairly hard to argue with any of that.
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Michael wrote:http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-barry ... 317nz.html

Fairly hard to argue with any of that.
Wow. That is just awful.
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The Nickman wrote:
Michael wrote:http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-barry ... 317nz.html

Fairly hard to argue with any of that.
Wow. That is just awful.
The article, or the laws?
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The laws.
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Don't throw a punch and you've got nothing to worry about.
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The Nickman wrote:The laws.
What don't you like about them mate?
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Shadow Boxer wrote:Don't throw a punch and you've got nothing to worry about.
Don't be a **** child. What a stupid response. I've never thrown a punch in my life, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be concerned with these laws.

I'm more concerned with the fact that it is now legally far, far worse to throw a single punch while drunk on Oxford Street than it is to throw a flurry of punches 10m away in Surry Hills whilst completely sober. Almost none of this legislation makes a single bit of sense.
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Michael wrote:
Shadow Boxer wrote:Don't throw a punch and you've got nothing to worry about.
Don't be a **** child. What a stupid response. I've never thrown a punch in my life, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be concerned with these laws.

I'm more concerned with the fact that it is now legally far, far worse to throw a single punch while drunk on Oxford Street than it is to throw a flurry of punches 10m away in Surry Hills whilst completely sober. Almost none of this legislation makes a single bit of sense.
lol, i was being sarcastic, they are as stupid as the bikie association laws in QLD, they will do nothing to fix the problem.
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In that case, I unreservedly apologise!
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No need, easy to read that way, the internet needs a sarcasm emoticon.
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Shadow Boxer wrote:No need, easy to read that way, the internet needs a sarcasm emoticon.
And considering I can't read your message in a sarcastic context, you may need to look up sarcasm in the dictionary.

Or I may have to, one of the two.
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What is the word at the top of that article, Schifty?? Was this written by affkfkturtjtk??
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If he secretly runs this website then yes!

http://www.aktifmag.com/

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Nice work, afgthfifngjfhdgs
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http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaki ... 31lth.html

A little ironic Tony Abbott going on 2GB to complain about another media organisation not 'sticking to the news' and 'not supporting the home team'
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Green eyed Mick wrote:http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaki ... 31lth.html

A little ironic Tony Abbott going on 2GB to complain about another media organisation not 'sticking to the news' and 'not supporting the home team'
Yeah, you should get outraged about that.

Also, you forgot the :doubt: symbol. Please edit and resubmit.
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T_R wrote: Also, you forgot the :doubt: symbol. Please edit and resubmit.
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T_R wrote:
Green eyed Mick wrote:http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaki ... 31lth.html

A little ironic Tony Abbott going on 2GB to complain about another media organisation not 'sticking to the news' and 'not supporting the home team'
Yeah, you should get outraged about that.

Also, you forgot the :doubt: symbol. Please edit and resubmit.
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Nice little "hey, look over there" from Abbott.
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Here's an article on a subject that we're going to see much more of in the next couple of years. Interesting read:

The trouble with trade unions

Jeez, you’d have to really hate being a union rep right about now. Seemingly everywhere you look there are examples of how the union movement’s relevance is plummeting, while its questionable behaviour is ramping up. Just in case you haven’t noticed, here’s a selection:

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/small-b ... z2s21qtQLH
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Get ready for GEMs outrage :lol:
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Why would I be outraged? Corruption is corruption and the rank and file suffer far more than the outraged right wing hacks when corrupt union officials misuse member contributions.
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Certainly doesn't stop the Greens accepting election donations from those corrupt officials, though.
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