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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by T_R » November 24, 2015, 8:18 pm

God. That's deep.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 24, 2015, 8:20 pm

T_R wrote:God. That's deep.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by T_R » November 24, 2015, 8:25 pm

$50 bucks says the two of you eventually move in together.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by T_R » November 24, 2015, 8:26 pm

In other news, it appears that the Russian pilots are now in kit form.

A little NSFW, if you are queasy.

https://twitter.com/allsory_allhor/stat ... 6624689152
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 24, 2015, 8:35 pm

T_R wrote:$50 bucks says the two of you eventually move in together.
More chance of me and you opening a Shoe repair store in Vancouver.

Ohh and I don't think I want to click that twitter link..

Anyway apparently this is the flight tracker, blue border I'm guessing is Turkey's space? Again CNN deliver with their detail to labeling


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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by T_R » November 24, 2015, 8:37 pm

Holy ****!

The red line appeared to go over the blue line and there's black all over the place and a little green box and some grey!

**** should nuke Ankara.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 24, 2015, 8:40 pm

T_R wrote:Holy ****!

The red line appeared to go over the blue line and there's black all over the place and a little green box and some grey!

**** should nuke Ankara.

Can we just agree to take out CNN turkey for giving us that image?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Green eyed Mick » November 24, 2015, 8:54 pm

Schifty wrote:UPDATE The decision to shoot down Russian jet was taken "directly" by the Turkish Prime Minister.

UPDATE Two pilots ejected from downed plane, one captured by Syria rebels: Turkish reports.

UPDATE Russian Defense Ministry says it can prove the aircraft was over Syria for whole flight

http://www.airlive.net/2015/11/alert-un ... ashes.html

oh ****.....
You would think if the Russian jet was shot down in Turkish Airspace the pilots would have ejected over Turkey and been captured in Turkey.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by T_R » November 24, 2015, 8:58 pm

I was hoping that is was an SU-35 shot down, so I could go back to mocking GEM and his knowledge of fighter planes.

It would have been nice if some good had come from this :(
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 24, 2015, 9:12 pm

Russia releasing a statement... and being calm? about it... I don't think this is necessarily a good thing..

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Manbush » November 24, 2015, 11:37 pm

Schifty wrote:
T_R wrote:God. That's deep.
iran not muslim country muslim country lives under sharia law
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I've been trolled by Manbush.
If I had Twitter id be all over your feed :lol:

On Iran one of the floaters for our company is a Christian refugee from there (he insists on calling it Persia though), interesting bloke to work with for his inside views on the country.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Archer » November 25, 2015, 12:56 am

Manbush wrote:
On Iran one of the floaters for our company is a Christian refugee from there (he insists on calling it Persia though).
This is pretty amongst the Farsi speaking population isn't it?
Also I think I played that game on the old Megadrive Shifty, maybe Turkey CNN were looking in the wrong screenshot folder.

Seriously though I don't even know what to say at this point, some of the reports coming out seem pretty crazy.
'Turkmen forces shot dead pilots as they parachuted'
Posted at 14:39
The deputy commander of a Turkmen brigade in Syria says his forces shot dead two pilots of the downed Russian jet as they descended with parachutes, says Reuters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-mi ... t-34908469

Now I don't know much about this so I stand to look like a fool, but this seems like a pretty wrong thing to do to me.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by T_R » November 25, 2015, 5:41 am

Archer wrote:
Manbush wrote:
On Iran one of the floaters for our company is a Christian refugee from there (he insists on calling it Persia though).
This is pretty amongst the Farsi speaking population isn't it?
Also I think I played that game on the old Megadrive Shifty, maybe Turkey CNN were looking in the wrong screenshot folder.

Seriously though I don't even know what to say at this point, some of the reports coming out seem pretty crazy.
'Turkmen forces shot dead pilots as they parachuted'
Posted at 14:39
The deputy commander of a Turkmen brigade in Syria says his forces shot dead two pilots of the downed Russian jet as they descended with parachutes, says Reuters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-mi ... t-34908469

Now I don't know much about this so I stand to look like a fool, but this seems like a pretty wrong thing to do to me.
My advice to pilots in general is not to parachute in on top of the people you were just napalm.

They tend to be a little miffed.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 25, 2015, 5:50 am

This is the last thing we need..

Armed men have taken hostages after gun shots were fired in the northern French town of Roubaix, a police source said.

It was not immediately clear whether the gunmen were linked to the attacks in Paris on November 13.

"An operation is underway after hostages were taken. Gunshots were fired and the neighbourhood has been cordoned off," the source told Reuters.

Read more: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-2 ... ix/6971218

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 25, 2015, 5:54 am

Now there's also this.
https://twitter.com/smh/status/669241612694876162

Radar image shows shot-down Russian jet did fly into Turkish airspace - but only for about 10 seconds. https://t.co/UgInTAdmVI
If they were in it for 10 seconds it's a bit hard to buy the "we warned them 10 times" tale..

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Re: The Politics Thread

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Schifty wrote:This is the last thing we need..

Armed men have taken hostages after gun shots were fired in the northern French town of Roubaix, a police source said.

It was not immediately clear whether the gunmen were linked to the attacks in Paris on November 13.

"An operation is underway after hostages were taken. Gunshots were fired and the neighbourhood has been cordoned off," the source told Reuters.

Read more: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-2 ... ix/6971218
If you're NOT a terrorist, France is a really, really bad place and this is a really, really bad time to be taking hostages at gunpoint. I imagine the police are quite.....tense.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 25, 2015, 6:13 am

Apparently it is a bank manager and his family taken hostage?

It French authorities get a open shot it's pretty obvious they will be taking it.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by The Rickman » November 25, 2015, 6:15 am

Damn them all to hell. I have successfully managed to mainly avoid the news for about ten years now, in the last few weeks I've been glued to it
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 25, 2015, 6:21 am

Oh and there has also been another bombing in Tunisia..

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Green eyed Mick » November 25, 2015, 6:59 am

Schifty wrote:Now there's also this.
https://twitter.com/smh/status/669241612694876162

Radar image shows shot-down Russian jet did fly into Turkish airspace - but only for about 10 seconds. https://t.co/UgInTAdmVI
If they were in it for 10 seconds it's a bit hard to buy the "we warned them 10 times" tale..
The strip of Turkish land they flew across is about 1km wide which makes the Turkish version of events difficult to swallow.

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Re: The Politics Thread

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Green eyed Mick wrote:
Schifty wrote:Now there's also this.
https://twitter.com/smh/status/669241612694876162

Radar image shows shot-down Russian jet did fly into Turkish airspace - but only for about 10 seconds. https://t.co/UgInTAdmVI
If they were in it for 10 seconds it's a bit hard to buy the "we warned them 10 times" tale..
The strip of Turkish land they flew across is about 1km wide which makes the Turkish version of events difficult to swallow.
I think the Turkish point is that they've warned them over and over again to stop.

Of course, it's just an excuse - the Russians are bombing ethnic Turkmen, who are traditional allies of the Turkish. I imagine that the Turks have been hanging on having a chance at taking a shot at them.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 25, 2015, 7:30 am

Did Turkey just say they'll even intercept a bird if it enters their airspace?

F16 vs a seagull is most lopsided fight ever.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Green eyed Mick » November 25, 2015, 7:48 am

The big problem in Syria is everyone has a different view of what victory looks like.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Dr Zaius » November 25, 2015, 8:27 am

Green eyed Mick wrote:The big problem in Syria is everyone.
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Re: The Politics Thread

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Schifty wrote: UPDATE Two pilots ejected from downed plane, one captured by Syria rebels: Turkish reports.
...
The good rebels or the bad ones?
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Re: The Politics Thread

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Clearly this guy is a scholar of 1800's Australian History.

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Re: The Politics Thread

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Gerg wrote:
Schifty wrote: UPDATE Two pilots ejected from downed plane, one captured by Syria rebels: Turkish reports.
...
The good rebels or the bad ones?
There are US backed rebels, Turkish backed rebels, Al Qaeda backed rebels but there are no good rebels. That is why Syria is destined to be a complete balls up like Afghanistan and Iraq

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The best thing about Syria compared to Iraq and Afghanistan though, is that it's slowly drawing the whole world into the conflict
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Re: The Politics Thread

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Green eyed Mick wrote:
Gerg wrote:
Schifty wrote: UPDATE Two pilots ejected from downed plane, one captured by Syria rebels: Turkish reports.
...
The good rebels or the bad ones?
There are US backed rebels, Turkish backed rebels, Al Qaeda backed rebels but there are no good rebels. That is why Syria is destined to be a complete balls up like Afghanistan and Iraq
It's really very simple and straight-forward. The Economist has pitched in with this helpful infographic:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicd ... asternmesh
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Post by The Rickman » November 25, 2015, 2:24 pm

Nice work, TR. I didn't realise Iran and the US were on the same sides in Iraq

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Re: The Politics Thread

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The Nickman wrote:Nice work, TR. I didn't realise Iran and the US were on the same sides in Iraq

The more you know
Must have caused them huge embarrassment
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by The Rickman » November 25, 2015, 2:34 pm

At least they're on opposite sides in Yemen and Syria though

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Post by Schifty » November 25, 2015, 5:06 pm

For those who need a quick of what happened last night


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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Green eyed Mick » November 25, 2015, 5:39 pm

There is no way the Russians will go to war with Turkey over this. At worst they will cut off their gas supplies and kill off some poor Turkish geriatrics.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Schifty » November 25, 2015, 8:56 pm

Seems like Syrian gov forces found the other Russian pilot.

That guy needs to buy lottery tickets.

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