Blackfish
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- Steve Walters
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Blackfish
A documentary I've just watched on killer whales kept in captivity at sea world in various parts of the US and also within Spain. It focuses quite a bit on the deaths of a few trainers and sea world's alleged attempts to either keep them secret or manufacture less contentious stories regarding the manner in which the trainers were killed.
Has anyone else seen it?
Has anyone else seen it?
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Re: Blackfish
Yeah the one with Tilikum. Absolutely amazing doco. The disgusting way that Seaworld covered the incidents up are atrocious.
There is some terrifying footage.
There is some terrifying footage.
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- Steve Walters
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I'm just reading some more news on it now and it seems, as a result of the documentary, that some high profile people and organisations have discontinued their relationships with sea world.
Sure, there's always two sides to every story, but the evidence within the documentary appears quite unambiguous, doesn't it. Furthermore, the documentary was released in '13 and, from what I've found (or not found) through looking around on the net tonight, it doesn't appear as if sea world has really 'returned served' in the public domain. It does, however, continue to fight the courts to have overturned the decision to no longer allow trainers in the water.
Interesting and quite sad documentary, nonetheless.
Sure, there's always two sides to every story, but the evidence within the documentary appears quite unambiguous, doesn't it. Furthermore, the documentary was released in '13 and, from what I've found (or not found) through looking around on the net tonight, it doesn't appear as if sea world has really 'returned served' in the public domain. It does, however, continue to fight the courts to have overturned the decision to no longer allow trainers in the water.
Interesting and quite sad documentary, nonetheless.
Re: Blackfish
If you're interested about marine live stories I suggest this.
http://www.goweirdfacts.com/scientist-g ... glish.html
There was a whole podcast on this Scientist Lilly.. Actually fascinating (and disturbing) listening.
http://www.goweirdfacts.com/scientist-g ... glish.html
There was a whole podcast on this Scientist Lilly.. Actually fascinating (and disturbing) listening.
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- Steve Walters
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Are you taking the piss? I just reached for the headphones but before I could put them in my ears I read the opening line...Schifty wrote:If you're interested about marine live stories I suggest this.
http://www.goweirdfacts.com/scientist-g ... glish.html
There was a whole podcast on this Scientist Lilly.. Actually fascinating (and disturbing) listening.
Edit - I've just read some more and, yeah, nah, that's a little bit too disturbing for me
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http://podbay.fm/show/643055307/e/14028 ... utostart=1Raider 85 wrote:Are you taking the piss? I just reached for the headphones but before I could put them in my ears I read the opening line...Schifty wrote:If you're interested about marine live stories I suggest this.
http://www.goweirdfacts.com/scientist-g ... glish.html
There was a whole podcast on this Scientist Lilly.. Actually fascinating (and disturbing) listening.
Edit - I've just read some more and, yeah, nah, that's a little bit too disturbing for me
It's actually hilarious
It's not all about Dolphin Handjobs.. He started out taking Acid then getting into flotation tanks.
Government funding for all this btw
The Dollop is an amazing podcast btw, there's a recent episode about a 1900s baseball pitcher who was really good.. But easily distracted..
E.g.
Would rock up 5 min before a game, walk through the crowd and swig beer and get into fights with fans
*every time a fire truck went past he would chase it.
*If Somebody held up a puppy in the crowd he would run up and pat it.
*Was once fired from a contract 2 days after signing it for excessive drinking.
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Re: Blackfish
Animal cruelty is abhorrant in all its forms and I find it fascinating that inflicing physical pain on animals is considered cruel but inflicting a lifetime of emotional pain on an intelligent animal is considered entertainment.
Still, there is some interesting legal work being done in the US through the Nonhuman rights project. They aim to establish common law rights for animals like Orca's, Higher order primates and Elephants.
They believe that keeping animals like Chimps and Orca's in captivity is cruel and inhumane and corporations shouldn't be able to profit from torturing animals anymore than they would be able to profit form torturing human beings.
Still, there is some interesting legal work being done in the US through the Nonhuman rights project. They aim to establish common law rights for animals like Orca's, Higher order primates and Elephants.
They believe that keeping animals like Chimps and Orca's in captivity is cruel and inhumane and corporations shouldn't be able to profit from torturing animals anymore than they would be able to profit form torturing human beings.
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- Steve Walters
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Re: Blackfish
Intelligent is right - from what I've read overnight with regards to a killer whale's brain - my god.
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Re: Blackfish
Watched the trailer to Blackfish......it looked intense!
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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- Steve Walters
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I found it on line this morning for free (the day after I hired the DVD - imagine my surprise) - just google blackfish documentary and click on the touch.dailymotion one.dubby wrote:Watched the trailer to Blackfish......it looked intense!
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Re: Blackfish
Thanks mate - I wanted to add the link myself but I always add videos incorrectly, and I'm too stupid to know what I'm doing wrong, why the mods change it and what I have to do to ensure I do it correctlyManchild wrote:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1iepl ... ld_animals
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Could you be any more self righteous?Green eyed Mick wrote:Animal cruelty is abhorrant in all its forms and I find it fascinating that inflicing physical pain on animals is considered cruel but inflicting a lifetime of emotional pain on an intelligent animal is considered entertainment.
Still, there is some interesting legal work being done in the US through the Nonhuman rights project. They aim to establish common law rights for animals like Orca's, Higher order primates and Elephants.
They believe that keeping animals like Chimps and Orca's in captivity is cruel and inhumane and corporations shouldn't be able to profit from torturing animals anymore than they would be able to profit form torturing human beings.
I'm going to order myself a huge plate of Orca sashimi in Japan next month, and dedicate it to you.
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