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Re: Queensland public healthcare system to be decimated

Posted: March 28, 2014, 7:35 am
by Dr Zaius
There is a very real chance SB

Re: Queensland public healthcare system to be decimated

Posted: March 28, 2014, 7:39 am
by Shadow Boxer
Great news, we can never have enough caring pediatricians.

Re: Queensland public healthcare system to be decimated

Posted: March 28, 2014, 8:50 am
by Stuat
I don't know all that much about the details of this , but it sounds pretty absurd. I know four doctors who live in Brisbane, all are already thinking about relocating because of it. Heck one couple was down in Melbourne looking at houses last week. Sounds like the doctor exodus will be massive if nothing changes. Newman thinks he can simply replace them with overseas doctors, using the same company that gave the good people of QLD Dr Patel. Good luck.

Re: Queensland public healthcare system to be decimated

Posted: March 28, 2014, 9:34 am
by Manbush
Shadow Boxer wrote:Come to Canberra GB, We are a welcoming bunch.

Best culture in Australia as well apparently

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014 ... ltural-fix
They even have a bike track ;)

Re: Queensland public healthcare system to be decimated

Posted: March 28, 2014, 10:09 am
by papabear
Dr Zaius wrote:
papabear wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:
papabear wrote:In answer to your question, it depends what they are paying me, my other options and the other conditions of the contract.

IMO this is a thread fail.
I imagine that you'd be in the 1% of the population that thinks forcing someone to sign a contract with those conditions is fair an equitable, but thanks for joining the conversation Mr Newman.
I tried to refrain but I couldn't resist.

I posted in the politics thread my support for workers maintaining shift rights etc in opposition to TR who wanted workers in the country to do it for less. I look at an issue, consider it (and the information available) and decide my position.

In this thread you have asked us what would we do with a contract and you have only pulled out the clauses that are in favour of the employer, not those in favour of the employee (like pay) without that and other background circumstances how is anyone meant to know.

You are trying to compel me to take the position that people are being ripped off without any attempt to tell even close to the whole story, that sort of bias I would expect for today tonite and honestly it makes me naturally side the other way. Because I certainly will not lend my opinion and internet credibility to someone who is not engaging an issue in an appropriate manner.

Hence why your thread fails.
Well specifically for pay, it is unchanged. More or less it is the conditions that have changed. We actually stand to gain nothing. Not a thing. Essentially they want to "stream line" the health system. Their vision of doing that is that they should be able to tell their employees where they will work in the state, when they will work and how many hours they will work (with no additional pay). This may have you move from a 9 to 5 gig in Brisbane one week to a 72 hour shift over Christmas in Mt Isa the next with no additional pay. There is no longer provision for fatigue safeguards. If you refuse to do as instructed, you will be disciplined and sacked. If you feel that you have been unfairly sacked, too bad you no longer have the right to apply for unfair dismissal under the Industrial Relations Act as this has been outlawed, only for senior medical officers mind you. Of most concern is that we have lost our right to advocate for our patients. Bureaucrats constantly put in place policies that cripple clinicians and deliver poor outcomes in favor of saving the system money. We will no longer be able to advocate as we will be disciplined and dismissed with no course to appeal as it has been made illegal.

But I think you miss the point. As I said, it doesn't matter if you feel sorry for the doctors or not. Newman has essentially run a smear campaign throughout painting us as bunch of overpaid lazy bastards who spend most of our time on the golf course. Whatever. The reality is the overwhelming majority of specialists who work in the Queensland Health system plan to resign over this as they feel that the conditions are unworkable. This is not a decision people have made lightly for obvious reasons. So, back to the point of my thread, if you live in Queensland and care about your public health system, you need to take action.

I've submitted my letter of resignation effective from the 30th of April. Most of my colleagues on the Gold Coast have done the same. As far as I can tell there will be no public health care system here on the Gold Coast, at least no safe one.
Well it appears that you have answered your question in your OP.

I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors :D.

Re: Queensland public healthcare system to be decimated

Posted: March 30, 2014, 12:15 pm
by Seiffert82
I wonder if Campbell Newman will ever learn that you can't run a government using textbook economic principles when there are real people involved.

Actually, I more so wonder if the people of Queensland will actually punt the idiot before he completely destroys the joint.

Re: Queensland public healthcare system to be decimated

Posted: March 30, 2014, 3:25 pm
by rolhai
Someone needs to get in Halo's ear and let him know how the QLD health system is going down the toilet and that if he wants good medical care he should stay in ACT!

Re: Queensland public healthcare system to be decimated

Posted: April 1, 2014, 7:03 am
by Dr Zaius