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I don't care about the rights of bikies myself. But if the premier thinks ice/illegal steroids are the main issue, more has to be done than just taking a hard line approach to bikie gangs.
'I've got 17 blokes in that dressing room that are hurting'
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Agreed.
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The only way to hit the illegal drug trade is to legalise them transferring the profits from criminals to the government, the war on drugs cannot be won any other way history has proven it.
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I agree with that too, Manbush.
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Bushy refers only to marijuana.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Everything should be made legal and distributed by the Government.
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Has anyone seen the photo and the rants about the mug who hit Daniel Christie? Seriously are people morons? All they are doing is helping his defence team. There is a reason why police don't release details of people and stop the media from doing so, now this clown is going to get a closed hearing in front of a judge, no jury, because his defence team will say that you won't be able to guarantee an impartial jury on account of his mugshot being plastered all over social media... bloody idiots!
I found a moon rock in my nose....
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Drugs won't ever be made legal in this country. And so they shouldn't.
Well, at least Jack got paid.
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No I don't mate, that's my preference obviously but if you want to make drugs safer and save lives all drugs should be legalised and quality/ingredients regulated by the government, it's the only way.dubby wrote:Bushy refers only to marijuana.
You do realise that your legal choice of drug is one of the most dangerous and harmful.Luffty wrote:Drugs won't ever be made legal in this country. And so they shouldn't.
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As much as it absolutely pains me to say this, I'm with Manbush all the way on this one.
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My approach is everything should be available and regulated in its natural form. Cannabis, Psylocybin, Mescaline, Opium, Coca, etc.Manbush wrote:No I don't mate, that's my preference obviously but if you want to make drugs safer and save lives all drugs should be legalised and quality/ingredients regulated by the government, it's the only way.dubby wrote:Bushy refers only to marijuana.
You do realise that your legal choice of drug is one of the most dangerous and harmful.Luffty wrote:Drugs won't ever be made legal in this country. And so they shouldn't.
I would put a hold on legalising synthetic drugs in the hope that the availability of cheap and reliable uppers, downers and psychodelics would destroy any black market in such drugs.
Not that it will ever happen. The talk in the US is they will probably have federal laws legalising the sale of Cannabis during the next presidential term. At the same time we won't even look at medicinal cannabis despite more than a decade of solid data from different countries demonstrating its effectiveness.
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a few peple on FB have invited me to join in on this act... it's been all i can do not to get extremely abusive to them. **** idiots.Dibbers wrote:Has anyone seen the photo and the rants about the mug who hit Daniel Christie? Seriously are people morons? All they are doing is helping his defence team. There is a reason why police don't release details of people and stop the media from doing so, now this clown is going to get a closed hearing in front of a judge, no jury, because his defence team will say that you won't be able to guarantee an impartial jury on account of his mugshot being plastered all over social media... bloody idiots!
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didnt we discuss this, if your on the side of Manbush, it's time to reassess your stance on the situationThe Nickman wrote:As much as it absolutely pains me to say this, I'm with Manbush all the way on this one.
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I know, I'm currently reassessing everything as we speak.Nick wrote:didnt we discuss this, if your on the side of Manbush, it's time to reassess your stance on the situationThe Nickman wrote:As much as it absolutely pains me to say this, I'm with Manbush all the way on this one.
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I don't see why it matters.Dibbers wrote:Has anyone seen the photo and the rants about the mug who hit Daniel Christie? Seriously are people morons? All they are doing is helping his defence team. There is a reason why police don't release details of people and stop the media from doing so, now this clown is going to get a closed hearing in front of a judge, no jury, because his defence team will say that you won't be able to guarantee an impartial jury on account of his mugshot being plastered all over social media... bloody idiots!
I doubt it will go to trial
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I would love to see GeM's facebook page, he'd just be outraged at absolutely everything...
"Red chalk in schools?!?... rant rant rant rant rant rant"
"Red chalk in schools?!?... rant rant rant rant rant rant"
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What am I outraged by this time.The Nickman wrote:I would love to see GeM's facebook page, he'd just be outraged at absolutely everything...
"Red chalk in schools?!?... rant rant rant rant rant rant"
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Everything.
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For the drinkers who like to judge others
" Alcohol is a more dangerous drug than both crack and heroin when the combined harms to the user and to others are assessed, British scientists said Monday.
Presenting a new scale of drug harm that rates the damage to users themselves and to wider society, the scientists rated alcohol the most harmful overall and almost three times as harmful as cocaine or tobacco."
Read more http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUST ... 1?irpc=932
Alcohol 14 times more dangerous than mushies
Just reading more on the research, crack and heroine are the most dangerous (alcohol ranked 4th) to the user but alcohol ranked highest for danger to others.
" Alcohol is a more dangerous drug than both crack and heroin when the combined harms to the user and to others are assessed, British scientists said Monday.
Presenting a new scale of drug harm that rates the damage to users themselves and to wider society, the scientists rated alcohol the most harmful overall and almost three times as harmful as cocaine or tobacco."
Read more http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUST ... 1?irpc=932
Alcohol 14 times more dangerous than mushies
Just reading more on the research, crack and heroine are the most dangerous (alcohol ranked 4th) to the user but alcohol ranked highest for danger to others.
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Meth is interesting but it really shouldn't be in the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.
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What do you mean?Shadow Boxer wrote:Meth is interesting but it really shouldn't be in the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.
I'd say that anyone who has their hands on meth has absolutely no idea what they are doing.
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It's not a drug the government should be giving away in a legal program.
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This world needs more cracked up bong smoking meth heads roaming the earth in a zombied state legally imo.
This place is woke.
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Are you people all completely nuts?
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It's pure filth.DJ89 wrote:What do you mean?Shadow Boxer wrote:Meth is interesting but it really shouldn't be in the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.
I'd say that anyone who has their hands on meth has absolutely no idea what they are doing.
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Meth changes your brain. Once you have it you will always crave it.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Speaking from experience dub-step?
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From education and experiences. Once you've encountered a meth addict it changes you profoundly.
The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Not sure where getting your info but meth cravings do supposedly get weaker the longer you go without and do eventually go away, same with some of the changes to the brain are also reversed with abstinence.dubby wrote:Meth changes your brain. Once you have it you will always crave it.
Evil drug though.
Edit: Just saw your above post, drug education is poorly run, sprout BS propaganda and exaggerate for scare tactics, once kids learn ones a lie they don't trust the rest of the info they've been fed even when true leading to more potential harm.
As I've said meth is evil, but there's enough evil **** about it without the need for BS.
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dubby wrote:Meth changes your brain. Once you have it you will always crave it.
Meth addicts, sure
but its not like if you use it once, you always crave it as implied.
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All you have to do is look at one of the many faces of meth pages to see how much it destroys people.
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It's like looking into my eyes.dubby wrote:Meth changes your brain. Once you have it you will always crave it.
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Yep meth can cause nausea toThe Nickman wrote:It's like looking into my eyes.dubby wrote:Meth changes your brain. Once you have it you will always crave it.
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So, if you had a choice you would ban alcohol and make crack and heroin legal?Manbush wrote:For the drinkers who like to judge others
" Alcohol is a more dangerous drug than both crack and heroin when the combined harms to the user and to others are assessed, British scientists said Monday.
Presenting a new scale of drug harm that rates the damage to users themselves and to wider society, the scientists rated alcohol the most harmful overall and almost three times as harmful as cocaine or tobacco."
Read more http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUST ... 1?irpc=932
Alcohol 14 times more dangerous than mushies
Just reading more on the research, crack and heroine are the most dangerous (alcohol ranked 4th) to the user but alcohol ranked highest for danger to others.
Well, at least Jack got paid.
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If I had no choice but to choose. I would absolutely make heroin and cocaine legal and prohibit Alcohol.Luffty wrote:So, if you had a choice you would ban alcohol and make crack and heroin legal?Manbush wrote:For the drinkers who like to judge others
" Alcohol is a more dangerous drug than both crack and heroin when the combined harms to the user and to others are assessed, British scientists said Monday.
Presenting a new scale of drug harm that rates the damage to users themselves and to wider society, the scientists rated alcohol the most harmful overall and almost three times as harmful as cocaine or tobacco."
Read more http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUST ... 1?irpc=932
Alcohol 14 times more dangerous than mushies
Just reading more on the research, crack and heroine are the most dangerous (alcohol ranked 4th) to the user but alcohol ranked highest for danger to others.
With Heroin it is a no brainer. 1000's of people in this country are already functioning opiate addicts. Heroin is basically a crude and powerful sedative and pain reliever. It is addictive but unlike Alcohol in doesn't have the dangerous side effect of reducing inhibitions and increasing risk taking behaviour.
Cocaine is a powerful stimulant but 1000's of people already use it all the time. Because it is expensive it is a middle class and high society drug. So the social impacts are limited.
At the end of the day. The problem isn't the drug it is the addiction. It is addiction that leads people to crime and anti-social behaviour regardless of the drug of choice. Plenty more alcoholics sitting in parks than heroin addicts.
Any drug policy needs to accept the fact that the overwhelming majority of all drug users are not addicts, use in moderation and are not a danger to themselves or the community. We also need to accept that addiction is an illness not a criminal offence. Treat addiction regardless and leave people that are capable of moderation to enjoy their drug of choice.