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I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?

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zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
There are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.

I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.

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Thanks for the info. I must admit this time around I haven't been following the news as much so I'm a little ignorant as to the morons in victoria. First time around I was madly following everything that came up.

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Reading an article on virus transmission they're roughly 50% more transmissible in colder, less humid environments. So winter is a perfect time, combined with people getting less sunlight thus having lower vitamin D levels and lower immunity.. boom spread

I can't copy the link to my source, but it's a Harvard article "the reason for the season - why flu strikes in winter"

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Dr Zaius wrote:
July 31, 2020, 1:37 pm
zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
There are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.

I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
Saw a report on the news today that spot checks on people meant to be in quarantine found 1 in 4 were missing. Seriously, what chance do we have when people who know they are infected still go out into the community. :nooo
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Northern Raider wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:
July 31, 2020, 1:37 pm
zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
There are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.

I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
Saw a report on the news today that spot checks on people meant to be in quarantine found 1 in 4 were missing. Seriously, what chance do we have when people who know they are infected still go out into the community. :nooo
Exactly. It's getting to the point where the only way they get control is a Stage 4 lockdown. All workplaces except hospitals, pharmacies and supermarkets are closed. Need to apply online for a permit to go out. That's how Italy wheeled it back in. I'm not as optimistic as Nick. The 7 day rolling average isn't looking great Image

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The simple fact that at least 130 known COVID-19 carriers are going out and about says they're no chance of keeping it in check.
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Northern Raider wrote:The simple fact that at least 130 known COVID-19 carriers are going out and about says they're no chance of keeping it in check.
No, which is why they really need to consider going to Stage 4. My friend was in northern Italy during their lock down. If you were out and about you were stopped by police or military and questioned.

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Dr Zaius wrote:
July 31, 2020, 2:44 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:
July 31, 2020, 1:37 pm
zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
There are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.

I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
Saw a report on the news today that spot checks on people meant to be in quarantine found 1 in 4 were missing. Seriously, what chance do we have when people who know they are infected still go out into the community. :nooo
Exactly. It's getting to the point where the only way they get control is a Stage 4 lockdown. All workplaces except hospitals, pharmacies and supermarkets are closed. Need to apply online for a permit to go out. That's how Italy wheeled it back in. I'm not as optimistic as Nick. The 7 day rolling average isn't looking great Image
I think another week from now we'll know if what I'm saying is complete garbage or whether there's some element of truth here.

And what I mean is if in another week Victoria is still around the 500 new cases a day mark, then we're doing ok, if they're up around a thousand, then we're all doomed.
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The Nickman wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:
July 31, 2020, 2:44 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:
July 31, 2020, 1:37 pm
zim wrote:I know the strain we have is different to some of the strains in other countries but there must have been some mutation from the original virus that landed here. It seems more infectious this time around, or is it just a consequence of being in a season where health is generally worse?
There are a number of strains circulating around the world, but as best as I'm aware (and don't quote me on this) they are unimportant mutations with little effect on pathogenicity.

I think the difference here is that we locked down early the first time around, when there was little community spread (not so this time in Melbourne) and people were following the rules. Some of the stories coming out of Melbourne are astounding, such as people going to work despite being positive. A small number of people serving their own interests are feeding this pandemic, and dooming us all.
Saw a report on the news today that spot checks on people meant to be in quarantine found 1 in 4 were missing. Seriously, what chance do we have when people who know they are infected still go out into the community. :nooo
Exactly. It's getting to the point where the only way they get control is a Stage 4 lockdown. All workplaces except hospitals, pharmacies and supermarkets are closed. Need to apply online for a permit to go out. That's how Italy wheeled it back in. I'm not as optimistic as Nick. The 7 day rolling average isn't looking great Image
I think another week from now we'll know if what I'm saying is complete garbage or whether there's some element of truth here.

And what I mean is if in another week Victoria is still around the 500 new cases a day mark, then we're doing ok, if they're up around a thousand, then we're all doomed.
Well I hope that you are right old friend. Fingers crossed. There's a first time for everything.

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Dr Zaius wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:The simple fact that at least 130 known COVID-19 carriers are going out and about says they're no chance of keeping it in check.
No, which is why they really need to consider going to Stage 4. My friend was in northern Italy during their lock down. If you were out and about you were stopped by police or military and questioned.
Shouldn't your details be registered with the police once your positive?

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Wouldnt be surprised if those chinese commy ***** have ordered their drones hiding in australia to spread the virus down under again.

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You believe in the Chinese? Come on now. Or have they got to you too?

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zim wrote:Thanks for the info. I must admit this time around I haven't been following the news as much so I'm a little ignorant as to the morons in victoria. First time around I was madly following everything that came up.
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I hope no one is operating under the assumption that I have more to give. There's less. A lot less.

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Dr Zaius wrote:
Northern Raider wrote:The simple fact that at least 130 known COVID-19 carriers are going out and about says they're no chance of keeping it in check.
No, which is why they really need to consider going to Stage 4. My friend was in northern Italy during their lock down. If you were out and about you were stopped by police or military and questioned.
Seems unnecessary on behalf of idiots? Surely we can try serious jail sentences for not being home first? Maybe people will give up a couple of weeks pay for the risk of a year in the slammer?

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zim wrote:I hope no one is operating under the assumption that I have more to give. There's less. A lot less.
You get back to following the news right now and fix this bloody mess you’ve made!

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Just turning Paul Murray on now. He'll set me back on the path.

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zim wrote:Just turning Paul Murray on now. He'll set me back on the path.
Good grief! Why do all those presenters on Sky News appear so, so angry all of the time

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Dr Zaius wrote:
July 31, 2020, 7:38 pm
zim wrote:Just turning Paul Murray on now. He'll set me back on the path.
Good grief! Why do all those presenters on Sky News appear so, so angry all of the time
I was so surprised when I flicked through the channels and caught the show. I'd listened to him be funny on MMM for ages and never heard a peep of his current nonsense. It was a real what the **** moment.
Can't believe he hid it so well.

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zim wrote:Just turning Paul Murray on now. He'll set me back on the path.
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Melbourne are moving to Stage 4 restrictions and night time curfew as of tonight. Rural Victoria Stage 3 from Wednesday.

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Chinavirus has now found its way to Newcastle.

Covid-19 positive tests amoung the population.

At least two schools closed for cleaning, people in quarantine.

We may all die !!
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-PJ- wrote:Chinavirus has now found its way to Newcastle.

Covid-19 positive tests amoung the population.

At least two schools closed for cleaning, people in quarantine.

We may all die !!
We're all going to die.

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Dr Zaius wrote:
August 7, 2020, 8:35 pm
-PJ- wrote:Chinavirus has now found its way to Newcastle.

Covid-19 positive tests amoung the population.

At least two schools closed for cleaning, people in quarantine.

We may all die !!
We're all going to die.
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-PJ- wrote:
Dr Zaius wrote:
August 7, 2020, 8:35 pm
-PJ- wrote:Chinavirus has now found its way to Newcastle.

Covid-19 positive tests amoung the population.

At least two schools closed for cleaning, people in quarantine.

We may all die !!
We're all going to die.
I was hoping for another premiership first.
Then I'd go happily.
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gangrenous wrote:Except for me. I’m a bot.
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