GE's grammar tips

Post by **greeneyed** » December 15, 2012, 9:38 am

GE's grammar tips. Today, I'll be covering the correct use of the word, "myself". It's one of my pet hates.

Myself is a reflexive pronoun to intensify the meaning of me. It should never be used to replace me. So these are correct uses of the word:

I was able to answer all the questions by myself.
I, myself, have been a Canberra Raiders fan since birth.
I took it upon myself to fix the problem.
That was a great job, even if I do say so myself.
I'm going to treat myself to a cup of coffee.
I see myself here for the next five years.

This is incorrect:

Please contact Joe or myself if you have questions.

A good test is to take Joe out of the picture in that sentence: Please contact myself if you have questions. Doesn't sound correct does it? You'd say: Please contact me if you have questions.

Another good check is this: if you haven't put "I" in the sentence first, it's quite unlikely to be the correct use of the word!

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 15, 2012, 9:47 am

Myself and GE and both very passionate about grammar.

Please · Post by **Please** » December 15, 2012, 9:50 am

What If I want Joe to be contacted?

SirMcSquid · Post by **SirMcSquid** » December 15, 2012, 9:52 am

thats sum gud advise rite their

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 15, 2012, 9:53 am

I think Joe is irrelevant, Luffty. What GE means is that you can contact either Joe OR himself if you have any further queries about grammar.

Myself I doubt Joe even knows anything about the correct use of the word myself.

SirMcSquid · Post by **SirMcSquid** » December 15, 2012, 9:56 am

greeneyed wrote: Please contact Joe or myself if you have questions.

I have some further questions on this issue. What are the contact phone numbers for Joe or Yourself?

FuiFui BradBrad · Post by **FuiFui BradBrad** » December 15, 2012, 10:07 am

Who's Joe?

Dr Zaius · Post by **Dr Zaius** » December 15, 2012, 10:08 am

GE, could you please advise on the correct use of the word "youse" in North Queensland. As in "Are youse ready to place your order?"

tragic · Post by **tragic** » December 15, 2012, 11:32 am

Can we all chime in?

I *accept* that the Raiders may not win a premiership next season, though I am hopeful.

It is not;

I *except* that the Raiders may not win a premiership next season, though I am hopeful.

I really really hate the above example.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 15, 2012, 11:37 am

Greenbits wrote:GE, could you please advise on the correct use of the word "youse" in North Queensland. As in "Are youse ready to place your order?"

That will be GE's next topic.

This one is about Joe.

gerg · Post by **gerg** » December 15, 2012, 12:24 pm

Joe is clearly SBW mate (the plumber).

I don't agree with the second one.

I, myself, have been a Canberra Raiders fan since birth.

Why would you include 'myself' when the sentence makes perfect sense without it? You are complicating an already complicated language by using unnecessary words. Secondly it is a false statement for those born before 82.

Post by **greeneyed** » December 15, 2012, 12:37 pm

Gerg wrote:Joe is clearly SBW mate (the plumber).

I don't agree with the second one.

I, myself, have been a Canberra Raiders fan since birth.

Why would you include 'myself' when the sentence makes perfect sense without it? You are complicating an already complicated language by using unnecessary words. Secondly it is a false statement for those born before 82.

But grammatically correct. Myself is a word that simply adds emphasis in this instance.

Captain Punish · Post by **Captain Punish** » December 15, 2012, 2:49 pm

I heard that Joe has his out of office on anyway. So is it best to contact myself?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » December 15, 2012, 3:01 pm

joe's a ****
**** joe

gerg · Post by **gerg** » December 15, 2012, 3:42 pm

greeneyed wrote:
Gerg wrote:Joe is clearly SBW mate (the plumber).

I don't agree with the second one.

I, myself, have been a Canberra Raiders fan since birth.

Why would you include 'myself' when the sentence makes perfect sense without it? You are complicating an already complicated language by using unnecessary words. Secondly it is a false statement for those born before 82.
But grammatically correct. Myself is a word that simply adds emphasis in this instance.

I usually add emphasis with an "F" word instead of an "M" word. More to the point why do you need to emphasise "I"? It's generally pretty self explanatory. For example if you say "I, that other bloke, have been a Canberra Raiders fan since birth" would just be ridiculous. In what context would stating "I have ...." require more emphasis?

EDIT.

By the way, this thread has EPIC written all over it. I can see this one eclipsing the Gambling thread by the end of next week.

-PJ- · Post by **-PJ-** » December 15, 2012, 5:38 pm

wasn't Joe a cameramen ?

Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » December 15, 2012, 5:41 pm

your

you're

the bone · Post by **the bone** » December 16, 2012, 1:39 am

"Please contact me or joe if you have questions" doesn't sound right either

Post by **greeneyed** » December 16, 2012, 6:18 am

the bone wrote:"Please contact me or joe if you have questions" doesn't sound right either

But it is.

Shadow Boxer · Post by **Shadow Boxer** » December 16, 2012, 7:21 am

Shouldn't it be "joe or I" ?

Post by **greeneyed** » December 16, 2012, 7:37 am

Shadow Boxer wrote:Shouldn't it be "joe or I" ?

Take Joe out of the sentence. Would you say "Please contact I"?

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 16, 2012, 9:52 am

greeneyed wrote:
the bone wrote:"Please contact me or joe if you have questions" doesn't sound right either
But it is.

I think it really depends on whether Joe works weekends or not, doesn't it??

Post by **greeneyed** » December 16, 2012, 10:08 am

Today we'll be covering split infinitives. Now some people say it's perfectly alright to split infinitives, but it's another pet hate!

Infinitives are made up of two words, for example:

to go

to run

to jump

A split infinitive involves putting an adverb between the two parts of the infinitive. The most famous example is from Star Trek: "to boldly go where no man has gone before". What the people from Star Trek should have said is: "to go boldly where no man has gone before". If you remember the Star Trek example, it's easy to avoid splitting infinitives. You just need to rearrange your words. For example:

"Joe decided to quickly throw the ball to Josh."

You shouldn't change it to: "Joe decided quickly to throw the ball to Josh." That changes the meaning.

What you could do is say: "Joe decided to throw the ball quickly to Josh."

There is is! Simple!

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 16, 2012, 10:10 am

What the hell is Joe throwing balls around for?? I'm still waiting for him to return my phone-call myself!

Dr Zaius · Post by **Dr Zaius** » December 16, 2012, 10:12 am

I'm going back to bed.

gangrenous · Post by **gangrenous** » December 16, 2012, 10:13 am

Infinitives were made to be split.

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 16, 2012, 10:14 am

Joe's a dick in my opinion.

Please · Post by **Please** » December 16, 2012, 10:26 am

I love your hungover posts.

Captain Punish · Post by **Captain Punish** » December 16, 2012, 10:26 am

Joe splits my infinitives

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 16, 2012, 10:35 am

Luffty wrote:I love your hungover posts.

I'm going to go and try one of these famous doubles that you're always raving about for lunch

Post by **greeneyed** » December 16, 2012, 8:07 pm

So this has been a great thread so far, even if I do say so myself. (Note the correct use of myself.)

So next, we're going to open it up to your common problems with grammar - and GE will answer your questions. Fire away!

Please · Post by **Please** » December 16, 2012, 8:09 pm

The Nickman wrote:
Luffty wrote:I love your hungover posts.
I'm going to go and try one of these famous doubles that you're always raving about for lunch

Cure your hangover?

The Nickman · Post by **The Nickman** » December 16, 2012, 8:14 pm

Luffty wrote:
The Nickman wrote:
Luffty wrote:I love your hungover posts.
I'm going to go and try one of these famous doubles that you're always raving about for lunch
Cure your hangover?

Actually it made me feel pretty sick. It's not real good, is it??

GE, I often struggle with when to use the word "tomorrow" and when I should use the word "tomorry". What is the correct context to use the two in??

Begbie · Post by **Begbie** » December 16, 2012, 8:16 pm

Myself reckons you are too anal. As long as we get the message it's ok. I've noticed your generosity with the use of commas – no need. Treat them like gold medallions mate.

Post by **greeneyed** » December 16, 2012, 8:19 pm

The Nickman wrote:
Luffty wrote:
The Nickman wrote:
Luffty wrote:I love your hungover posts.
I'm going to go and try one of these famous doubles that you're always raving about for lunch
Cure your hangover?
Actually it made me feel pretty sick. It's not real good, is it??

GE, I often struggle with when to use the word "tomorrow" and when I should use the word "tomorry". What is the correct context to use the two in??

I'm going to ignore that one, but I will cover the correct use of commas!

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