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Depression and mental health

Post by Thombre » June 24, 2016, 3:25 pm

Dubby if anyone is telling you to suck it up ill **** slap them. Absolute **** move to respond to someone opening up about their issues. Im glad another body is dealing with your work situation. Work is the last concern for you. Your head and livelyhood is key. if you need to talk i will pm my number you can contact any time, im on night shift this week at least (should have more coming up) i know night time can be difficult sometimes.

Spickman great to hear you are managing everything but dont forget my numbers there if you need me.

Gh mate Im real chuffed things are turning around for you, ill pm you my number, if you need to chat or have a beer before a game just gimmie a holla.
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by Manbush » June 24, 2016, 4:14 pm

I find music a big help, bit of Henry Rollins or Suicidal Tendencies (they're more about empowerment not what the name suggests) always lift me unless I want melancholy in which case go for something more mellow. Great way for me to direct my emotions in the direction I want them.
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by dubby » June 24, 2016, 5:17 pm

Hbomb wrote:Dubby if anyone is telling you to suck it up ill **** slap them. Absolute **** move to respond to someone opening up about their issues. Im glad another body is dealing with your work situation. Work is the last concern for you. Your head and livelyhood is key. if you need to talk i will pm my number you can contact any time, im on night shift this week at least (should have more coming up) i know night time can be difficult sometimes.

Spickman great to hear you are managing everything but dont forget my numbers there if you need me.

Gh mate Im real chuffed things are turning around for you, ill pm you my number, if you need to chat or have a beer before a game just gimmie a holla.
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by gangrenous » June 24, 2016, 6:45 pm

dubby wrote:
I hate telling people about this. I just hate it. People have enough crap in their life without worrying about mine.
And when I started telling people, they told me to suck it up, man up, etc.

It really shows you the quality of a person when you try and share your vulnerability and struggles, and they dismiss it as flippant as that.
That's sad to hear you got those responses. Those people are bastards, and it makes it hard to open up to other people. Don't give up on people and opening up though, with the right people it can take a huge weight off and give you the help you need to work through things.

Please don't feel like other people don't need your problems thrust on them. In a lot of cases people are willing to help, and need you to ask them for help or let them know how they can help. If someone you care about is struggling it'd be rare that that isn't immediately your most important concern.

Best of luck dubby and everyone else battling mental illness. It's a real bitch. I don't know whether it's on the rise or just gets diagnosed/discussed more. Either way the good news is that more people are aware of the issues and can support you rather than add to the problems. Like most things, you rarely appreciate exactly what it's like until it's affected you or someone very close to you.

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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by dubby » June 24, 2016, 7:43 pm

Thanks gangrenous

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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by -TW- » June 25, 2016, 7:09 pm

Green_Hammock wrote:Thought I would give people interested an update on my situation. Things are going pretty well for me at the moment. The reason my life went so downhill was that my then fiancé split with me, it devastated me. We went to the same church, eventually I left although I still keep in touch with a couple of friends and my pastor. It completely flipped my life and social situation upside down, I lost most of my friends. Most I understand thought I didn't want to talk to them anymore, but the struggle to open up to people was incredibly hard and not many knew what was going on. In a way it was a blessing because now I don't have those "friends" in my life and I've gotten in touch with a few old and good mates.

A massive help to me recently has been footy, I guess the medication put me in the place to do the right thing to help myself. So for the first time in 6 years (since school) I'm playing footy. I joined a team in the Canberra Raiders Cup reserves and it's been awesome, playing my second game on the weekend but just the exercise two weeknights and because I'm pretty introverted, socialising as part of the team has been huge for me. Work is also going well, I feel like I'm repaying my managers for being flexible and helping me when I was in trouble by finally being able to string a few weeks together and be here on a consistent basis.

The medication has helped for sure, but I would like to come off it in a few months maybe. The main downside is that if I forget to take it as I have before the next day is just hell and I can't function.

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We sound like a similar sort of personality, I tend to avoid new things due to being introverted, but when I'm in and going I'm fine and pretty outgoing. I guess I have this stupid fear of people turning their nose up at me like the black sheep.

I found the gym has helped me a lot, I was pretty down at the start of the year, my weight had blown out a bit and I was struggling with soreness a lot.

Losing 8kgs and seeing that if I push myself I can achieve things I'd convinced myself I couldn't, and the flow on effects of the actual exercise in terms of mood for a considerable amount of time after I finish is amazing, more energy day to day, little bit more confidence (something i struggle with) and have been sick about 60% less this year compared with this time last year as well

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Post by Cranky Old Man » June 25, 2016, 11:16 pm

Any of you blokes looking for a good listener feel absolutely free to pm me. I may be a bit of a prick, but I am happy to listen and do whatever I can to help.
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by bonehead » June 26, 2016, 10:22 am

Lenny Leonard wrote:
Green_Hammock wrote:Thought I would give people interested an update on my situation. Things are going pretty well for me at the moment. The reason my life went so downhill was that my then fiancé split with me, it devastated me. We went to the same church, eventually I left although I still keep in touch with a couple of friends and my pastor. It completely flipped my life and social situation upside down, I lost most of my friends. Most I understand thought I didn't want to talk to them anymore, but the struggle to open up to people was incredibly hard and not many knew what was going on. In a way it was a blessing because now I don't have those "friends" in my life and I've gotten in touch with a few old and good mates.

A massive help to me recently has been footy, I guess the medication put me in the place to do the right thing to help myself. So for the first time in 6 years (since school) I'm playing footy. I joined a team in the Canberra Raiders Cup reserves and it's been awesome, playing my second game on the weekend but just the exercise two weeknights and because I'm pretty introverted, socialising as part of the team has been huge for me. Work is also going well, I feel like I'm repaying my managers for being flexible and helping me when I was in trouble by finally being able to string a few weeks together and be here on a consistent basis.

The medication has helped for sure, but I would like to come off it in a few months maybe. The main downside is that if I forget to take it as I have before the next day is just hell and I can't function.

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We sound like a similar sort of personality, I tend to avoid new things due to being introverted, but when I'm in and going I'm fine and pretty outgoing. I guess I have this stupid fear of people turning their nose up at me like the black sheep.

I found the gym has helped me a lot, I was pretty down at the start of the year, my weight had blown out a bit and I was struggling with soreness a lot.

Losing 8kgs and seeing that if I push myself I can achieve things I'd convinced myself I couldn't, and the flow on effects of the actual exercise in terms of mood for a considerable amount of time after I finish is amazing, more energy day to day, little bit more confidence (something i struggle with) and have been sick about 60% less this year compared with this time last year as well
Good to hear mate, to good of a bloke to be down on yourself.
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by Raidersfan » June 27, 2016, 8:28 pm

Stick in there all the way guys. Been there, done that as have many before.

Just remember that life is always better on the other side.
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by Raidersfan » June 27, 2016, 8:39 pm

Reading back at some of the posts in this thread brings back memories.

I've had a few episodes in my life and on each and every occasion I opened up to family, friends and especially work mates and directors.

I tried to get through those times without medication but one one bout it was of assistance.

You will eventually get through it was my driving force.
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Post by Raidersfan » June 27, 2016, 8:56 pm

dubby wrote:I've been taking anti depressants for just over a month now. The dosage has increased steadily as there was no real improvement. Still isn't.

The psychiatrist delivered his diagnosis yday, and it was quite confronting.

I think my workplace is going to send me on leave for a few weeks to allow myself to adjust to the heavier dose of medicine. If I don't improve, I'll lose my job.

Lately my head is so heavy foggy and I can't bloody concentrate.

I understand that this takes time, and I need support from friends and family.
However, I've only told one person and my workplace.

I now know why people with mental illness don't like to tell anyone

People think I'm putting this on.

So, I find myself in this battle all alone. No one to turn to. No place of my own.
And yes, I find it repeating in my head.
I can't feel whole .....

Thanks to the boys who shared their experiences. It really helps.

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Mate I'm feeling for you but just stick in there ok.

I would not wish depression on my worst enemy. It saps the energy from you. I went night after night without sleep which unfortunately makes matters worse. Fortunately I had a very supportive work place. As one of my directors said, if you have a broken leg no one expects you to run onto a football field but unfortunately depression is not as evident or understood.

It will get better, don't worry about that. If you can get off the meds as quick as possible .. one of my wife's friends took various dosages before she found the right mix. I weened myself off them as soon as I could. If they help then stick with them.

Things will get better mate .. it may be a rough road, a long tunnel but you'll get through.
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by Green_Hammock » June 27, 2016, 9:12 pm

I wouldn't recommend coming off the medication just yet dubby. From my experience they make things worse before they make things better.. it took about 3 months maybe even longer for the pristiq to properly take effect for me. If after 3 or so months they don't work then maybe talk to your doctor about trying another one. If you do come off it onto another medication or onto nothing just keep in mind that it is going to be a very difficult few days at the least. Coming off citalopram to pristiq in the space of less than a week was absolute hell, I don't know if I'd ever felt that horrible or careless about whether I live or die. The doctor didn't really tell me about the withdrawels either, so just keep it in mind that you should give your meds a good shot before you decide to change.

Been thinking of you dubs, hope you are staying safe and hang in there.
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Post by Raidersfan » June 27, 2016, 9:28 pm

That's better advice than mine G_H

I don't think my prescribed med was a high dosage .. I started them on a Friday to make sure I could get to work on a Monday. They knocked me around for a day and a half but after that it was fine. I kept on taking them after I 'recovered' .. my doc said to keep taking them but I weened myself off them, taking them every 2nd day then every 3rd etc
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by bonehead » June 27, 2016, 10:17 pm

Great advice g_h i was on zoloft which started working about 12 days in but those first 10 days i just wanted to die.
My best mate is a ling term pristiq user, it has literally saved his life, marriage and family
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Post by dubby » June 28, 2016, 8:14 am

Thanks for the messages lads. I'm feeling better in the stronger dose, and I'll be on them until September at least

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Post by robtheraider » June 28, 2016, 1:23 pm

I've been on medication for anxiety now for just over 6 months, and the doc thinks its time for me to wean off, and I feel much better and i'm keen to give it a go.

Its been great for the last 4 months not to think that i'm about to die of a heart attack 2-3 times a day when my heart starts racing. Its also good to know that if as I start to wean off, old issues re-ocurr, I can continue on my meds.....doesn't mean i'm a failure, just that I need longer to get better.

I'm a bit of a knock about bloke and have a few mates that I drink with at the local, and sitting down and telling them of my issues and what i'm up to was good not only for me but for them also, and a few of them had similar episodes.....i'm 49, married, slightly overweight with anxiety......along with just over 50% of males in my demographic.

The more blokes that stand up with these issues the less the stigma that will be attached, and hopefully the more people can get the help they need.

I hope i'm wrong, but I remember seeing that the largest demographic committing suicide is the male tradie 25-40 years old.....and normally the group where i'd suggest the "harden up" comments are rife.

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Post by Professor » June 28, 2016, 1:29 pm

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Post by bonehead » June 28, 2016, 2:30 pm

Great post Rob
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Post by Raidersfan » June 28, 2016, 4:35 pm

Well done mate
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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by greeneyed » June 28, 2016, 7:44 pm

Great to see so much sharing of experiences and helping others.


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Post by Green_Hammock » June 29, 2016, 12:44 pm

The worst thing about the meds is the withdrawels for sure.. missed a tablet for the second time last night and I have to go home from work. Feeling dizzy, light headed and sick and can't concentrate on anything atm. Makes me wonder if I still need them or not.
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Post by Professor » June 29, 2016, 1:18 pm

Green_Hammock wrote:The worst thing about the meds is the withdrawels for sure.. missed a tablet for the second time last night and I have to go home from work. Feeling dizzy, light headed and sick and can't concentrate on anything atm. Makes me wonder if I still need them or not.
Stay on them unless your doctor has said otherwise.

Re your forgetfulness - cut a strip off the packet and put in your notes' section of your wallet - you'll look in your wallet a few times a day and will be reminded to have it.

With the remaining packet, put on / with your car keys - every time you pick up your keys you'll be reminded.

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Post by reptar » June 29, 2016, 1:40 pm

I'm glad to see this discussed - it's often a hidden aspect of our society where people feel they have no support networks.
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Post by dubby » June 29, 2016, 3:11 pm

Yep, excellent thread. I really enjoy the support and the stories of our green brothers.

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Post by -TW- » June 29, 2016, 7:04 pm

Set an alarm on your phone, each day same time

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Post by robtheraider » June 29, 2016, 8:09 pm

every night before bed I have a routine where i get my socks, and jocks for the next day ready.

last thing i do before bed is put my meds on my jocks....so in the morning, after my shower, i take my meds put on my socks and jocks and i'm ready for the new day.

of course, day 3 and 4 of the jocks makes it interesting where i place my meds :shock:
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Post by dubby » June 30, 2016, 10:32 am

bonehead wrote:Not the worst poster going around
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That's not bad actually

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Post by robtheraider » June 30, 2016, 7:07 pm

thanks lenny, as a sufferer, i strongly believe that a sense of humor is needed at times, and your gif absolutely nailed it.

at the end of the day we have it we deal with it, and as tough as it it is for us all, sometimes a sense of humour dealing with it is needed.

my attitude comes from a doco i watched about parkinsons, where a female sufferer pointed out that the worse her conditions gets, the happier her husband is as he gets the best handjobs ever, but she feels guilty as she isnt even trying. :roflmao

somtimes we need to take humour however dark to keep us on track.

i'd seriously love to talk to anyone on this forum about these issues and share experiences and worries........until you've walked a mile in these shoes, you cant talk to someone who has walked a mile in these shoes.

ps my weaning was an abject failure..............just means i need longer or it is what it is .......
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Post by Professor » June 30, 2016, 7:41 pm

robtheraider wrote:ps my weaning was an abject failure..............just means i need longer or it is what it is .......
Who cares. Don't feel as if it's a failure. Diabetics have an illness for which they require a prick each day, and that's ok.

If you're to require a tablet each day for (insert time frame here), that's fine, too.

No failures here, mate. You've done plenty already to suggest you've got the right remedies in place.

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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by bonehead » June 30, 2016, 8:39 pm

Whilst i hate agreeing with the prof, he's right.

I feel all dirty now, only a trip to bruce can cleanse my soul. I'll likely be down fenceline in the ais end front row sevens jersey good sort etc if anyone wants to join me gametime.
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Post by Professor » June 30, 2016, 8:43 pm

bonehead wrote:Whilst i hate agreeing with the prof, he's right.

I feel all dirty now, only a trip to bruce can cleanse my soul. I'll likely be down fenceline in the ais end front row sevens jersey good sort etc if anyone wants to join me gametime.
Sweet. I'll look down - literally - on you from the box :)

Seriously, though, will come down at half time and have a schooner with ya if you're keen.

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Re: Depression and mental health

Post by bonehead » June 30, 2016, 9:51 pm

Raider 85 wrote:
bonehead wrote:Whilst i hate agreeing with the prof, he's right.

I feel all dirty now, only a trip to bruce can cleanse my soul. I'll likely be down fenceline in the ais end front row sevens jersey good sort etc if anyone wants to join me gametime.
Sweet. I'll look down - literally - on you from the box :)

Seriously, though, will come down at half time and have a schooner with ya if you're keen.
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Re: Depression and mental health

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