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Manbush wrote:Very thick skin mate and very comfortable with myself, while I don't really stir on here because I don't know you guys well enough so can be misinterpreted very easily in person I'm constantly stirring up mates so have to be able to take it. If you can't laugh at yourself who can you laugh at.
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I thought I was right on both fronts :lol:

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Raider 85 wrote:And when Manbush is being told by his teacher at a catholic school to have a drink in the bath before exams, it makes it somewhat hard not bang the lol emoticon.
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The Nickman wrote:Something else I've noticed guys is that we often hit an absolute low-point in our lives and we seek out the help to stop feeling awful, whether it be through exercise, meditation, healthier living, going outside more, medication or counselling and we learn to deal with things and we become "happier" again.

But then once we're over the worst of it, we stop. We stop doing many of the good things we've introduced in order to deal with the bad and eventually regress to that point again. I include myself in this category, as I forever start to slip on my exercise/diet etc and next thing I'm starting to feel low again.

It needs to be an ongoing process. Happiness comes from within, we need to hone the tools that directly foster our happiness for the good times as well as the bad.

Great post Nickman.
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Begbie wrote:
The Nickman wrote:Something else I've noticed guys is that we often hit an absolute low-point in our lives and we seek out the help to stop feeling awful, whether it be through exercise, meditation, healthier living, going outside more, medication or counselling and we learn to deal with things and we become "happier" again.

But then once we're over the worst of it, we stop. We stop doing many of the good things we've introduced in order to deal with the bad and eventually regress to that point again. I include myself in this category, as I forever start to slip on my exercise/diet etc and next thing I'm starting to feel low again.

It needs to be an ongoing process. Happiness comes from within, we need to hone the tools that directly foster our happiness for the good times as well as the bad.
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How you traveling today lads? Dubs? Hammock?
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I'm off sick bone, got a dr appt @ 3pm.

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-PJ- wrote:I'm off sick bone, got a dr appt @ 3pm.

How are you and how was your holiday ?
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That looks awesome mate, when are you returning to the real world ?
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-PJ- wrote:That looks awesome mate, when are you returning to the real world ?
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Have you spotted any white pointers ?

The weather looks great btw....
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Yeah nice onshore breeze hey PJ? ;)
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DJ89 wrote:Yeah nice onshore breeze hey PJ? ;)
Yr a funny guy DJ. Where you at ? I'm coming around to drink all your beer !!!!
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-PJ- wrote:
DJ89 wrote:Yeah nice onshore breeze hey PJ? ;)
Yr a funny guy DJ. Where you at ? I'm coming around to drink all your beer !!!!
Before I tell you, I think we need to establish some T and C's.

Firstly, is Simo coming and if so, is he naked?
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DJ89 wrote:
-PJ- wrote:
DJ89 wrote:Yeah nice onshore breeze hey PJ? ;)
Yr a funny guy DJ. Where you at ? I'm coming around to drink all your beer !!!!
Before I tell you, I think we need to establish some T and C's.

Firstly, is Simo coming and if so, is he naked?
No to simo and everyone will be wearing clothes.

Oh and I don't drink VB. So buy some good stuff..
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I went through a tough time a couple of years back when my dad passed away. What I can confirm is that alcohol and weed certainly doesn't help. I couldn't cope so I just went beserk and wrote myself off every weekend. You just end up feeling worse. Haven't had a drink in 6 months and never felt better.
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-PJ- wrote:
DJ89 wrote:
-PJ- wrote:
DJ89 wrote:Yeah nice onshore breeze hey PJ? ;)
Yr a funny guy DJ. Where you at ? I'm coming around to drink all your beer !!!!
Before I tell you, I think we need to establish some T and C's.

Firstly, is Simo coming and if so, is he naked?
No to simo and everyone will be wearing clothes.

Oh and I don't drink VB. So buy some good stuff..
no to simo? Well i never
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Thought I would give people interested an update on my situation. Things are going pretty well for me at the moment. The reason my life went so downhill was that my then fiancé split with me, it devastated me. We went to the same church, eventually I left although I still keep in touch with a couple of friends and my pastor. It completely flipped my life and social situation upside down, I lost most of my friends. Most I understand thought I didn't want to talk to them anymore, but the struggle to open up to people was incredibly hard and not many knew what was going on. In a way it was a blessing because now I don't have those "friends" in my life and I've gotten in touch with a few old and good mates.

A massive help to me recently has been footy, I guess the medication put me in the place to do the right thing to help myself. So for the first time in 6 years (since school) I'm playing footy. I joined a team in the Canberra Raiders Cup reserves and it's been awesome, playing my second game on the weekend but just the exercise two weeknights and because I'm pretty introverted, socialising as part of the team has been huge for me. Work is also going well, I feel like I'm repaying my managers for being flexible and helping me when I was in trouble by finally being able to string a few weeks together and be here on a consistent basis.

The medication has helped for sure, but I would like to come off it in a few months maybe. The main downside is that if I forget to take it as I have before the next day is just hell and I can't function.

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Hi GH, great to hear you are doing well, mate. I've had a bit of a rough trot myself, and I'm finding the two main things that are getting me through is talking to people and exercise.

I live by myself and don't often talk to people about my feelings and stuff, but when I'm home it's often the worst as I'm overthinking things and alone. That's where reaching out to friends and family (even texting) has kept me sane these past few weeks. Exercise has also played a big part. I've run about 55km in the last two weeks in 11 x 5km stints on various treadmills around the world (literally), and it's helped me no end. No idea how I would've coped without it, but I'm really starting to feel like my old self. As an added bonus I've lost 4kg already!

Another big thing for me is meditation. I've always meditated, but over the years I've got a bit "sloppy". In the past few weeks I've meditated every day for half an hour, including weekends, days off and even once on a long haul flight from Johannesburg.

All those things help, but especially talking to people. When you're at your worst always reach out to somebody, even if it's just on this forum or by text. If you ever post in this thread and need support, I promise to respond as soon as I see it. Keep up the good work, mate. Losing a loved one sucks, it hurts, but time really does heal all wounds (and aren't we all sick of people telling us that?).
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Green_Hammock wrote:Thought I would give people interested an update on my situation. Things are going pretty well for me at the moment. The reason my life went so downhill was that my then fiancé split with me, it devastated me. We went to the same church, eventually I left although I still keep in touch with a couple of friends and my pastor. It completely flipped my life and social situation upside down, I lost most of my friends. Most I understand thought I didn't want to talk to them anymore, but the struggle to open up to people was incredibly hard and not many knew what was going on. In a way it was a blessing because now I don't have those "friends" in my life and I've gotten in touch with a few old and good mates.

A massive help to me recently has been footy, I guess the medication put me in the place to do the right thing to help myself. So for the first time in 6 years (since school) I'm playing footy. I joined a team in the Canberra Raiders Cup reserves and it's been awesome, playing my second game on the weekend but just the exercise two weeknights and because I'm pretty introverted, socialising as part of the team has been huge for me. Work is also going well, I feel like I'm repaying my managers for being flexible and helping me when I was in trouble by finally being able to string a few weeks together and be here on a consistent basis.

The medication has helped for sure, but I would like to come off it in a few months maybe. The main downside is that if I forget to take it as I have before the next day is just hell and I can't function.

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Wow GH, seems like you're getting on top of things and good for you. Being around friends and having people who will just listen to you is so so important. I loved it when I was playing footy, the comraderie, friendships made are fof life.

Stick with it mate, relax a little and enjoy yourself. All the best to ya

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Great stories! Good that people of the forum can give others support as well.


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I've been taking anti depressants for just over a month now. The dosage has increased steadily as there was no real improvement. Still isn't.

The psychiatrist delivered his diagnosis yday, and it was quite confronting.

I think my workplace is going to send me on leave for a few weeks to allow myself to adjust to the heavier dose of medicine. If I don't improve, I'll lose my job.

Lately my head is so heavy foggy and I can't bloody concentrate.

I understand that this takes time, and I need support from friends and family.
However, I've only told one person and my workplace.

I now know why people with mental illness don't like to tell anyone

People think I'm putting this on.

So, I find myself in this battle all alone. No one to turn to. No place of my own.
And yes, I find it repeating in my head.
I can't feel whole .....

Thanks to the boys who shared their experiences. It really helps.

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dubby, the absolute one thing I've found is you need to talk to people. Even if it's just here. You need to let it out. Like I said, my biggest struggle is when I'm at home, as I live by myself. When that happens I fire off a few texts to understanding people who listen, or call somebody for a chat or SOMETHING. You just need to get that stuff out of your head and into someone else's ear (or eyes).

It really does work, it's like some kind of release.
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Thanks for sharing dubs, chin up, keep fighting.
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Kudos to you blokes - very pleasing to hear that things have gotten better.
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The Nickman wrote:dubby, the absolute one thing I've found is you need to talk to people. Even if it's just here. You need to let it out. Like I said, my biggest struggle is when I'm at home, as I live by myself. When that happens I fire off a few texts to understanding people who listen, or call somebody for a chat or SOMETHING. You just need to get that stuff out of your head and into someone else's ear (or eyes).

It really does work, it's like some kind of release.
This, I find, is the most important thing. I've been on and off medication and counseling for nearly 10 years now. The drugs help, but they take time to start working.

A few years back I ended up taking nearly 6 months off work to fix myself up.
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You should tell a few people in your workplace. I know it's hard though, a lot of people don't understand and think you just don't want to come to work.

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I had a meeting at work this morning. They're sending me to another psychologist to evaluate me.
From this, they'll be in a position to 'manage me better '. From there we'll see what happens. Thankfully there is an independent body that they employ that acts on my behalf and will implement a strategy to ensure I don't get mistreated and my employer acts in my best interests.
Worst case scenario, unsuitable for work.

I hate telling people about this. I just hate it. People have enough crap in their life without worrying about mine.
And when I started telling people, they told me to suck it up, man up, etc.

It really shows you the quality of a person when you try and share your vulnerability and struggles, and they dismiss it as flippant as that.

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Dubs, Hammock, Nickman and everyone else that has contributed to this thread, I applaud you opening up and sharing your experiences and feelings. Like Nickman has said a few times, that is part of the battle and the solution.

Whilst this doesn't affect me personally, I'm also happy to lend an ear or any support I can. I take it seriously and if the least I can do is try to empathise and be a Raiders friend, that's what I'll do.

GE and admin you should be proud that you have a website where people are comfortable enough to write the posts that they have in here. It's admirable. I know often that running the site is a thankless task, but in doing so you're providing things like this thread that just might help take the weight of the world off someone's shoulders, or even save lives. Well done.
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dubs, the best advice I have is that everybody, EVERYBODY has that one or two friends or family members, that for whatever reason, they're just always there to hear your "crap" (your words, not mine), and take it on board. Some people are just naturally better at that than others. You just need to identify who that is in your life.

I'm very fortunate to have several people like that in my life that I've leant on pretty heavily over the past few weeks and they really do help. You just need to find out who they are.
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Dubs i will happily corner you in your workplace if you ever need me to again.
Read back through this thread if you need to, there is some incredibly good advice and success stories from among your peers.

Green Hammock, anti depressant medication needs to be weaned slowly down, don't rush it that **** is scary when you get it wrong. The 1 i had gave me freakish side effects like an electric shock feeling when i was coming off if i got the dosage too low too quick.
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Bonehead, I've had that 'shock' feeling when starting!!

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Dubby hate to say it mate but we sound a lot alike, both put our hands up to help others yet hate putting our problems onto others.
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Pretty much, Mate.



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