2020 NRL Grand Final: Teams and Game Day

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Who will win?

Panthers 13+
0
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Panthers 1-12
1
17%
Storm 1-12
4
67%
Storm 13+
1
17%
 
Total votes: 6

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I watched the Fox commentary version late last night. The difference is actually immeasurable.
Fox runs absolute rings around 9. Smith is the most professional and best caller in the game; Warren is way past his prime. He is the Joe Biden of commentary. Sleepy Ray. His dribbling banter that he engages in with Gould, Fittler, Johns et al is the stuff of CIA hostage torture tactics.

Anasta, Ennis etc blew the 9 coverage out of the water. Most will never see it due to the rules that govern the GF live broadcast but seriously last night was horrible. Gould's continual assertion that Penrith were the better team and only unlucky at 16 and 22-0 down will go down in Australian commentary infamy as some the most biased and idiotic drivel ever uttered.

The difference between 9 and fox was like the difference in 89. I refuse to watch the abc commentary version yet when the old channel 10 version is on I can't get enough. Storm fans will feel the same no doubt about last night.
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Not enough emphasis on Ivan's decision to have Naden on the bench for the last two games. May was terrible last night. When Naden did come on he offered substance in attack.

Kikau should have been hooked as well.

Storm are a classy unit, although next year is going to be interesting without Smith (maybe) and arguably two of the best wingers in the competition in JAC and SV.
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Does anyone know why there all wearing goggles?
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Spraying beer/champagne in the dressing room probably. Very NBA-esque!
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I assumed they were beer goggles.
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Excellent defense by the storm. Big choke by the panthers. Would have been a farce if they came back and won it.
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Seiffert82 wrote: October 26, 2020, 7:56 am FWIW I think the Hughes sin bin was fair. At the ground I thought it was a harsh call, but on replay he wasn't subtle enough and shouldn't have dropped his hip into Kikau. Penriths first try was an obstruction though. Bad call there IMO.
Agreed.
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greeneyed wrote:
Colk wrote: October 26, 2020, 4:13 am Why was everybody going for the Storm? To me, it is completely dispiriting watching the Storm or the Roosters win every year and to be honest I can’t see it any different next year.
It says a lot that the Storm were preferred to the alternative. Arrogant, entitled team that had been handed a dream run by the NRL. Sydney. Greg Alexander. Cleary. 45 minutes to Artarmon.
Agreed, they've been carrying on like the champion elect for years. I hate them that much I was actively supporting the Storm like they were my own team.

Would've been better if they lost by 50..

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Yeah, I usually really like the Panthers and absolutely detest the Storm (like next level), but for some reason I really wanted the Storm to win that game. It was the weirdest thing ever. There was something a bit stinky about the Panthers this season.
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You can't go from missing the 8 to winning 17 straight the next season just by recruiting a hooker..

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Apparently get beer and stuff sprayed in your eyes makes it hard to see, or so claim the roosters after their recount of last years gf on fox


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Seiffert82 wrote:Yeah, I usually really like the Panthers and absolutely detest the Storm (like next level), but for some reason I really wanted the Storm to win that game. It was the weirdest thing ever. There was something a bit stinky about the Panthers this season.
I was the same. Panthers have carried on all year. Very cocky and very arrogant from the coach down.


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mobrulesall wrote:Not enough emphasis on Ivan's decision to have Naden on the bench for the last two games.
You mean Nathan's decision to start his best mate.

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Agree with all the comments about the Pamfers arrogance...
Coupled with their soft draw and lack of travel, I found myself barracking for the storm.
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Rick wrote:
Seiffert82 wrote:Yeah, I usually really like the Panthers and absolutely detest the Storm (like next level), but for some reason I really wanted the Storm to win that game. It was the weirdest thing ever. There was something a bit stinky about the Panthers this season.
I was the same. Panthers have carried on all year. Very cocky and very arrogant from the coach down.


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I also think the Panthers were cocky... they were manufacturing humbleness which i felt wasnt genuine. Next season will be telling for them.

I really question if we could have beaten Panthers in the this year. With the same gf side as last year i would have been more confident. I think both roosters and raiders were better last year than both the teams last night.

If we had a level playing field we could have done something this year (one simply cannot ignore the travel we had to do and not to mention the injuries).. all in all Storm deserved the win. Congrats to them.
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They left Sydney 4 times in the entire 24 weeks of the season, and had the audacity to whinge about Clearys 40 min drive to fox studios "ruining his preparation"

Cry a river

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Raider Azz wrote: October 26, 2020, 2:47 pm
mobrulesall wrote:Not enough emphasis on Ivan's decision to have Naden on the bench for the last two games.
You mean Nathan's decision to start his best mate.

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This is such a weird mindset/rumour.

It was all due to Naden’s brain explosion is the first final. But still I think it just have hurt the team’s mentality and thrown in the thought that things needed to be patched over to win the comp despite winning 16 straight.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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It takes balls from a coach to make hard decisions but the Naden/May call was a defensive and poor decision imo. If he’d lost all faith in May he should’ve reverted to Whare but it also appears Ivan doesn’t rate him either. Using a stop gap utility centre when you have 2 first grade standard ones in the 21 will always be a bad one imo. Gone are the days of ball play meaning anything for a first grade centre.
well, I guess you could say that I'm buy curious.
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julian87 wrote: This is such a weird mindset/rumour.

It was all due to Naden’s brain explosion is the first final. But still I think it just have hurt the team’s mentality and thrown in the thought that things needed to be patched over to win the comp despite winning 16 straight.
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gangrenous wrote: October 27, 2020, 6:56 am
julian87 wrote: This is such a weird mindset/rumour.

It was all due to Naden’s brain explosion is the first final. But still I think it just have hurt the team’s mentality and thrown in the thought that things needed to be patched over to win the comp despite winning 16 straight.
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Nope. They’d won 16 when he dropped Naden.
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I think the coaching (Nadan) decision should perhaps be parked.. you can argue that this coach made the club who they are today. Hat off to them for their achievements. Perhaps, a learning from it could be that while defense is always going to be critical the faster game today should put more consideration on attack.

Fully agree - they were very fortunate with the draw and how little travel they needed to do. This no doubt helped with the health of their players.
Raiders needed to fly to Brisbane to play Storm. Apparently some players rested on the floor in the corporate boxes before the game. Conservatively its 3 hours door to stadium for these players. Hardly an experience any player in a professional athlete should endure.

Being a Raiders tragic, I dont really care too much for Panthers, but their egos could hurt them a lot going forward. I believe this is also true for Parramatta. Both a little too cocky when they are flying.
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julian87 wrote: Nope. They’d won 16 when he dropped Naden.
Touché
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benda wrote:I think the coaching (Nadan) decision should perhaps be parked.. you can argue that this coach made the club who they are today. Hat off to them for their achievements. Perhaps, a learning from it could be that while defense is always going to be critical the faster game today should put more consideration on attack.

Fully agree - they were very fortunate with the draw and how little travel they needed to do. This no doubt helped with the health of their players.
Raiders needed to fly to Brisbane to play Storm. Apparently some players rested on the floor in the corporate boxes before the game. Conservatively its 3 hours door to stadium for these players. Hardly an experience any player in a professional athlete should endure.

Being a Raiders tragic, I dont really care too much for Panthers, but their egos could hurt them a lot going forward. I believe this is also true for Parramatta. Both a little too cocky when they are flying.
Cockyness isnt something you can just train out of people as well, if panthers get off to another good season next year, it will be the same all over again.

Their team from the coach to the players are simply cocky people, like the old toad has tried to pound into anyone who would listen to him, the large majority of that team, al played from under 7's together and were a very good talented successful team that rarely had any competition.

Anyone who goes theough 17 straight wins will feel on top of the world but its how you handle it shows what type of people you are and the panthers are just completely up them selfs.


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Surprised Kikau has got off quite lightly in the media reporting I’ve seen.

His game really epitomised the first half for the Panthers. He would look dangerous and then finish a play with an impatient decision (pass off the ground) or error (number of knock ons). You can’t do that in a GF against the Storm.

He’s a weapon, but Cleary needs to help him play a bit calmer in the big games.
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The storm are the first team in the nrl to win a Premiership after being kept to nil


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Kept to nil what?
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They got beaten 14-0 earlier in the year

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LOL. That's a meaningless stat, they were playing the Eels with a well below strength side at the time.
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Might be meaning less but something that commentators love to rave about every time a team is kept to zip


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They’ll have to change it up. No premier has ever been held to zip in a GF.
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gangrenous wrote: October 27, 2020, 11:28 am Surprised Kikau has got off quite lightly in the media reporting I’ve seen.

His game really epitomised the first half for the Panthers. He would look dangerous and then finish a play with an impatient decision (pass off the ground) or error (number of knock ons). You can’t do that in a GF against the Storm.

He’s a weapon, but Cleary needs to help him play a bit calmer in the big games.
Kikau was captain **** up for the majority of the game. Became a running joke among us watching on TV: "Kikau's got it. Here comes a turnover." He had an absolute shocker and a big reason Panthers were behind 26-0.

You're right, there's been virtually no media scrutiny of his performance.
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The best one was dropping it, giving away 6 again and then a penalty in the space of 20 seconds.

If it was a **** team it would have been a meme by now

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Still loving seeing Penrith lose the GF. I dislike the Storm but a combination of Ivan, his son, May, Brandy, Fat Toad, and their CEO who complained about playing on Saturday and not Friday in the Prelim Final and poor Nath's 45 min drive to Artarmon wanted me to see them lose. Ivan Cleary is an arrogant twat. Most unlikeable team in 2020 - Roosters and Broncos included. Ivan is more unlikeable than Wayne Bennett.
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