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Re: Brisbane Broncos 2020
Bet this all gets swept under the carpet.
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Agreed. It will be interesting to see how they handle this now the cat is out of the bag.
If what has been alleged is true, it's essentially a brown paper bag of cash organised by the club (contrary to the
TPA rules) and a clear systematic rorting of the salary cap. It's as blatant as it gets.
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With Pangai blowing the whistle it's going to be a lot harder for the NRL to let this one slide like they did with the Andrew Gee situation. Also with the Broncos stinking it up in every aspect they're not the same cash cow for the NRL as before.Seiffert82 wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 11:38 amAgreed. It will be interesting to see how they handle this now the cat is out of the bag.
If what has been alleged is true, it's essentially a brown paper bag of cash organised by the club (contrary to the
TPA rules) and a clear systematic rorting of the salary cap. It's as blatant as it gets.
For comparison this is more like the Eels cap breaches which were TPA payment related rather than the Storm which was secret ledger stuff.
Interesting side note. If TPJ has shown he's willing to spill the beans on his club when aggrieved you can put a line through the Roosters as a potential landing spot.
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indeed. Big red flags for uncle Nick.Northern Raider wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 12:50 pmWith Pangai blowing the whistle it's going to be a lot harder for the NRL to let this one slide like they did with the Andrew Gee situation. Also with the Broncos stinking it up in every aspect they're not the same cash cow for the NRL as before.Seiffert82 wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 11:38 amAgreed. It will be interesting to see how they handle this now the cat is out of the bag.
If what has been alleged is true, it's essentially a brown paper bag of cash organised by the club (contrary to the
TPA rules) and a clear systematic rorting of the salary cap. It's as blatant as it gets.
For comparison this is more like the Eels cap breaches which were TPA payment related rather than the Storm which was secret ledger stuff.
Interesting side note. If TPJ has shown he's willing to spill the beans on his club when aggrieved you can put a line through the Roosters as a potential landing spot.
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Broncos to receive some meaningless penalty like having their points stripped for 2020 no doubt
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If it's anything like normal NRL transmission nothing will happen, absolutely nothing. Then the NRL will come down hard on 4 other clubs for being 20k over.gangrenous wrote:Broncos to receive some meaningless penalty like having their points stripped for 2020 no doubt
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I absolutely and wholeheartedly agree with you gergreg.gergreg wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 7:02 pmIf it's anything like normal NRL transmission nothing will happen, absolutely nothing. Then the NRL will come down hard on 4 other clubs for being 20k over.gangrenous wrote:Broncos to receive some meaningless penalty like having their points stripped for 2020 no doubt
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Agreed, and around we go. The more things change the more they stay the same. Nothing will ever change until the the NRL change the way player payments work. The TPA system is asking to be rorted and the penalties are inconsistent.greeneyed wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 7:21 pmI absolutely and wholeheartedly agree with you gergreg.gergreg wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 7:02 pmIf it's anything like normal NRL transmission nothing will happen, absolutely nothing. Then the NRL will come down hard on 4 other clubs for being 20k over.gangrenous wrote:Broncos to receive some meaningless penalty like having their points stripped for 2020 no doubt
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Finite... I like seeing the "old" posters posting! And I absolutely and wholeheartedly agree with you. I have been writing about this for a long time. And we seem to take one step forward, and two steps back. Looks like the topic for this week's TGE.Finite wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 7:43 pmAgreed, and around we go. The more things change the more they stay the same. Nothing will ever change until the the NRL change the way player payments work. The TPA system is asking to be rorted and the penalties are inconsistent.greeneyed wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 7:21 pmI absolutely and wholeheartedly agree with you gergreg.gergreg wrote: ↑August 25, 2020, 7:02 pmIf it's anything like normal NRL transmission nothing will happen, absolutely nothing. Then the NRL will come down hard on 4 other clubs for being 20k over.gangrenous wrote:Broncos to receive some meaningless penalty like having their points stripped for 2020 no doubt
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TPAs remain the most exploitable loophole in the NRL. Not sure anything will change either. While V'landys is the right person to drive the game forward I don't see any motivation for him to address this part. He views things from a purely commercial level. He won't care about perceptions of fairness and equity provided the the NRL succeeds in a business landscape.
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Awaiting the live pressa with Anthony Seibold.
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I hope he delivers a wolf of wall street type speech
"You know what? I’m not leaving. I’m not leaving… I’m not f****** leaving!
THE SHOW GOES ON!"
"You know what? I’m not leaving. I’m not leaving… I’m not f****** leaving!
THE SHOW GOES ON!"
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Re: Brisbane Broncos 2020
Anthony Seibold officially steps down as Brisbane Broncos coach
Anthony Seibold has officially stepped down, effective immediately, as Broncos coach.
Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/08/26/sei ... m-broncos/
Brisbane Broncos club statement
Anthony Seibold has chosen to step down from the Broncos Coaching role, effective immediately.
Broncos CEO Paul White said: “As you are aware, Anthony spent the last two weeks in home isolation after having to step out of the Project Apollo bubble for a serious family matter.
“During that time, Anthony has reflected on his role at the Broncos and the impact it is having on his life away from rugby league.
“As a result, Anthony approached Chairman Karl Morris late last week to indicate he did not wish to continue as Coach of the Brisbane Broncos.
“The Board understands Anthony’s situation and has accepted his wishes to step down from the position.
“The role as coach of the Broncos is one of the most high-profile and high-pressure in Australian sport, and Anthony has performed admirably since starting in late 2018.
“But the levels of scrutiny – some of it bordering on hysterical, if not slanderous in recent times – have placed a heavy burden on Anthony and his family.
“As a Club, we have endeavoured to support Anthony and his loved ones through all of this.
“But at the end of the day only Anthony can understand what it is like to walk in the shoes of a Broncos Coach, and live with he highs and lows of the role.
“On a personal note, I would like to thank Anthony for the tremendous amount of effort and diligence he has poured into the job during his time at the Broncos.
“He can certainly coach, he will coach again, and he is also a very good man.
“He has always acted with the utmost professionalism and ushered in a new generation of stars who will become household names for our Club in the future.
“As a Club, we wish Anthony and his family all the best in the future.
“For the remainder of the season, Peter Gentle will continue to coach the team, as he has done for the past fortnight.
“The Board will begin the search for a new coach immediately but we will not place a timeline on that process.”
Anthony Seibold, who addressed players and staff this morning before speaking with media, said: “Last week, I made the decision to finish my tenure as coach of the Brisbane Broncos. Today, I am announcing that I will be stepping down from the role immediately.
“I was honoured to be appointed Brisbane Broncos coach at the end of 2018. This was the club where I started my Rugby League journey as a young man and it’s a club that I have always admired.
“For many reasons, my time at the Broncos did not work out as we had all hoped. But that’s sport. We love sport because it’s full of uncertainty. And rugby league seems to throw up uncertainty better than any sport I know.
“People ask me if there are things I’d change about the last two seasons. None of that matters right now.
“I gave it my best at the Broncos and I am responsible for where we currently are. Head coaches know that there is no finger-pointing and no deflection of blame when a club struggles.
“These events haven’t dampened my enthusiasm for coaching or wanting to help others achieve. In fact, they have made me more determined. Head coaching in the NRL isn’t for the faint of heart. I know that. And I know that I’ll be a better coach, a better leader and a better person for all that I have learnt over these last three seasons at South Sydney and Brisbane.
“I have very much appreciated the messages of support from many people over the last two weeks. I want to thank them, and I want to let them know that I’m doing ok.
“I have appreciated the opportunity to coach the Broncos. I thank Karl Morris and Paul White for their work and their advice throughout my time here. They run a very successful club and they should be proud of what the Broncos achieve in shaping so many lives for the better across Queensland. This club is more than what happens on the football field and I’ve been privileged to see that up close.
“I thank the Broncos fans. I’ve had plenty of well-wishers and I’ve had plenty who haven’t been as impressed. Sport only succeeds because of the passion of the fans. Without them, we have nothing.
“Most of all, I’m appreciative of the opportunity to be a football coach, working with young men towards a common goal. I thank my players over these last two seasons for their effort, for their camaraderie and for their passion for playing football. Our game is a brutal game physically.
“I take pride in the fact I have given NRL debuts to twelve young men over the past thirty-eight games that I have been Head Coach of the Broncos. There were also another eight players with less than twelve games when I arrived and to see many of them develop over this period into NRL players and in some cases representative players has made the many personal challenges very worthwhile.”
Anthony Seibold has officially stepped down, effective immediately, as Broncos coach.
Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/08/26/sei ... m-broncos/
Brisbane Broncos club statement
Anthony Seibold has chosen to step down from the Broncos Coaching role, effective immediately.
Broncos CEO Paul White said: “As you are aware, Anthony spent the last two weeks in home isolation after having to step out of the Project Apollo bubble for a serious family matter.
“During that time, Anthony has reflected on his role at the Broncos and the impact it is having on his life away from rugby league.
“As a result, Anthony approached Chairman Karl Morris late last week to indicate he did not wish to continue as Coach of the Brisbane Broncos.
“The Board understands Anthony’s situation and has accepted his wishes to step down from the position.
“The role as coach of the Broncos is one of the most high-profile and high-pressure in Australian sport, and Anthony has performed admirably since starting in late 2018.
“But the levels of scrutiny – some of it bordering on hysterical, if not slanderous in recent times – have placed a heavy burden on Anthony and his family.
“As a Club, we have endeavoured to support Anthony and his loved ones through all of this.
“But at the end of the day only Anthony can understand what it is like to walk in the shoes of a Broncos Coach, and live with he highs and lows of the role.
“On a personal note, I would like to thank Anthony for the tremendous amount of effort and diligence he has poured into the job during his time at the Broncos.
“He can certainly coach, he will coach again, and he is also a very good man.
“He has always acted with the utmost professionalism and ushered in a new generation of stars who will become household names for our Club in the future.
“As a Club, we wish Anthony and his family all the best in the future.
“For the remainder of the season, Peter Gentle will continue to coach the team, as he has done for the past fortnight.
“The Board will begin the search for a new coach immediately but we will not place a timeline on that process.”
Anthony Seibold, who addressed players and staff this morning before speaking with media, said: “Last week, I made the decision to finish my tenure as coach of the Brisbane Broncos. Today, I am announcing that I will be stepping down from the role immediately.
“I was honoured to be appointed Brisbane Broncos coach at the end of 2018. This was the club where I started my Rugby League journey as a young man and it’s a club that I have always admired.
“For many reasons, my time at the Broncos did not work out as we had all hoped. But that’s sport. We love sport because it’s full of uncertainty. And rugby league seems to throw up uncertainty better than any sport I know.
“People ask me if there are things I’d change about the last two seasons. None of that matters right now.
“I gave it my best at the Broncos and I am responsible for where we currently are. Head coaches know that there is no finger-pointing and no deflection of blame when a club struggles.
“These events haven’t dampened my enthusiasm for coaching or wanting to help others achieve. In fact, they have made me more determined. Head coaching in the NRL isn’t for the faint of heart. I know that. And I know that I’ll be a better coach, a better leader and a better person for all that I have learnt over these last three seasons at South Sydney and Brisbane.
“I have very much appreciated the messages of support from many people over the last two weeks. I want to thank them, and I want to let them know that I’m doing ok.
“I have appreciated the opportunity to coach the Broncos. I thank Karl Morris and Paul White for their work and their advice throughout my time here. They run a very successful club and they should be proud of what the Broncos achieve in shaping so many lives for the better across Queensland. This club is more than what happens on the football field and I’ve been privileged to see that up close.
“I thank the Broncos fans. I’ve had plenty of well-wishers and I’ve had plenty who haven’t been as impressed. Sport only succeeds because of the passion of the fans. Without them, we have nothing.
“Most of all, I’m appreciative of the opportunity to be a football coach, working with young men towards a common goal. I thank my players over these last two seasons for their effort, for their camaraderie and for their passion for playing football. Our game is a brutal game physically.
“I take pride in the fact I have given NRL debuts to twelve young men over the past thirty-eight games that I have been Head Coach of the Broncos. There were also another eight players with less than twelve games when I arrived and to see many of them develop over this period into NRL players and in some cases representative players has made the many personal challenges very worthwhile.”
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Re: Brisbane Broncos 2020
No ones asking the big questions here..
The release of Josh Maguire, Kodi Nikorima and many many others.
They're salary cap is a disaster.
The release of Josh Maguire, Kodi Nikorima and many many others.
They're salary cap is a disaster.
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Q. Was Anthony Seibold sacked or did he stand down ?
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Yes-PJ- wrote:Q. Was Anthony Seibold sacked or did he stand down ?
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Broncos ban Pangai for season but forward avoids the sack
Tevita Pangai jnr has been suspended by the Broncos for the rest of the season without pay and he will be able to play with the club in 2021 provided he fulfils certain conditions.
Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/08/31/bro ... orkContent
TPJ stood down by broncos for the rest of his season without pay, not sure if that includes his illegal 3rd party or not
Must fulfil a list of conditions to be able to play for them again next season including "stop leaking illegal 3rd party payments to the integrity unit"
Tevita Pangai jnr has been suspended by the Broncos for the rest of the season without pay and he will be able to play with the club in 2021 provided he fulfils certain conditions.
Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/08/31/bro ... orkContent
TPJ stood down by broncos for the rest of his season without pay, not sure if that includes his illegal 3rd party or not
Must fulfil a list of conditions to be able to play for them again next season including "stop leaking illegal 3rd party payments to the integrity unit"
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It's been a couple of days so...
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First season they’ve lost twice to the Titans
Gina Riley: Oh, come on, John. That’s a bit old hat, the corrupt IOC delegate.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
John Clarke: Old hat? Gina, in the scientific world when they see that something is happening again and again and again, repeatedly, they don’t call it old hat. They call it a pattern.
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We need these Gumbys to beat Parra? Forget it.
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Good morning Donkeys..
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PJ. I think you missed an opportunity. It should be 'Good morning *record breaking* Donkeys'.
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The 2020 Donkeys are certainly my favourite Broncos team of all time
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I'll never forget 2020..
Coronavirus
Turning 50
Donkeys
It's been a ride..
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You don't look a day over 25!
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Good quality moisturiser rep..no cheap stuff.
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The only way I could love them anymore would be if they could beat the eels next weekDr Zaius wrote:The 2020 Donkeys are certainly my favourite Broncos team of all time
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I had been cheering for a Dogs win so Broncos would get the spoon. Priorities have since changed and I'm a big Broncos fan this week. Go Donkeys!!!!The Nickman wrote: ↑September 14, 2020, 1:18 pmThe only way I could love them anymore would be if they could beat the eels next weekDr Zaius wrote:The 2020 Donkeys are certainly my favourite Broncos team of all time
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Haha me too, **** bulldogs have had enough **** chances... Let's go Broncos!!Northern Raider wrote: ↑September 14, 2020, 3:08 pmI had been cheering for a Dogs win so Broncos would get the spoon. Priorities have since changed and I'm a big Broncos fan this week. Go Donkeys!!!!The Nickman wrote: ↑September 14, 2020, 1:18 pmThe only way I could love them anymore would be if they could beat the eels next weekDr Zaius wrote:The 2020 Donkeys are certainly my favourite Broncos team of all time
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I'll allow a Donkeys victory..but just one.
Sorry Doggies but we have priorities.
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Re: Brisbane Broncos 2020
Da Dada da Dada da da dada DaThe Nickman wrote:Haha me too, **** bulldogs have had enough **** chances... Let's go Broncos!!Northern Raider wrote: ↑September 14, 2020, 3:08 pmI had been cheering for a Dogs win so Broncos would get the spoon. Priorities have since changed and I'm a big Broncos fan this week. Go Donkeys!!!!The Nickman wrote: ↑September 14, 2020, 1:18 pmThe only way I could love them anymore would be if they could beat the eels next weekDr Zaius wrote:The 2020 Donkeys are certainly my favourite Broncos team of all time
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