2019 State of Origin II: Queensland V New South Wales

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Who will win?

Queensland Maroons 13+
0
No votes
Queensland Maroons 1-12
3
27%
Draw
0
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New South Wales Blues 1-12
2
18%
New South Wales Blues 13+
6
55%
 
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Re: 2019 State of Origin II: Queensland V New South Wales

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afgtnk wrote:
edwahu wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:44 pm Great tackle by Jack there
Absolute pearler and got no credit for it
It was a brilliant tackle

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If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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The Rickman wrote:
dubby wrote:
The Rickman wrote:
dubby wrote:
The Rickman wrote:So who would’ve thought they should’ve played their winning halves from last year, hey??
Sadly these halves were in poor form, right up until recently

I do agree they should have selected them regardless.

And thank you for being somewhat dignified in defeat

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Why wouldn’t I be? NSW has absolutely dominated Queensland and thoroughly deserve the win. The referees have been completely fine

I don’t view origin games any different than I view raiders games or any other game of rugby league

Bring on Game 3, we’ll be better for it. I’m actually glad this was a smashing
Why are you glad it's a smashing? Just curious.

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Because Queensland needs to be better, and they’ll realise they need to be better and after this smashing NSW will crow like they’ve already won the series

It’s exactly what Queensland needs
Fairy nuff.

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The spiral of silence refers to the idea that when people fail to speak, the price of speaking rises. As the price to speak rises, still fewer speak out, which further causes the price to rise, so that fewer people yet will speak out, until a whole culture or nation is silenced. This is what happened in Germany.

If you do not speak, you are not being neutral, but are contributing to the success of the thing you refuse to name and condemn.
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Well that was dominant
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FULL TIME

New South Wales Blues 38
Queensland Maroons 6

Blues crush Maroons in Perth to keep Origin series alive

After a week of intense criticism and questioning, Brad Fittler's controversial selections, and non-selections, have been justified after NSW kept the series alive with an emphatic 38-6 win against Queensland in Perth on Sunday night. The Maroons were totally outclassed and out-enthused by a NSW team that had spent an entire week working on working harder.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/23/ori ... ch-report/

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14239

How Jack Wighton reached out to Canberra Raiders captain Jarrod Croker for tips on mastering centre

As Jack Wighton prepared for his left-centre cameo on Sunday night in Origin II, he quickly reached out to his Canberra captain for a few pointers on mastering the position.

"We're good mates, we've played so much footy together. He's such a great guy. I know how much it means to him. I was so proud of him the first time he was selected. I'm not a coach but I had a feeling he'd be in the starting side somewhere [for Perth].

Read more: https://amp.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wighto ... RqeT7RmZuA
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Now let's hear the word "dynasty" come out.
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The Rickman wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:26 pm So who would’ve thought they should’ve played their winning halves from last year, hey??
Even when you're wrong you're right, positively Trumpian.
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No rocks or diamonds for Jack tonight. Pretty much mistake free apart from the penalty try and nothing outstanding - just a very solid performance. He holds the jumper for game 3 in my eyes.
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hobbsy wrote: June 16, 2019, 7:47 pm This NSW team will cop it in the media and from fans all week with the changes, people will say QLD have it in the bag. The Blues will go into siege mentality mode and come out to rip heads off and prove everyone wrong, coming away with a big win. Freddy is a genius, this will go down in history!
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the bone wrote:
Begbie wrote:
The Rickman wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:26 pm
gergreg wrote:You've really got to wonder. Refs clearly favoured QLD in game 1 and then balancing it up tonight.

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No they didn’t, Queensland was clearly the better team in Game 1 and NSW have absolutely dominated tonight
Exactly. Just because a team gets the penalties doesn't mean they are being favoured.
I think there are few rugby league fans that understand this concept. The notion that the penalty count should be equal is ridiculous


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I think most fans agree. The refs don't.

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Well done Jack for a very good game. It was night and day in terms of that performance and Mitchell's. I'd say he will be in the side for a long time now.

Papa had a tough night but it must be tough when he is basically their only decent prop. They really need Arrow back.

Maloney man of the match for mine.
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hobbsy wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:51 pm
hobbsy wrote: June 16, 2019, 7:47 pm This NSW team will cop it in the media and from fans all week with the changes, people will say QLD have it in the bag. The Blues will go into siege mentality mode and come out to rip heads off and prove everyone wrong, coming away with a big win. Freddy is a genius, this will go down in history!
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Great call Hobbsy!
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NSW speed in the backs really troubled Queensland.

Much better ball movement by NSW compared game 1.
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RTW wrote:
dubby wrote:
The Rickman wrote:
dubby wrote:
The Rickman wrote:So who would’ve thought they should’ve played their winning halves from last year, hey??
Sadly these halves were in poor form, right up until recently

I do agree they should have selected them regardless.

And thank you for being somewhat dignified in defeat

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Why wouldn’t I be? NSW has absolutely dominated Queensland and thoroughly deserve the win. The referees have been completely fine

I don’t view origin games any different than I view raiders games or any other game of rugby league

Bring on Game 3, we’ll be better for it. I’m actually glad this was a smashing
Why are you glad it's a smashing? Just curious.

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I imagine because if it is close it glosses over some of the weaknesses in QLD’s game. Coupled with the pride that they normally play with you won’t see them play this bad two games on a row.


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Yup, absolutely. Queensland will fire up for Game 3 and NSW will carry on for two weeks like they’ve already won the series

It’s a win/win
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Funny how quick you go from roosters to feather dusters - some big question marks over a few players in maroon now. Morgan’s not a centre, Hunt gives away too much to Cook, McGuire is a grub that doesn’t offer much. I suspect Qld will stick but I think it will cost them. I’d say the rain helped Qld. On a dry track Carr, Turbo and Teddy are unstoppable.
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Now for 2 weeks of wind getting blown up the Blues ass and see them phone it in for game 3.
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Northern Raider wrote:Now let's hear the word "dynasty" come out.
Hahaha exactly
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Northern Raider wrote:Now for 2 weeks of wind getting blown up the Blues ass and see them phone it in for game 3.
Hahahahaha I love Origin so much
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I doubt Freedie will change that team. Might be good for Jack and tough luck for Cotric.
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Jack looked fresh as a daisy post match and Papa seemed injury free. Gotta be happy with that!
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QLD didn't want to do the tough stuff up the middle while NSW thrived on it. Game set match right there.
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Thing is NR, not everyone believes the trollop that Rothfield etc dish up in the media. They're honestly idiots.

This was a better nsw team.
Qld weren't on tonight. They just weren't for whatever reason. They're a better team than that, and they'll fight back.

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Billy Walker wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:58 pm Jack looked fresh as a daisy post match and Papa seemed injury free. Gotta be happy with that!
That's the most important part.
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dubby wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:32 pm
The Rickman wrote:So who would’ve thought they should’ve played their winning halves from last year, hey??
Sadly these halves were in poor form, right up until recently

I do agree they should have selected them regardless.

And thank you for being somewhat dignified in defeat

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I wasn't too fussed if Nathan Cleary stayed or went.

Maloney on the other hand - absolute stinker of a decision to leave him out given his overall class and how influential he was last year. He's comfortably the best halves NSW have got and with only a few exceptions should be picked in every game he's available for.
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Northern Raider wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:59 pm
Billy Walker wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:58 pm Jack looked fresh as a daisy post match and Papa seemed injury free. Gotta be happy with that!
That's the most important part.
I'd think about resting Papa or at least reducing his minutes vs Eels. He looked a bit tired in that first stint.
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Every man and his dog seemed to think dropping Mitchell was the wrong call

It paid off. Credit to Freddy
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Dimes wrote: June 23, 2019, 10:02 pm Every man and his dog seemed to think dropping Mitchell was the wrong call

It paid off. Credit to Freddy
Even when Freddy explained why he was still getting bagged. It was always the right call.
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Dimes wrote: June 23, 2019, 10:02 pm Every man and his dog seemed to think dropping Mitchell was the wrong call

It paid off. Credit to Freddy
QLD might have been lucky Mitchell wasn't playing the way that panned out.
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edwahu wrote: June 23, 2019, 10:00 pm
Northern Raider wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:59 pm
Billy Walker wrote: June 23, 2019, 9:58 pm Jack looked fresh as a daisy post match and Papa seemed injury free. Gotta be happy with that!
That's the most important part.
I'd think about resting Papa or at least reducing his minutes vs Eels. He looked a bit tired in that first stint.
Yeah he has been immense all year and he did seem a bit sluggish at times tonight but had a fair crack. We should have players coming back to allow us to manage him if needed
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Out of curiosity, if the penalty try wasn’t awarded, was the alternative a penalty and Jack in the bin for 10 minutes? I imagine the penalty try is the lesser penalty of those two scenarios?
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It didn't really matter tonight as there starting pack (did Napa actually play?)was destroyed but qld need some better bench options , surely they can't win with a bench makeup of Mbye, Wallace and Glasby,
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kiwi raider wrote: June 23, 2019, 10:16 pm It didn't really matter tonight as there starting pack (did Napa actually play?)was destroyed but qld need some better bench options , surely they can't win with a bench makeup of Mbye, Wallace and Glasby,
I can honestly say I can’t recall a single thing Napa did.
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kiwi raider wrote:It didn't really matter tonight as there starting pack (did Napa actually play?)was destroyed but qld need some better bench options , surely they can't win with a bench makeup of Mbye, Wallace and Glasby,
Yeah totally. This has been Wallace 4th origin and he just simply isn’t up to it. Why Kevin picked him along side Glasby was just strange. No fire power there to keep the roll on going. Napa or Papilii really needed to be one of the interchange players wth that bench line up


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Billy Walker wrote:Out of curiosity, if the penalty try wasn’t awarded, was the alternative a penalty and Jack in the bin for 10 minutes? I imagine the penalty try is the lesser penalty of those two scenarios?
Yes, It would be interesting if you gave the opposition the choice of penalty try or man in the bin. What way teams would go.


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NSW spirit wins out in the end


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kiwi raider wrote: June 23, 2019, 10:16 pm It didn't really matter tonight as there starting pack (did Napa actually play?)was destroyed but qld need some better bench options , surely they can't win with a bench makeup of Mbye, Wallace and Glasby,
Does Coen Hess offer anything? I thought he burst onto the scene like a champ but he doesn’t seem to be a world beater there days. Agree they need more though - some plodders out there tonight in maroon.
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