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Where will the Dragons finish in 2019?

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by zim » March 12, 2019, 6:50 pm

The injunction application became moot once the new no fault rule was ratified.

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Post by greeneyed » March 13, 2019, 7:32 am

Jack de Belin court proceedings

The Federal Court has today set down 16 April for a final hearing of the proceedings brought by Jack de Belin challenging the application to him of the NRL’s No Fault Stand Down Rule.

In these circumstances, Mr de Belin’s application for interlocutory relief and the hearing set down for Thursday, 14 March 2019 will not take place.

In the interim the No Fault Stand Down Rule will continue to apply to Jack de Belin and he will be stood down during this period.

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by gergreg » April 17, 2019, 9:03 am

According to the DT Saints are looking to extend Paul McGregor. Won 3 on the trot, definitely worth extending.

DeBelin also in court against the NRL stand down.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280
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Post by greeneyed » April 18, 2019, 10:25 am

St George Illawarra Dragons re-sign Paul McGregor until end of 2021

St George Illawarra have officially announced that Paul McGregor will remain coach of the Dragons for a further two seasons following the completion of all necessary documentation.

McGregor's new contract will see him remain at the Dragons at least until the end of the 2021 NRL Telstra Premiership season.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/04/18/dra ... d-of-2021/
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Post by RTW » April 18, 2019, 12:38 pm

Wonderful news for the supporters of 15 clubs.


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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by The Rickman » April 18, 2019, 12:39 pm

Haha I swear the dragons do this every year about April and then want to sack him by finals time and his future is always in doubt over the off-season!
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Post by gangrenous » April 18, 2019, 12:39 pm

RTW wrote:Wonderful news for the supporters of 15 clubs.


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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » April 18, 2019, 4:44 pm

gergreg wrote:According to the DT Saints are looking to extend Paul McGregor. Won 3 on the trot, definitely worth extending.

DeBelin also in court against the NRL stand down.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/ ... /?cs=14280
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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by zim » April 18, 2019, 5:20 pm

It's only valid if you think there's no plus to the NRL gaining those sponsorship dollars. What's the plus for the NRL if JDB plays? Zero.
Sure the money could come from cleaner sources but the NRL obviously thinks the money is worth the cons.

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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » April 18, 2019, 6:16 pm

Yeah, but what are the pluses? Are they seriously going to say in court “Sure, we’re losing fans because of the alcohol and gambling sponsors, but on the positive, the NRL is making money from alcohol and gambling companies”?


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Post by zim » April 18, 2019, 7:07 pm

Fuifui Bradbrad wrote:
April 18, 2019, 6:16 pm
Yeah, but what are the pluses? Are they seriously going to say in court “Sure, we’re losing fans because of the alcohol and gambling sponsors, but on the positive, the NRL is making money from alcohol and gambling companies”?
The plus is the amount of money.
Surely they can't argue those 2 things are in the same ballpark. Rape accusations vs sponsorship deals from those industries. They're also losing fans because of expensive pies. Maybe that will come up.

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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » April 18, 2019, 7:29 pm

Well I guess if they could prove the number of fans lost due to expensive pies is comparable to rape accusations and gambling money, sure.
I don’t have the data to compare lost fans due to these accusations vs lost fans due to alcohol and gambling sponsorship.

But if they’re comparable, and Toddy G comes out with “It’s different because of the amount of money we take off those companies.” I don’t think it’ll fly. It’d be like saying the fans don’t matter in that case, because we’re getting paid*.

You would imagine they’d have NPS data that could compare the detractors between both causes, and conclude if they’re comparable.

FWIW, I don’t necessarily agree with the point, because Alcohol and Gambling aren’t criminal, I just think if “We’re losing fans as a result of this” is their argument, they used the wrong argument.

They would have been better saying something like “This stand down policy is to endorse our stance against violence to women. We’re White Ribbon ambassadors, and do what we can to endorse the cause. What JDB has done goes against this value”

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by raiderskater » April 19, 2019, 10:03 am

de Belin's argument was literally "controversy is good for the game" and "the NRL never educated me about not committing violence against women".

His lawyer literally compared McEnroe yelling at an umpire with a charge of gang rape.

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by pickles » April 19, 2019, 11:43 am

Hopefully the court uphold the NRL decision on this. I’m not arguing about guilt or innocence but if you are putting yourself in a position where you could be charged by police with sexual assault then you shouldn’t be in the game.

Clearly an internal moral compass isn’t enough for some of these guys so if you want behaviour to change you need to threaten their careers. Also if clubs know they risk losing a player for a long time over these kind incidents they will drum it into their thick heads until it finally hits home.

These meat heads get paid well over the odds because of the value of the NRL as a brand. It’s not about being role models, it’s about not damaging the value of the brand. The upshot fro society is that generally this equates with not being an ****!

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by gergreg » April 19, 2019, 12:55 pm

Agreed Pickles. It would be interesting to see how the NRL would react if they lose this case. Honestly what is stopping them from turning around and deregistering him completely? Surely the NRL has the right to say that a particular player is damaging to their brand and they don't want that player associated with the brand.

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by zim » May 17, 2019, 4:54 pm

Jack de Belin loses Federal Court case against NRL leaving career in limbo

St George Illawarra star Jack de Belin has failed in his bid to overturn the NRL’s ‘no fault’ stand down policy in Federal Court, leaving his career in limbo as he answers a rape charge. Justice Melissa Perry handed down her judgement into de Belin’s case against the NRL and ARL Commission at 4pm on Friday.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... 5917aead3e

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by zim » May 17, 2019, 4:55 pm

Got that legal precedent now baby.

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by greeneyed » May 17, 2019, 4:57 pm

I expected that, but the NRL will be breathing a sigh of relief.
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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by The Rickman » May 17, 2019, 5:07 pm

Haha suck **** De Bellin you piece of human filth.

A great day too, I see Folau got his as well, the other piece of human filth.
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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by BJ » May 17, 2019, 5:52 pm

zim wrote:Got that legal precedent now baby.
Who would of thought a sporting body can make the rules for their own sport?

If De Bellin won I was going to legally challenge the International Cricket Committee to introduce 6 and out.

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by edwahu » May 17, 2019, 6:37 pm

BJ wrote:
May 17, 2019, 5:52 pm
zim wrote:Got that legal precedent now baby.
Who would of thought a sporting body can make the rules for their own sport?
Not Terry Hill.

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Re: St George Illawarra Dragons 2019

Post by BJ » May 17, 2019, 7:37 pm

edwahu wrote:
BJ wrote:
May 17, 2019, 5:52 pm
zim wrote:Got that legal precedent now baby.
Who would of thought a sporting body can make the rules for their own sport?
Not Terry Hill.
Good point!

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