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Where will the Sharks finish in 2019?

Minor premiers
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Top four
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Top eight
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29%
Bottom eight
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57%
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Wooden spoon/least wins
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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by greeneyed » January 31, 2019, 5:51 pm

Cronulla Sharks appoint John Morris as head coach

John Morris is expected to be unveiled as Cronulla's new head coach on Friday after seemingly winning the race to replace Shane Flanagan.

It's believed that Morris is in the midst of finalising the deal, beating out the likes of Penrith assistant Cameron Ciraldo and St Helens' Justin Holbrook for the coveted job.

Read more: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/ennis-call ... c2d7cfb90b

Cronulla are close to offering John Morris the coaching role on a fulltime basis - but it may only be for one year in a trial by fire: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/cronulla-s ... 25d5c260e2
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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by gergreg » January 31, 2019, 6:46 pm

greeneyed wrote:No Matt, what the Sharks need to do is start showing some integrity.
If only they had a few more QLDers in their squad so you could overlook their shortcomings?

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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by zim » February 1, 2019, 11:18 am

I would have thought the board would want to cut ties with all Flanagan coaching related issues. Not just hire his protege.

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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by greeneyed » February 1, 2019, 3:19 pm

Cronulla Sharks confirm John Morris as new coach

John Morris says he's up for the challenge of a "massive year ahead" after being confirmed as the new coach of the Cronulla Sharks.

Morris, who has signed a three-year deal as Cronulla's new coach following Shane Flanagan's resignation last month, said his expectation was for the Sharks to finish in the top four this year.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/02/01/mas ... new-coach/
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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by greeneyed » February 26, 2019, 12:32 pm

James Segeyaro signs on with Cronulla Sharks for 2019

James Segeyaro returned to Sharks training on Tuesday morning with a deal for 2019 over the line, having spent the summer in limbo due to Cronulla’s impending salary cap punishment.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/02/26/seg ... -upgraded/
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Post by LimeGreenMachine » February 27, 2019, 7:40 am

Sharks brace for heavy penalties as NRL uncovers multiple cap breaches

The NRL's salary cap probe into the Sharks has uncovered discrepancies beyond the one it self-reported to the integrity unit as the club braces for another heavy sanction from head office, one likely to have implications on this year's squad.

On the same day James Segeyaro returned to Cronulla training in the hope of resurrecting his NRL career, it emerged the Papua New Guinea international has been given no guarantee his contract will be registered pending the outcome of the salary cap investigation.

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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by gergreg » February 27, 2019, 8:07 am

The NRL do themselves no favours by ignoring the elephant in the room. The NRL salary cap does not work the way it is currently being managed. The game lurches from one **** up to the next. This breach was only uncovered because of an 'inside man'. The usual checks and balances uncovered absolutely nothing untoward and never has in the NRL. If you put an 'inside man' at every single club I bet they find every single club is in some way breaching the rules.
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Post by LimeGreenMachine » February 27, 2019, 8:20 am

All the breaches have been tip offs , not initially detected by the NRL

I think its time the NRL take control of all contracts , therefore no grants to the clubs.

Clubs can work off a point system per player or another model either way the NRL handles the money.

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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by -PJ- » February 27, 2019, 8:26 am

You won't be able to wipe the smile from my face...

The fines will render this disgrace of a club inoperable..and good riddance to them.

Big day tomorrow, bring it on.
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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by Northern Raider » February 27, 2019, 8:29 am

gergreg wrote:
February 27, 2019, 8:07 am
The NRL do themselves no favours by ignoring the elephant in the room. The NRL salary cap does not work the way it is currently being managed. The game lurches from one **** up to the next. This breach was only uncovered because of an 'inside man'. The usual checks and balances uncovered absolutely nothing untoward and never has in the NRL. If you put an 'inside man' at every single club I bet they find every single club is in some way breaching the rules.
100%. We've seen far too many cases of cap rorting go undetected via the regular processes. A sure sign the system is faulty. Real problem is there's no moves to rectify it. They are content to sit and wait for whistleblowers.
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Post by -PJ- » February 27, 2019, 8:32 am

Barry Russell self reports salary cap dramas.

Sharks self implode..

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Post by Northern Raider » February 27, 2019, 8:40 am

Article says fines of $500k being mooted. Seems light compared to what the Tigers copped for offering Farah a post career job.
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Post by -PJ- » February 27, 2019, 8:41 am

Eventually..

That 2016 premiership will be stripped as well..

You can't tell me that's clean considering seasons either side of 2016 are dirty !!

Mick Ennis will be devo.
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » February 27, 2019, 9:10 am

LimeGreenMachine wrote:All the breaches have been tip offs , not initially detected by the NRL

I think its time the NRL take control of all contracts , therefore no grants to the clubs.

Clubs can work off a point system per player or another model either way the NRL handles the money.
Yeah there has to be a system where the NRL manages the contracts and can better track the money each club is spending.

So Club A makes an offer to a player, submits it to the NRL, who then approves or rejects based on whether there’s money in the reserves.
You could even have accountants on both sides of the fence to ensure the club and the NRL are on the same page

And when that happens, I want that job
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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by gergreg » February 27, 2019, 9:14 am

Northern Raider wrote:
gergreg wrote:
February 27, 2019, 8:07 am
The NRL do themselves no favours by ignoring the elephant in the room. The NRL salary cap does not work the way it is currently being managed. The game lurches from one **** up to the next. This breach was only uncovered because of an 'inside man'. The usual checks and balances uncovered absolutely nothing untoward and never has in the NRL. If you put an 'inside man' at every single club I bet they find every single club is in some way breaching the rules.
100%. We've seen far too many cases of cap rorting go undetected via the regular processes. A sure sign the system is faulty. Real problem is there's no moves to rectify it. They are content to sit and wait for whistleblowers.
NRL being the tribal competition that it is, clubs and fans are content to sit back and watch the dominoes fall, while taking great pleasure in the suffering of other teams and their fans. It's simply not sustainable and needs to change.

Struggling clubs cannot compete with the top sides and the only way for them to be at the least competitive, let alone successful, is to cheat. The NRL sits back and let's some clubs access a million dollars worth of TPAs more than other sides. It continues with enabling an uneven competition through FTA coverage.

Every fan of any club should be able to start a new season thinking their side is a chance to win the competition and that simply has not been the case for too long.

The NRL looks to be getting fair dinkum on player behaviour, though the club compensation throws a little doubt there. The next thing they need to fix is the salary cap and the refereeing. They fix these areas, or at least make an effort, they may see some appreciation from the public/fans.

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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by Sid » February 27, 2019, 9:22 am

-PJ- wrote:
February 27, 2019, 8:41 am
Eventually..

That 2016 premiership will be stripped as well..

You can't tell me that's clean considering seasons either side of 2016 are dirty !!

Mick Ennis will be devo.
If there was yet another * against a premiership winner, it'd make * the equal biggest premiership winner in the NRL era along with roosters and storm.
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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by Northern Raider » February 27, 2019, 9:32 am

Sid wrote:
February 27, 2019, 9:22 am
-PJ- wrote:
February 27, 2019, 8:41 am
Eventually..

That 2016 premiership will be stripped as well..

You can't tell me that's clean considering seasons either side of 2016 are dirty !!

Mick Ennis will be devo.
If there was yet another * against a premiership winner, it'd make * the equal biggest premiership winner in the NRL era along with roosters and storm.
I might start supporting * instead of the Raiders.
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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by El_Capitano » February 28, 2019, 8:28 pm

Nothing suss here...

Sharks say Gallen's business dealings have no impact on NRL's salary cap investigations

Cronulla Sharks skipper Paul Gallen invested in a property with a director of a company that became a major team sponsor months later, but club officials are confident his dealings will escape censure by an NRL investigation into salary cap breaches.

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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by Northern Raider » March 1, 2019, 9:18 am

El_Capitano wrote:
February 28, 2019, 8:28 pm
Nothing suss here...

Sharks say Gallen's business dealings have no impact on NRL's salary cap investigations

Cronulla Sharks skipper Paul Gallen invested in a property with a director of a company that became a major team sponsor months later, but club officials are confident his dealings will escape censure by an NRL investigation into salary cap breaches.

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Would be pretty hard to pin that kind of thing on the salary cap. Its a property investment. DHA were always parading Raiders players as investors.
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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by greeneyed » March 1, 2019, 11:24 am

Todd Greenberg press conference on Sharks salary cap cheating: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/01/nrl ... onference/
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Post by greeneyed » March 1, 2019, 11:34 am

NRL CEO Todd Greenberg hands out hefty sanctions to Cronulla Sharks over integrity issues

Cronulla will have to shed a player before their opening Telstra Premiership match in two weeks and may need to release another member of their squad by June 30.

The Sharks have been fined $750,000 but $500,000 has been suspended, while the Sharks have had their salary cap reduced by $353,000 in each of the next two seasons – a decision which means the club needs to release a player immediately to be cap compliant before round one.

Coach Shane Flanagan has had his indefinite deregistration confirmed, while the NRL's fine on the Sharks for dealing with Flanagan during his drug cheating suspension has been reduced from $800,000 to $500,000.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/01/nrl ... ty-issues/

Cronulla Sharks club statement

The Sharks accept the Integrity Unit findings as announced by the NRL today and are pleased that we now can move forward with the salary cap matters closed.

Sharks CEO Barry Russell in accepting the penalties, expressed his pride in the systems now in place and in the processes that led to us to self-reporting a potential breach of the NRL rules.

“We now have best governance practices, have learned some hard lessons during this process and I’m confident the systems we have in place will ensure this doesn’t happen again,” Russell said.

“By applying discounts to the fines imposed, a reduction of $300,000 on appeal to our original 2014 fine of $800,000 and $500,000 of the $750,000 suspended on the salary cap breach, we acknowledge the NRL for recognising our self-reporting and our continued cooperative approach with their subsequent investigations.

“We have no plans to appeal, will deal with the consequences of the fines and punishments and take the positive in that we can now move ahead into the new season and into the future with these matters behind us,” Russell added.

In relation to the 2019-2020 Salary Cap sanction, management and coaching staff, with guidance from our salary cap and recruitment managers, will come together to ensure we are fully compliant as stipulated by the NRL before our round one game on March 15.

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Post by LimeGreenMachine » March 1, 2019, 11:39 am

Sharks in a bit of hurt and good.

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Re: Cronulla Sharks 2019

Post by greeneyed » March 1, 2019, 12:26 pm

They got off pretty lightly really.
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Post by LimeGreenMachine » March 1, 2019, 1:12 pm

Agree and I also don't believe they were squeaky clean in 2016. That as a smell to it.

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Post by Northern Raider » March 1, 2019, 1:15 pm

Sharks officially accepting the sanctions and announcing no intention of appeal. Little doubt the penalties were pre-negotiated before they were revealed publicly.

They appear to have gotten of very lightly in comparison to the Tigers. Hence the NRL delivering clemency to the Tigers at the same time.

Are there any details of the actual transgressions by the Sharks? I can't recall seeing that detail anywhere.
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Post by greeneyed » March 1, 2019, 1:43 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
March 1, 2019, 1:15 pm
Sharks officially accepting the sanctions and announcing no intention of appeal. Little doubt the penalties were pre-negotiated before they were revealed publicly.

They appear to have gotten of very lightly in comparison to the Tigers. Hence the NRL delivering clemency to the Tigers at the same time.

Are there any details of the actual transgressions by the Sharks? I can't recall seeing that detail anywhere.
This is all we’ve been told:

NRL investigators found that an unnamed former Cronulla director set up a company to provide players with Third Party Agreements outside the salary cap.
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Post by Northern Raider » March 1, 2019, 2:17 pm

greeneyed wrote:
March 1, 2019, 1:43 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
March 1, 2019, 1:15 pm
Sharks officially accepting the sanctions and announcing no intention of appeal. Little doubt the penalties were pre-negotiated before they were revealed publicly.

They appear to have gotten of very lightly in comparison to the Tigers. Hence the NRL delivering clemency to the Tigers at the same time.

Are there any details of the actual transgressions by the Sharks? I can't recall seeing that detail anywhere.
This is all we’ve been told:

NRL investigators found that an unnamed former Cronulla director set up a company to provide players with Third Party Agreements outside the salary cap.
Basically got caught exploiting the massive loophole that is TPAs.
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Post by Coastalraider » March 1, 2019, 3:34 pm

So the sharks, who have been struggling financially for a number of years, have a $750,000 fine to pay.

After letting staff go to meet this years operating budget, they get hit with this, which you would expect to cover somewhere around 8 support staff wages.

Couple this with having to let a decent player go, and operating on a reduced cap for 2 years, this could be the start of a very dark period for that club.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

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Post by greeneyed » March 2, 2019, 2:06 am

The salary cap deals which brought the Sharks and Wests Tigers undone

A former Cronulla director allegedly paid money into a company established to provide third-party agreements for Sharks players in 2017 as the club attempted to stave off rival offers for members of the previous season's premiership-winning team.

However, NRL officials insist Cronulla's historic 2016 grand final triumph is not tainted as the breaches before 2017 were TPAs for small amounts and the Sharks had been under the salary cap but did not disclose the deals.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/03/01/the ... rs-undone/

So there were in fact non disclosed TPAs in 2016...
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Post by greeneyed » March 2, 2019, 2:15 am

Rival clubs circle as Cronulla Sharks brace for roster cut

Rival clubs circling the Sharks' roster will play a large part in dictating who gets released by the club as Cronulla scramble to move on at least one player and be salary cap compliant for round one.

While the Sharks are reluctant to release title-winning half Townsend, who is contracted for both 2019 and 2020, both the Warriors and Eels have cap space to accommodate him and are in need of a top-level playmaker.

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Post by greeneyed » March 5, 2019, 12:22 pm

Cronulla Sharks boss Barry Russell quits amid salary cap scandal

Cronulla boss Barry Russell has quit his post following the latest NRL salary cap scandal to engulf the club. Following weeks of speculation surrounding his role at the Sharks, Russell announced his resignation in a letter to members on Tuesday.

“It is with great sadness that I inform Cronulla Sharks members, fans and corporate partners that I have made the decision to resign from my role as Cronulla Sharks Group CEO.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... a82df7831e

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Post by El_Capitano » March 5, 2019, 1:18 pm

When do they have to cut someone by?


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Post by greeneyed » March 5, 2019, 1:58 pm

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When do they have to cut someone by?


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Post by Coastalraider » March 5, 2019, 2:42 pm

greeneyed wrote:
March 5, 2019, 12:22 pm
Cronulla Sharks boss Barry Russell quits amid salary cap scandal

Cronulla boss Barry Russell has quit his post following the latest NRL salary cap scandal to engulf the club. Following weeks of speculation surrounding his role at the Sharks, Russell announced his resignation in a letter to members on Tuesday.

“It is with great sadness that I inform Cronulla Sharks members, fans and corporate partners that I have made the decision to resign from my role as Cronulla Sharks Group CEO.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... a82df7831e

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/cronu ... 6d915e0379
The Moral to this story is - there is no place for morals at the Sharks.

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Post by Brewdle » March 7, 2019, 7:28 am

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