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edwahu wrote: ↑March 25, 2019, 9:04 pm It's fair to say the 2019-2021 figures would've increased.

It just shows how easy it is to cheat the cap really. Just don't go sending anything to your work email.

Yeah that was my read as well.

If this email was from a few years ago, a lot of the contracts would have been re-negotiated and new deals signed, and new players recruited.

If those were the figures were from an email in 2014 (I havent looked in detail) then if they are planning on being over the cap in 2021 (7 years in advance) it really looks bad.

I really feel sorry for the Cronulla fans - this club has treated football with an unusual amount of contempt in nearly every facet. Peptides, banned coaches, salary cap cheating, player attitudes and questionable characters etc, it must be very hard to see your club exposed as grubs like this repeatedly and still follow them.

I know i sound like a broken record here and it is extremely difficult for some people to accept but the only thing they have failed at is covering it up like other clubs successfully do.

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Flanagan claiming (via Rothfield) that he had no involvement in the cap Rory's as that was handle by management. His claim fails to address why the doc was in his personal email and forwarded to his Sharks email account.

Once again Flanagan shows to be a person of the lowest integrity.

The other disturbing thing I heard tonight on NRL 360 was that payments in 2016 were made "after" the Grand Final. So now we know the reason why the NRL is using the term "under the salary cap on the day of the Grand Final". The NRL appears to be very non-transparent about what happened at Cronulla... and for some reason, NRL documents which show how non-transparent they are being are "falling off the back of a truck". The document at the base of Rothfield's story on the weekend was an "NRL briefing paper"... and he was also given the speadsheet at the heart of it...

Reading between the lines you have to assume that Cronulla were over the cap and have been permitted to creatively account the overs into future and prior years to avoid stripping them of their maiden premiership.

gangrenous wrote: ↑March 26, 2019, 8:24 pm Reading between the lines you have to assume that Cronulla were over the cap and have been permitted to creatively account the overs into future and prior years to avoid stripping them of their maiden premiership.

Or... they were not over by much in 2016. But the NRL has never been transparent in telling us, precisely, how far over they were in each year. They pretend that they can spin their way out of anything. They can't. They need to take decisions on the basis that everything will come out.

They've done the same thing on TPAs. They're pretending they're not a problem, when the difference between the Storm and the team with the lowest TPAs is $1 million!

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gergreg wrote: ↑March 25, 2019, 8:56 am

the bone wrote:

greeneyed wrote:

gergreg wrote: ↑March 25, 2019, 7:23 am It's a DT article so it's either behind a paywall or propaganda. How much did they cheat the cap by?

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The reports originally suggested $700,000. But it turns out it was around $1 million. The $700k figure was for the following four years:

2018 $340,000
2019 $240,000
2020 $25,000
2021 $25,000

Between 2013 and 2016 there was another $280,000 for Luke Lewis and Jack Bird according to the report.

They originally self reported $75,000.

Cheating is cheating, but based on this, sounds like it doesn’t come close to the Storm’s rort


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Not even remotely close to the Storm.

How many years was the 1 million over GE?

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The figures are given year by year above... 2013 to 2021.

The Storm cheating totalled $3.78 million: $303,000 in 2006, $459,000 in 2007, $957,000 in 2008, $1.021 million in 2009 and $1.04 million in 2010.

I don't see the actual breakdown over the years 2013 to 2016. Was it 280k over each of those years or was 280k the total breach for the 4 years?

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gergreg wrote: ↑March 26, 2019, 8:34 pm

greeneyed wrote:

gergreg wrote: ↑March 25, 2019, 8:56 am

the bone wrote:

greeneyed wrote:
The reports originally suggested $700,000. But it turns out it was around $1 million. The $700k figure was for the following four years:

2018 $340,000
2019 $240,000
2020 $25,000
2021 $25,000

Between 2013 and 2016 there was another $280,000 for Luke Lewis and Jack Bird according to the report.

They originally self reported $75,000.

Cheating is cheating, but based on this, sounds like it doesn’t come close to the Storm’s rort


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Not even remotely close to the Storm.

How many years was the 1 million over GE?

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The figures are given year by year above... 2013 to 2021.

The Storm cheating totalled $3.78 million: $303,000 in 2006, $459,000 in 2007, $957,000 in 2008, $1.021 million in 2009 and $1.04 million in 2010.

I don't see the actual breakdown over the years 2013 to 2016. Was it 280k over each of those years or was 280k the total breach for the 4 years?

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It has to be the latter, so the numbers add up.

The question is... why hasn't the NRL revealed this?

Right now I'd struggle to believe any of the official line coming from the NRL.

Northern Raider wrote: ↑March 26, 2019, 7:57 pm Flanagan claiming (via Rothfield) that he had no involvement in the cap Rory's as that was handle by management. His claim fails to address why the doc was in his personal email and forwarded to his Sharks email account.

Once again Flanagan shows to be a person of the lowest integrity.

Plus according to Rothfield, the spreadsheet has notes like "paid agent 30K in cash". He had to know this was outside the cap, and to deny knowledge is ludicrous.

TongueFTW wrote:

Northern Raider wrote: ↑March 26, 2019, 7:57 pm Flanagan claiming (via Rothfield) that he had no involvement in the cap Rory's as that was handle by management. His claim fails to address why the doc was in his personal email and forwarded to his Sharks email account.

Once again Flanagan shows to be a person of the lowest integrity.

Plus according to Rothfield, the spreadsheet has notes like "paid agent 30K in cash". He had to know this was outside the cap, and to deny knowledge is ludicrous.

Worked for the Storm and Bellamy.

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gergreg wrote: ↑March 27, 2019, 7:18 am

TongueFTW wrote:

Northern Raider wrote: ↑March 26, 2019, 7:57 pm Flanagan claiming (via Rothfield) that he had no involvement in the cap Rory's as that was handle by management. His claim fails to address why the doc was in his personal email and forwarded to his Sharks email account.

Once again Flanagan shows to be a person of the lowest integrity.

Plus according to Rothfield, the spreadsheet has notes like "paid agent 30K in cash". He had to know this was outside the cap, and to deny knowledge is ludicrous.

Worked for the Storm and Bellamy.

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It will continue until sanctions are introduced against players and coaches for cap breaches. Only then will they demonstrate more accountability for their income sources.

In a way you have to pity the Sharks. Peptides, salary cap cheating, coaches evading bans and who knows what else. And now they get drug cheat Paul Gallen as their longest serving player. But then you remember the club has brought it all on themselves.


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greeneyed wrote:In a way you have to pity the Sharks. Peptides, salary cap cheating, coaches evading bans and who knows what else. And now they get drug cheat Paul Gallen as their longest serving player. But then you remember the club has brought it all on themselves.


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Pity them? They got the premiership we wanted...

greeneyed wrote:In a way you have to pity the Sharks. Peptides, salary cap cheating, coaches evading bans and who knows what else. And now they get drug cheat Paul Gallen as their longest serving player. But then you remember the club has brought it all on themselves.


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Replace Paul Gallen with Cameron Smith and Sharks with Storm and the paragraph is actually true as well. Crazy stuff huh?

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gangrenous wrote: ↑March 28, 2019, 5:37 pm

greeneyed wrote:In a way you have to pity the Sharks. Peptides, salary cap cheating, coaches evading bans and who knows what else. And now they get drug cheat Paul Gallen as their longest serving player. But then you remember the club has brought it all on themselves.


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Pity them? They got the premiership we wanted...

Yep. And they're still good now, they'll push for top 4 despite their pathetic slap on the wrists punishments

gergreg wrote:

greeneyed wrote:In a way you have to pity the Sharks. Peptides, salary cap cheating, coaches evading bans and who knows what else. And now they get drug cheat Paul Gallen as their longest serving player. But then you remember the club has brought it all on themselves.


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Replace Paul Gallen with Cameron Smith and Sharks with Storm and the paragraph is actually true as well. Crazy stuff huh?

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I’m starting to think you’re actually a Sharks fan Gerg! You defend drug cheat Paul Gallen at every turn!


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VIDEO: Bronson Xerri to become Shark 529

A hidden camera caught the moment coach John Morris told Bronson Xerri he will become Shark 529 and make his NRL debut this Saturday night. See his reaction and his phone call with his Mum.

Video: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/04/02/the ... his-debut/

This is well worth watching.

Great footage.

My weird take away...

why does my desk and set up at work look like its more professionally set up than a HC of a national sporting team?
He looks like he's in a store room!

PigRickman wrote:My weird take away...

why does my desk and set up at work look like its more professionally set up than a HC of a national sporting team?
He looks like he's in a store room!

Perhaps they are saving Flanagan’s office for his return, kinda like when big brother leaves for college in all those US TV shows... Or they put a lick of paint on the peptides storage room hoping for some residual effects


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Cronulla Sharks announce new CEO

The Sharks today announced the appointment of senior business executive Richard Munro as the club’s new Group CEO. He will be responsible for the operations of both the Football Club and the Leagues Club.

Munro is currently CEO of the Accommodation Association of Australia which represents the leading hotel chains around the country.

Read more: https://www.sharks.com.au/news/2019/04/ ... group-ceo/

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/04/09/sha ... e-new-ceo/

Cronulla Sharks snap up young gun Blayke Brailey on new deal to end 2022

Cronulla have secured in-demand hooker Blayke Brailey with a three-year extension, securing another local junior. The younger Brailey brother re-signed until the end of 2022 knocking back offers from the Dogs and Tigers.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/04/19/sha ... -new-deal/

He really would have been better off signing somewhere else, but if the options are the Dogs and Tigers...

Going to be awkward when little brother ends up sending big brother packing.

Yeah, it was bought up in an interview between the two, they realised one would have to move to another club to make way for the other

I guess Segeyaro is focusing on his blossoming Barista career.

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Just thought Id drop this here - I am constantly baffled by how Cronulla have zero respect for NRL rules and regulations.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... chPY7rde0Q

Cronulla Sharks Andrew Fifita guilty of a crusher on Canberra Raiders forward Ryan Sutton, suspended for three games

Andrew Fifita has been unsuccessful in his bid to have his dangerous contact charge for a crusher tackle on Canberra Raiders forward Ryan Sutton downgraded and has received a three-match ban, ruling him out of Saturday's Test between Tonga and New Zealand.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/14/rou ... miss-test/

greeneyed wrote:Cronulla Sharks Andrew Fifita guilty of a crusher on Canberra Raiders forward Ryan Sutton, suspended for three games

Andrew Fifita has been unsuccessful in his bid to have his dangerous contact charge for a crusher tackle on Canberra Raiders forward Ryan Sutton downgraded and has received a three-match ban, ruling him out of Saturday's Test between Tonga and New Zealand.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/06/14/rou ... miss-test/

Of course! Imagine my surprise!!

He's a filthy player and a very good result.

I agree!!

Briton Nikora re-signs with Cronulla Sharks until end of 2022

Cronulla have received a massive boost leading into Sunday's stoush with Brisbane by re-signing rising star Briton Nikora. He was contracted until the end of 2020 but has extended his deal for another two seasons.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/07/05/nik ... d-of-2022/

Nikora an outstanding talent. Needs to learn how to get more involved in attack. Tends to wait for it to come to him out on the edge. Has to go looking for the ball every so often.

Cronulla Sharks moving to Kogarah for 2020 home games

Cronulla has chosen Jubilee Stadium for 11 of its home games next season. Henson Park was looked at, as was Darwin, Wollongong, Western Sydney Stadium. The 12th home game will be at Sunshine Coast Stadium.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/09/18/sha ... ome-games/