2018 Second Test England V New Zealand: Teams and Game Day

[The Greenhouse]

60th min England's Tom Burgess goes over! The referee says it is no try on field, lost ball. It is never grounded. NO TRY.

[The Greenhouse]

61st min George Burgess... fingers in the eye of Watene Zelezniak and it does not look good on replay. No penalty.

[Sezer's Palace]

Jeez Rapana has had a tough afternoon.

Whitehead has been class again.

[The Greenhouse]

63rd min Jordan Rapana loses the ball near half way, early in the tackle count. Gives England a chance in the Kiwis half.

[The Greenhouse]

64th min TRY ENGLAND to Jake Connor in the corner. Great play from Whitehead in the lead up, good pass and a try assist for Elliott. It is off the back of the Rapana error. Jake Connor can't convert from the sideline, the ball hits the post.

England 14
New Zealand 14

[The Greenhouse]

69th min Whitehead is having a great game... England nearly go over the final pass is astray. Jordan Rapana looks like he's in trouble again with that shoulder. He's on the ground again. Rapana's tackle saves the try. He's in a lot of pain and he goes off, clutching his right forearm.

[luffraider]

Rapana off injured

Looked in a lot of pain

[The Greenhouse]

72nd min It is still 14-14 and this looks like a scenario for Shaun Johnson to cause England some pain with a field goal.

[The Greenhouse]

John Bateman one of the options for man of the match, along with Tommy Makinson, Jake Connor and Luke Thompson. Hodgson and Whitehead robbed in that final four. Makinson will no doubt be the man of the match, however.

[The Greenhouse]

74th min TRY ENGLAND! It is sensational! But it could be a dropped ball right as he grounds it! It looks like it is dropped. This would not a be a try in Australia. But the English video referee has ruled it a try, saying he kept fingers on the ball. Sensational run from Makinson, but there's no doubt he lost control. In any event, try awarded. Tomkins converts.

England 20
New Zealand 14

[The Greenhouse]

77th min Kiwis attack in the red zone, big break from Marsters, but the ball is thrown over the sideline on the last by New Zealand.

[The Greenhouse]

26,234 is the crowd at Liverpool.

[The Greenhouse]

Tommy Makinson is man of the match. Three great tries and some great try saving tackles from the winger.

[The Greenhouse]

80th min Whitehead strips the ball, one on one! That seals it!

England 20
New Zealand 14

FULL TIME

MATCH REPORT: Tommy Makinson hat-trick carries England to series win over New Zealand

Tommy Makinson’s outstanding hat-trick ensured a series victory for England over New Zealand with a game to spare in a thrilling Test match at Anfield.

Arguably the finest series that international rugby has seen for years between two of the world’s best sides deserved to be settled in a decider next weekend at Elland Road, and for large periods here it looked as though the Kiwis would do enough to level the series.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... tch-report

Tommy Makinson treble delivers comeback England series win: https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... -1-9427798

'Magical' Makinson hat-trick try seals England series win: https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/46090584

England take series with 20-14 win over New Zealand: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/england-ta ... 2c5f0a5ec7

Makinson hat-trick seals England series win over Kiwis: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/05/tom ... and-kiwis/

[The Greenhouse]

So that's all we have for tonight! Thanks for following!

[BadnMean]

Tommy Makinson is man of the match. Three great tries and some great try saving tackles from the winger.

He got belted plenty of times too and kept coming back for more and producing quality in reply, unshaken. Tough kid.

Luke Thompson looked a very, very good player. Better than Bateman from what I saw, bigger too.

Hodgo and Whitehead usual good games.

Rapana looks to have stuffed his shoulder badly. Generally a bad sign when it pops and they stay out there with an unstable joint and then it when it goes again in a second incident it's buggered. Similar to Hingano's in that way. Or Toots and his knee last year.

[luffraider]

Another outstanding game from the both Hodgson and Whitehead. Both stand out players

After that performance, Whitehead has to be a lock for golden boot

[greeneyed]

For Canberra Raiders fans... we have three of the best wins of the 2015 season coming up on Fox League! The Round 7 comeback against the Wests Tigers at Leichhardt first up.

[edwahu]

Another outstanding game from the both Hodgson and Whitehead. Both stand out players

After that performance, Whitehead has to be a lock for golden boot

He should win it but none of the Australian media will vote for him.

Winning this series is a great lead in for next year for us. I hope the Poms really take the lead for the team next year.

Hopefully Rapana isn't too bad, our luck in internationals is awful.

[-PJ-]

Rapana off injured

Looked in a lot of pain

He'll be ok.

He's unbreakable, even a fractured skull can't slow him up.

[gangrenous]

Rapana looks to have stuffed his shoulder badly. Generally a bad sign when it pops and they stay out there with an unstable joint and then it when it goes again in a second incident it's buggered. Similar to Hingano's in that way. Or Toots and his knee last year.

What are trainers doing leaving busted players out there to double down on their injuries?

Shoulders and knees aren’t corks. Get them off the field

[greeneyed]

England wins a Test series against New Zealand



Tommy Makinson scored a hat-trick of tries as England beat New Zealand 20-14 at Anfield to take an unassailable 2-0 lead in the three-Test series.

The St Helens winger completed his treble with seven minutes remaining to ensure Wayne Bennett's side headed to Elland Road next week with the series already wrapped up.

Read more: http://www.rugby-league.com/article/539 ... ew-zealand

Match highlights: http://www.rugby-league.com/article/539 ... z--anfield

[greeneyed]

Concerns for Canberra Raiders winger Jordan Rapana's shoulder in Kiwis loss

Canberra winger Jordan Rapana left Anfield in a sling with scans set to follow after suffering a shoulder injury in New Zealand's 20-14 loss to England on Sunday.

Rapana suffered discomfort in an attempted try-scoring effort midway through the first half and played on until succumbing to the injury late in the loss.

Kiwis coach Michael Maguire was unsure of the extent of the injury post-game but admitted England targeted the right edge as a result.

Read more: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/05/con ... iwis-loss/

Michael Maguire says Kiwis 'hurting' after England defeat: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/20 ... efeat.html

George Burgess caught in eye gouge incident on Dallin Watene-Zelezniak in England Test against New Zealand: https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/george-bur ... 5424b7a855

Match highlights: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/05/mat ... cond-test/

Hat-trick hero Makinson man of the match: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/05/hat ... the-match/

DWZ: We weren't good enough: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/05/dwz ... od-enough/

Bennett eyes next England opponents after series win: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/05/way ... eries-win/

DWZ plays down Burgess incident: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/05/dwz ... -incident/

DWZ brushes off alleged eye gouge incident with Burgess: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/11/05/dwz ... h-burgess/

[Sid]

NRL Physio’s take on the injury



Video: https://mobile.twitter.com/nrlphysio/st ... 7770038272

[greeneyed]

Noticing a bit of comment on Twitter and Facebook that our players shouldn’t be playing in these matches and risking injury so far after the season. I’m of course very concerned we might be without Rapana for an extended period. I do wonder why he was left on the field by the New Zealand medical staff. But to say players shouldn’t be playing these matches is a very narrow minded and parochial view IMO.

The NRL clubs didn’t want international games disrupting the NRL season... so they established the window of one weekend during the season, alongside a stand alone Origin match... and post season. Even then the NRL clubs blew up about the Denver Test this year.

The NRL is not the be all and end all of rugby league. These are Test matches. It’s the highest honour in any sport to play for your country. We’re contracting English and New Zealand players... we haven’t developed any of our English and New Zealand reps. We can’t expect to deny these players the chance to represent their country, and it’s entirely reasonable their countries can call on them. Rugby league is a contact sport... and injuries can just as easily happen on the training park as on the field of play. And if we don’t support the international game, we’re consigning the code to a long slow death. What we have at the moment - with the emergence of a number of second tier teams - is an opportunity to grow the game internationally. We have to support it.

[boydy80]

I do wonder why he was left on the field by the New Zealand medical staff.

Because National squads don't really have to worry about "next week". Madge was quite happy to put success in front of player welfare, and I'd further venture that Wayne was guilty of the same last year. International coaches seem to treat their players like hire scooters in Seminyak.

[greeneyed]

BTW I’m not so sure the second injury wasn’t to the forearm, rather than the shoulder, the way he was holding it. But I’m no medical expert.

[edwahu]

Noticing a bit of comment on Twitter and Facebook that our players shouldn’t be playing in these matches and risking injury so far after the season. I’m of course very concerned we might be without Rapana for an extended period. I do wonder why he was left on the field by the New Zealand medical staff. But to say players shouldn’t be playing these matches is a very narrow minded and parochial view IMO.

The NRL clubs didn’t want international games disrupting the NRL season... so they established the window of one weekend during the season, alongside a stand alone Origin match... and post season. Even then the NRL clubs blew up about the Denver Test this year.

The NRL is not the be all and end all of rugby league. These are Test matches. It’s the highest honour in any sport to play for your country. We’re contracting English and New Zealand players... we haven’t developed any of our English and New Zealand reps. We can’t expect to deny these players the chance to represent their country, and it’s entirely reasonable their countries can call on them. Rugby league is a contact sport... and injuries can just as easily happen on the training park as on the field of play. And if we don’t support the international game, we’re consigning the code to a long slow death. What we have at the moment - with the emergence of a number of second tier teams - is an opportunity to grow the game internationally. We have to support it.

I agree to an extent. However the international workload is increasing a huge amount and the International teams need to be mindful of who pays the players salaries. Leaving injured players on the park or having them come back from camps like Samoa at the world cup doesn't help.

At least we can sign a replacement, if he is out for the year 350k will buy a handy winger. Maybe we could even get a loan of this Makinson bloke?

[BadnMean]

BTW I’m not so sure the second injury wasn’t to the forearm, rather than the shoulder, the way he was holding it. But I’m no medical expert.

You could clearly see them trying to adjust/move it to pop it back in and him in a world of hurt when it wouldn't go.
He walked off holding the forearm just to support the arms weight instead of it pulling out of his shoulder even more, since it was still hanging out of the joint.

[BadnMean]

Noticing a bit of comment on Twitter and Facebook that our players shouldn’t be playing in these matches and risking injury so far after the season. I’m of course very concerned we might be without Rapana for an extended period. I do wonder why he was left on the field by the New Zealand medical staff. But to say players shouldn’t be playing these matches is a very narrow minded and parochial view IMO.

The NRL clubs didn’t want international games disrupting the NRL season... so they established the window of one weekend during the season, alongside a stand alone Origin match... and post season. Even then the NRL clubs blew up about the Denver Test this year.

The NRL is not the be all and end all of rugby league. These are Test matches. It’s the highest honour in any sport to play for your country. We’re contracting English and New Zealand players... we haven’t developed any of our English and New Zealand reps. We can’t expect to deny these players the chance to represent their country, and it’s entirely reasonable their countries can call on them. Rugby league is a contact sport... and injuries can just as easily happen on the training park as on the field of play. And if we don’t support the international game, we’re consigning the code to a long slow death. What we have at the moment - with the emergence of a number of second tier teams - is an opportunity to grow the game internationally. We have to support it.

I agree to an extent. However the international workload is increasing a huge amount and the International teams need to be mindful of who pays the players salaries. Leaving injured players on the park or having them come back from camps like Samoa at the world cup doesn't help.

At least we can sign a replacement, if he is out for the year 350k will buy a handy winger. Maybe we could even get a loan of this Makinson bloke?

Both English wingers look like they'd be worth a go in NRL. Mackinson had some zip and attitude, McGilvary is a big unit who makes good yards out his own end.

Disappointed in the injury but these are big games. It's the same as any Origin player would do in trying to stay out there.

[greeneyed]

Noticing a bit of comment on Twitter and Facebook that our players shouldn’t be playing in these matches and risking injury so far after the season. I’m of course very concerned we might be without Rapana for an extended period. I do wonder why he was left on the field by the New Zealand medical staff. But to say players shouldn’t be playing these matches is a very narrow minded and parochial view IMO.

The NRL clubs didn’t want international games disrupting the NRL season... so they established the window of one weekend during the season, alongside a stand alone Origin match... and post season. Even then the NRL clubs blew up about the Denver Test this year.

The NRL is not the be all and end all of rugby league. These are Test matches. It’s the highest honour in any sport to play for your country. We’re contracting English and New Zealand players... we haven’t developed any of our English and New Zealand reps. We can’t expect to deny these players the chance to represent their country, and it’s entirely reasonable their countries can call on them. Rugby league is a contact sport... and injuries can just as easily happen on the training park as on the field of play. And if we don’t support the international game, we’re consigning the code to a long slow death. What we have at the moment - with the emergence of a number of second tier teams - is an opportunity to grow the game internationally. We have to support it.

I agree to an extent. However the international workload is increasing a huge amount and the International teams need to be mindful of who pays the players salaries. Leaving injured players on the park or having them come back from camps like Samoa at the world cup doesn't help.

At least we can sign a replacement, if he is out for the year 350k will buy a handy winger. Maybe we could even get a loan of this Makinson bloke?

I’m not sure it’s increasing... is it? The Kangaroos have played just two Tests this year. World Cups are still only played every four years. There’s generally one Test series for other countries in other years. England has had five Tests and New Zealand six this year. But their players don’t play Origin. I don’t think it’s too much.

[roneel78]

Anyone know why Tapine didnt play? Injured? Surely the likes of proctor, kenny bromwich, isaac liu are behind him in the pecking order


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[greeneyed]

Anyone know why Tapine didnt play? Injured? Surely the likes of proctor, kenny bromwich, isaac liu are behind him in the pecking order


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It appears not.

[edwahu]

Noticing a bit of comment on Twitter and Facebook that our players shouldn’t be playing in these matches and risking injury so far after the season. I’m of course very concerned we might be without Rapana for an extended period. I do wonder why he was left on the field by the New Zealand medical staff. But to say players shouldn’t be playing these matches is a very narrow minded and parochial view IMO.

The NRL clubs didn’t want international games disrupting the NRL season... so they established the window of one weekend during the season, alongside a stand alone Origin match... and post season. Even then the NRL clubs blew up about the Denver Test this year.

The NRL is not the be all and end all of rugby league. These are Test matches. It’s the highest honour in any sport to play for your country. We’re contracting English and New Zealand players... we haven’t developed any of our English and New Zealand reps. We can’t expect to deny these players the chance to represent their country, and it’s entirely reasonable their countries can call on them. Rugby league is a contact sport... and injuries can just as easily happen on the training park as on the field of play. And if we don’t support the international game, we’re consigning the code to a long slow death. What we have at the moment - with the emergence of a number of second tier teams - is an opportunity to grow the game internationally. We have to support it.

I agree to an extent. However the international workload is increasing a huge amount and the International teams need to be mindful of who pays the players salaries. Leaving injured players on the park or having them come back from camps like Samoa at the world cup doesn't help.

At least we can sign a replacement, if he is out for the year 350k will buy a handy winger. Maybe we could even get a loan of this Makinson bloke?

I’m not sure it’s increasing... is it? The Kangaroos have played just two Tests this year. World Cups are still only played every four years. There’s generally one Test series for other countries in other years. England has had five Tests and New Zealand six this year. But their players don’t play Origin. I don’t think it’s too much.

I'd say it's increased with the more NRL players playing for the 2nd tier nations now and more games involving them. You have fixtures like the pacific test which didn't exist previously. The intensity of the games also increases because those sides are a lot stronger.

I mean I think it's a good thing, and I don't want our players to not get picked, but leaving players on is irresponsible and will end with clubs pulling players from fixtures.

[Roger Kenworthy]

If the international game is the pinnacle then surely games between top tier nations should have neutral officials.