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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by Sid » December 18, 2018, 9:25 pm

Wests Tigers mistake was not declaring a deal to the NRL - because they didn’t know they had to

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Post by greeneyed » December 18, 2018, 9:43 pm

I mean I know you have to declare such deals... and I’m not running a football club.
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Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » December 19, 2018, 6:12 am

Yeah, you would think it’s someone’s job in the TigPies to ensure they are compliant to issues like this.


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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by gergreg » December 19, 2018, 7:13 am

GE does it actually go onto a teams cap, because every single club in the competition does it. We did it many years ago with Glen Turner and there really is no other explanation for the Brett White coaching gig other than enticing him to retire.

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by greeneyed » December 19, 2018, 9:22 am

gergreg wrote:GE does it actually go onto a teams cap, because every single club in the competition does it. We did it many years ago with Glen Turner and there really is no other explanation for the Brett White coaching gig other than enticing him to retire.

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

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gergreg wrote:GE does it actually go onto a teams cap, because every single club in the competition does it. We did it many years ago with Glen Turner and there really is no other explanation for the Brett White coaching gig other than enticing him to retire.

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Just another grey area for clubs to exploit. How is this deal any different to Lockyer? It's difficult to prove but I'd guess he is still on the Broncos payroll. Then you have your former players who transition into the water boy or trainer role. Tigers I guess were just dumb for formalising the role.

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Post by T_R » December 19, 2018, 11:22 am

Well, apparently the Tigers have lost their CEO, but more importantly just taken a $639,000 hit to their salary cap for 2019.
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by greeneyed » December 19, 2018, 11:35 am

gergreg wrote:
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gergreg wrote:GE does it actually go onto a teams cap, because every single club in the competition does it. We did it many years ago with Glen Turner and there really is no other explanation for the Brett White coaching gig other than enticing him to retire.

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Just another grey area for clubs to exploit. How is this deal any different to Lockyer? It's difficult to prove but I'd guess he is still on the Broncos payroll. Then you have your former players who transition into the water boy or trainer role. Tigers I guess were just dumb for formalising the role.

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I presume other clubs are not silly enough to put a deal in writing, and then deliberately mislead the NRL by not disclosing it.
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by greeneyed » December 19, 2018, 11:36 am

T_R wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:22 am
Well, apparently the Tigers have lost their CEO, but more importantly just taken a $639,000 hit to their salary cap for 2019.
About time the NRL got tough on the cap...

Oh, that's right... they have a $1 million loop hole in the cap for the Storm and Broncos...
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by dubby » December 19, 2018, 11:47 am

T_R wrote:Well, apparently the Tigers have lost their CEO, but more importantly just taken a $639,000 hit to their salary cap for 2019.
Plus a $750k fine.

That's got to hurt, the tigers are not a financially strong club.

The long term future of the tigers is looking a bit shaky.

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by -PJ- » December 19, 2018, 11:50 am

Weren't the Tigs one of the bottom feeders on that recently released TPA graph as well ?

This has to sting.

They may need to release Chris Lawerence.
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by Sid » December 19, 2018, 11:53 am

It's funny on so many levels when a team with one of the worst 3 rosters in the ERL are stung with a salary cap breach
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Post by -PJ- » December 19, 2018, 11:55 am

Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:53 am
It's funny on so many levels when a team with one of the worst 3 rosters in the ERL are stung with a salary cap breach
And yet a club in Queensland carries on with the business of rorting at will !!!
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Post by yeh raiders » December 19, 2018, 12:19 pm

NRL is worst run professional sport on the planet. Fact.

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Post by Sid » December 19, 2018, 12:21 pm

-PJ- wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:55 am
Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:53 am
It's funny on so many levels when a team with one of the worst 3 rosters in the ERL are stung with a salary cap breach
And yet a club in Queensland carries on with the business of rorting at will !!!
nek minnut courier mail article with quotes from Andrew Gee saying how unacceptable this is from the Tigers
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by greeneyed » December 19, 2018, 12:30 pm

Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 12:21 pm
-PJ- wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:55 am
Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:53 am
It's funny on so many levels when a team with one of the worst 3 rosters in the ERL are stung with a salary cap breach
And yet a club in Queensland carries on with the business of rorting at will !!!
nek minnut courier mail article with quotes from Andrew Gee saying how unacceptable this is from the Tigers
That's got to be a meme! Make it happen!
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

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greeneyed wrote:
Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 12:21 pm
-PJ- wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:55 am
Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:53 am
It's funny on so many levels when a team with one of the worst 3 rosters in the ERL are stung with a salary cap breach
And yet a club in Queensland carries on with the business of rorting at will !!!
nek minnut courier mail article with quotes from Andrew Gee saying how unacceptable this is from the Tigers
That's got to be a meme! Make it happen!

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by greeneyed » December 19, 2018, 1:25 pm

CLUB STATEMENT: Wests Tigers will fight de-registration of CEO Justin Pascoe

At 8am this morning the NRL informed Wests Tigers that it is issuing a preliminary breach notice in relation to an ambassador agreement with Robbie Farah.

The club is shocked with the decision and extremely disappointed in the process.

It is an arrangement that Wests Tigers had with Robbie that is unrelated to his career as a player. The club does not know if he is going to take it up and Robbie has not indicated his intention in return.

The reason the ambassadorship was offered in November 2015 is that then new CEO Justin Pascoe felt that the club had disrespected Robbie and this was a way to show him the respect that Justin felt he deserved as a Life Member and club legend due to the overwhelming support Robbie had at the time from Members and fans.

Most importantly Wests Tigers derive absolutely no advantage from this arrangement. It is not tied in any way to Robbie's playing contract.

Wests Tigers are particularly concerned about the wrongful attack on the integrity of the club's CEO. For the last three years Justin has shown nothing but respect for the NRL and the salary cap.

The club will be vigorously defending this.

Wests Tigers media release

Tigers not disclosing Farah's post-career role gets CEO in trouble: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/12/19/wes ... n-trouble/

Wests Tigers CEO de-registered by NRL: https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/12/19/wes ... ed-by-nrl/
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by T_R » December 19, 2018, 1:40 pm

Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 1:21 pm
greeneyed wrote:
Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 12:21 pm
-PJ- wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:55 am
Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:53 am
It's funny on so many levels when a team with one of the worst 3 rosters in the ERL are stung with a salary cap breach
And yet a club in Queensland carries on with the business of rorting at will !!!
nek minnut courier mail article with quotes from Andrew Gee saying how unacceptable this is from the Tigers
That's got to be a meme! Make it happen!

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Oh, that is out of this world.
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by edwahu » December 19, 2018, 1:46 pm

-PJ- wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:55 am
Sid wrote:
December 19, 2018, 11:53 am
It's funny on so many levels when a team with one of the worst 3 rosters in the ERL are stung with a salary cap breach
And yet a club in Queensland carries on with the business of rorting at will !!!
Yeah it's a bit of a joke. Even the TPAs aside, you see it elsewhere.

- The "market rate" clause which was only every applied to Parra when they were about to sign Folau while Brisbane had Parker on 250k and Lockyer on 300k and signed Milford for half of our offer.

- Darius Boyd is promised a job post football in his last deal. This is spun as a positive in the press releases.

- Parker and Hodges get TV gigs post retirement at a company partially owned by the Broncos owner, despite having no natural presenting ability at all.

- Broncos former chairman admits at a Royal commission that players were given cash by the thoroughbreds

- Andrew Gee

- Greg Inglis rings up Gallop and threatens to quit the game if the NRL investigates his TPAs. The next day his contract is registered.

And I am sure there are more examples.

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by -PJ- » December 19, 2018, 1:51 pm

Yeah..cmon Todd get on a plane and head to Brisbane. It's only an hour.

You don't even need a passport...

Do a little digging, your head won't stop spinning I swear.

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by dubby » December 20, 2018, 7:17 am

All that is legit, Ed, if declared to the NRL. And, if Fox approach them to head up that stupid QLDers only show, good on them.


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Post by Northern Raider » December 20, 2018, 9:32 am

-PJ- wrote:
December 19, 2018, 1:51 pm
Yeah..cmon Todd get on a plane and head to Brisbane. It's only an hour.

You don't even need a passport...

Do a little digging, your head won't stop spinning I swear.

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by T_R » December 20, 2018, 7:28 pm

Northern Raider wrote:
-PJ- wrote:
December 19, 2018, 1:51 pm
Yeah..cmon Todd get on a plane and head to Brisbane. It's only an hour.

You don't even need a passport...

Do a little digging, your head won't stop spinning I swear.

There's gold in Red Hill Mr Greenburg...find it.
Waste of time. Broncos are masters of circumventing the cap. They are smarter and better prepared than those who would be investigating it.
And I think circumventing is the right word. I doubt they are doing too much too actually break the rules.
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by -PJ- » December 20, 2018, 7:38 pm

T_R wrote:
December 20, 2018, 7:28 pm
Northern Raider wrote:
-PJ- wrote:
December 19, 2018, 1:51 pm
Yeah..cmon Todd get on a plane and head to Brisbane. It's only an hour.

You don't even need a passport...

Do a little digging, your head won't stop spinning I swear.

There's gold in Red Hill Mr Greenburg...find it.
Waste of time. Broncos are masters of circumventing the cap. They are smarter and better prepared than those who would be investigating it.
And I think circumventing is the right word. I doubt they are doing too much too actually break the rules.
I'm not too concerned about the Tigers.

They cheated and finished 9th..
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by Raiders666 » December 21, 2018, 2:49 am

Always had a soft spot for the Tigers...The whole thing stinks to me

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

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Raiders666 wrote:
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Always had a soft spot for the Tigers...The whole thing stinks to me
What stinks? The Farah deal or the punishment?

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by Fuifui Bradbrad » December 25, 2018, 6:00 am

the bone wrote:
Raiders666 wrote:
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Always had a soft spot for the Tigers...The whole thing stinks to me
What stinks? The Farah deal or the punishment?
Think he means the soft spot

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by Raiders666 » January 7, 2019, 5:38 pm

I can't even remember now...I was blind drunk at the time 🤔

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by greeneyed » January 11, 2019, 10:47 am

Wests Tigers’ best 17 for 2019: Can Michael Maguire make a finals team out of this roster?

Fox Sports Wests Tigers’ best 17

1. Moses Mbye
2. Davis Nofoaluma
3. Esan Marsters
4. Mahe Fonua
5. Corey Thompson
6. Benji Marshall
7. Luke Brooks
8. Russell Packer
9. Robbie Farah
10. Ben Matulino
11. Chris Lawrence
12. Ryan Matterson
13. Elijah Taylor

14. Josh Reynolds
15. Matt Eisenhuth
16. Alex Twal
17. Josh Aloiai

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-pr ... nt=control
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by greeneyed » January 24, 2019, 12:59 pm

Wests Tigers have submitted an appeal to the NRL to have CEO Justin Pascoe reinstated

The Wests Tigers have submitted a response to the NRL in a bid to lessen the severity of punishment they face for alleged salary cap breaches. CEO Justin Pascoe was sensationally deregistered and the club was hit with a $750,000 fine and a salary cap reduction of $639,000 for 2019 when a post-career deal with club legend Robbie Farah was deemed to be illegal.

Read more: https://www.foxsports.com.au/news/the-w ... 400e518aca

https://www.nrl.com/news/2019/01/23/wes ... ch-notice/
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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by greeneyed » February 8, 2019, 11:44 am

Moses Mbye named Wests Tigers captain for 2019

Michael Maguire hasn’t wasted time shaking things up at the Wests Tigers, appointing fullback Moses Mbye as captain for 2019. Former coach Ivan Cleary appointed five captains to share the role last year – Chris Lawrence, Benji Marshall, Russell Packer, Elijah Taylor and Josh Reynolds.

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by gergreg » February 8, 2019, 12:06 pm

Strange decision IMO. New to the club while there is still a few 'Tigers legends' in the side. I think Brooks would have been a better choice looking to the future while still rewarding a local player. His game improved last year and the captaincy could have taken his game to another level. I like to think of it by where Brooks/Mybe will be at in 2 years. Brooks will still be guiding the Tigers around the park, whereas Mybe could be playing reserve grade.

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Re: Wests Tigers 2018

Post by zim » February 8, 2019, 12:58 pm

Mbye is also pretty quiet and reserved. If they see him as the long-term option they would have been better putting him as VC this year behind a strong captain and then handing him the reigns next year when Farah / Marshall / Lawrence move on.

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