2017 NRL Finals Wk 1: Teams and Game Day

[BJ]

Peachey's was a no try, looks like a knock on every day to me.

I thought so at first, but on another angle the ball looked to be clearly away from his hand when it passed.

[edwahu]

The only angle which looked like it could be a knock on is front on, which is the worst angle to judge. Side on left the bunker no choice but to award it.

[Botman]

I agree with the bunker call for a try
I don't think there was sufficient evidence to over turn that call.

How it went up as a try is beyond my understanding though.

Should have been sent up as no try

[Botman]

There was also insufficient evidence to overturn the Dylan Walker try IMO.

I don't agree there
I think that was clearly a no try.

[Woodgers]

It's a stupid rule that you can propel the ball forward in any manner rather than a kick and for it to not be a turnover.

The ruling was correct for mine and it isn't nice for Manly to go out that way but it is what it is. The ball comes off Peachey's chest and from there it either hits his arm or it doesn't and then is kneed forward. The ref who was closer than any other us called it a try. It is sent upstairs where 2 replays look like he touched hit with his bicep on the way down, and 2 look like it didn't touch any part of his arm before hitting the knee. So they can't overturn it because it is inconclusive and anyone saying otherwise has eagle eye vision or some money on Manly to win. We sometimes forget that the benefit of the doubt has always been with the attacking team, and in that case there is surely doubt. No one can hand on heart say they 100% think it hit his arm. It is what it is. If the Raiders went out like that i'd be furious but until they change the laws about balls propelled off bodies and heads, then it's correct.

[Woodgers]

I agree with the bunker call for a try
I don't think there was sufficient evidence to over turn that call.

How it went up as a try is beyond my understanding though.

Should have been sent up as no try

Yep you posted while I was writing mine and i'm about the same. I think it is hard though because the ref clearly thought it was a try so he has to send it up as such, but it was more risky to call try than no try with the game in the balance like that.

[gangrenous]

Benefit of the doubt isn't with the attacking team any longer Woodgers! BOD resides with the ref.

[Woodgers]

Is BOD not a thing though? I recall when the VR was about BOD and they took that away, but i'm saying in general Rugby League isn't that still the way they have to lean? It has to be one or the other.

In any case, the BOD resides with the ref then and he was closer than all of us to it.

[greeneyed]

Here are the final team line ups for the Sharks V Cowboys... kick off is at 4:10pm.

‌Sharks

1 Valentine Holmes
2 Sosaia Feki
3 Jack Bird
4 Ricky Leutele
5 Gerard Beale
6 James Maloney
7 Chad Townsend
8 Andrew Fifita
9 Jayden Brailey
10 Matt Prior
11 Luke Lewis
12 Wade Graham
13 Paul Gallen (c)

Interchange:
14 Jayson Bukuya
15 Chris Heighington
16 Jeremy Latimore
17 James Segeyaro

Cowboys
1 Lachlan Coote
2 Kyle Feldt
3 Javid Bowen
4 Kane Linnett
5 Antonio Winterstein
6 Te Maire Martin
7 Michael Morgan
17 Shaun Fensom
9 Jake Granville
10 Scott Bolton
11 Gavin Cooper (c)
12 Ethan Lowe
13 Jason Taumalolo

Interchange:
8 John Asiata
14 Ben Hampton
15 Coen Hess
16 Corey Jensen

In Holden Cup today, the Eels have stunned the NYC minor premiers, the Sharks: http://www.nrl.com/eels-stun-nyc-minor- ... fault.aspx

while the NYC Sea Eagles heve eliminated the wasteful Cowboys: http://www.nrl.com/nyc-sea-eagles-elimi ... fault.aspx

Holden Cup results:

Eels 35 (Dane Aukafolau 2, Greg Leleisiuao 2, Troy Dargan, Sean Keppie tries; Troy Dragan 5 goals; Dean Matterson field goal) def. Sharks 22 (Kyle Flanagan, Josh Tuilagi, Luke Metcalf, Will Kennedy tries; Kyle Flanagan 3 goals) at Allianz Stadium. Half-time: 16-12 Sharks

Sea Eagles 30 (Tevita Funa 2, Tom Wright, Haumole Olakau'atu, Bilal Maarbani, Blake Andrews tries; Tevita Funa 3 goals) def. Cowboys 16 (Jake Clifford, Murray Taulagi, Mitch Dunn tries; Jake Clifford 2 goals) at Allianz Stadium. Half-time: 12-6

[greeneyed]

Is BOD not a thing though? I recall when the VR was about BOD and they took that away, but i'm saying in general Rugby League isn't that still the way they have to lean? It has to be one or the other.

In any case, the BOD resides with the ref then and he was closer than all of us to it.

Nine showed two still shots just before... and claimed to show the shots at the same time stamp... one head on, the other side on. They show a gap on the head on when it looks like it hits his hand side on... and vice versa... and they're suggesting its optical illusion.

Frankly, I think they've stuffed up their time stamps... as you can see his finger deflecting. The referee made the wrong call IMO and the bunker technology has stuffed up.

[gangrenous]

GE, please don't be Raidersfan charging on the face of evidence.

[greeneyed]

It's the pinky finger deflection. It just doesn't deflect for no reason.

[greeneyed]

Teams about to run out. There are acres of empty seats, the cameras focus on the full seats. Where are all the Sharks fans who turned out for the grand final. It's an absolutely awful crowd on the western side.

Cowboys out first, there's Fenno. Now the drug cheat leads out the Sharks.

[greeneyed]

The Cowboys kick off to start the first half.

[edwahu]

WTH???!!!! That's the worst call nearly ever.

[greeneyed]

3rd min TRY SHARKS It's horrible for Winterstein... he is pushed back into the in goal and loses the ball. He's trying to place the ball in the field of play. The referee is saying try on field. The bunker is looking at this closely... looks like Chad Townsend grounds it after a complete shemozzle in goal. TRY to Townsend. Maloney converts. That is so lucky.

Sharks 6-0

[gangrenous]

How so?

[yeh raiders]

Surely the forearm of Winterstein grounded that at some point... do forearms not count ?

[reptar]

What's the chances my hotel in Seattle has this game on? I'm guessing none

[gangrenous]

Not that I saw. Not with any control or intent. Plus BOD with Sharks

[yeh raiders]

Intent doesn't matter there. And you don't need "control" if the ball is on the floor. All about downward pressure

[greeneyed]

What's the chances my hotel in Seattle has this game on? I'm guessing none

If they don't, given them a poor review on Trip Advisor.

[greeneyed]

Can someone please explain to me what is going on with Chad Townsend's hair?

[edwahu]

Intent doesn't matter there. And you don't need "control" if the ball is on the floor. All about downward pressure

Yep

[the bone]

What's the chances my hotel in Seattle has this game on? I'm guessing none

It would be on the fox soccer channel if anything

[reptar]

What's the chances my hotel in Seattle has this game on? I'm guessing none

If they don't, given them a poor review on Trip Advisor.

I couldn't even get Origin 2 in my Wellington hotel! I made my displeasure felt about that one, but apparently Sky Sports 2 isn't normally included in the hotel packages in NZ, and that's where the NRL is shown.

[Green eyed Mick]

Sharks getting away with murder in the rucks.

[the bone]

If you'd have asked me pre-game who I was going for, I'd have said I didn't care who wins, but since the game's started I've found myself going for the cowboys.

[greeneyed]

What's the chances my hotel in Seattle has this game on? I'm guessing none

If they don't, given them a poor review on Trip Advisor.

I couldn't even get Origin 2 in my Wellington hotel! I made my displeasure felt about that one, but apparently Sky Sports 2 isn't normally included in the hotel packages in NZ, and that's where the NRL is shown.

It has been in every hotel I've stayed in.

[Green eyed Mick]

This Ashley Klein epitomises the momentum ref. He's giving the Cows nothing at all this afternoon.

[reptar]

What's the chances my hotel in Seattle has this game on? I'm guessing none

It would be on the fox soccer channel if anything

52 channels but alas, fox soccer wasn't one of them

[the bone]

What's the chances my hotel in Seattle has this game on? I'm guessing none

It would be on the fox soccer channel if anything

52 channels but alas, fox soccer wasn't one of them

Spewing

[yeh raiders]

Javid Bowen ..

[greeneyed]

28th min Score update: Sharks 8-0

[the bone]

Cowboys are playing dreadfully