Rugby League 2017

[Rick]

I still don't get how losing someone to a head injury is different to losing someone to leg injury. And I just know certain teams would abide it.


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[Northern Raider]

I still don't get how losing someone to a head injury is different to losing someone to leg injury. And I just know certain teams would abide it.


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Difference is with head injuries there's an independent party determining whether a player can retake the field. They also ere on the side of caution to protect the players wellbeing. The 18th man suggestion is to compensate for these new regulations.

[Botman]

I still don't get how losing someone to a head injury is different to losing someone to leg injury. And I just know certain teams would abide it.


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No one is going to be launching a class action against the NRL due to negligence in duty of care around knee injuries

Mothers don't stop sons picking up a footy because of ACLs

The difference is obvious

[pickles]

2 weeks would be my minimum and it's all about medical reasons. Symptoms of a concussion can begin many days and yes weeks after the event.

But frankly I'm more than happy to let the neurologists dictate that policy. Hot tip though, they'll scoff at my 2 weeks and probably lean more towards around 52 weeks if not medical retirement

If the code is serious about head trauma and wish to avoid large scale class actions the way the NFL couldn't (and as McManus has shown, there is good chance that ship has already sailed), the nrl need to take this more seriously and ensuring players are protected from themselves and their self serving clubs

CTE is a serious thing and we are learning more and more about the cumulative effects of collision sport every day, in 30 years time they'll look back to these early days and ask why sports like the NRL didn't act more seriously when they had information about this. And that's where it's going to cost the code millions if not billions.

I'd be stunned if in 20 years time a confirmed severe concussion isn't deemed a career ending injury. We are already seeing a trend to this, where guys with 3-5 concussions are not being medically cleared or opting to walk away themselves.

If a player misses a Grand Final, so be it. It's no different to Campo blowing his knee out in week 2 of the finals

The sporting body has a moral obligation to its workforce to ensure they aren't dribbling into their bibs at age 50 due to CTE. And if they aren't interested in player welfare they should be obligated financially, participation rates due to worries mothers, court settlements threaten the future of the sport that lines their pockets, RL and all collision sports are in serious long term jeopardy due to head trauma and it needs to be taken seriously now

If you are rubbing people out based on medical reasons then I'm all for it but initially this was raised as a way to stop people gaming an additional interchange system. While I appreciate your concern for players welfare and the fiscal future of the NRL this is a pretty typical piggles straw man rant, in fact I think there's a tin man and Dorothy along for this walk down the yellow brick road as well!

[Rick]

So you are saying if you have 18th man joe average and Thurston cops a slight head knock in a semi they will with out hesitation bring him off now as they have a crap centre to bring on.... Right.

This if brought in will be milked by a few to have an extra rotation. There are already 4 extras on the bench and a free interchange for head knocks.

Just because there is some extra Neville on the bench mum and dad are not going to change there mind about little Johhny playing league.


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[Northern Raider]

So you are saying if you have 18th man joe average and Thurston cops a slight head knock in a semi they will with out hesitation bring him off now as they have a crap centre to bring on.... Right.

Who said that?

[Rick]

Pigman. Read above


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[-TW-]

You can't die from an ACL, you can from a head knock which isn't properly managed..

Dead set..

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[Northern Raider]

Pigman. Read above


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You want me to read one of pigman's posts? Thats just mean.

[Rick]

Yeah disregard


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[gangrenous]

I still don't get how losing someone to a head injury is different to losing someone to leg injury. And I just know certain teams would abide it.


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Because you don't think with your knee?...

Although it appears you have in this instance.

[the bone]

Here's why I don't agree with an 18th man (outside of a player being forced out of the game due to foul play)...
As I mentioned in an earlier post, coaches already have the capacity to cover every position with their four bench players. They can pick an outside back, a player to cover halves/hooker, a middle forward, and a wide forward. The idea that two props have to be chosen on the bench to cover the prop rotation is a fallacy. Coaches do not do this for player welfare, they choose two props for tactically reasons.

An 18th man would not make coaches/medical staff more likely to pull off a potentially concussed player. They already get free interchanges for head injuries, and the only reason they leave players out there at the moment is either because they don't realise they are concussed, or for tactical reasons (the player is important to their chances of winning).

I just think this is another example of the game giving coaches too much influence on the rules. And you just know that if we went to a five man bench, after a few years there would be calls for a 19th man, because the coaches are never satisfied.

[Rick]

I still don't get how losing someone to a head injury is different to losing someone to leg injury. And I just know certain teams would abide it.


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Because you don't think with your knee?...

Although it appears you have in this instance.

Some people must have taken too many hits and are misreading my post.

I get that head injuries are serious. I am not trying to compare them with other injuries.

What I am saying is what has been explained better in the post above.

Why should coaches get a 5th option to replace head injuries when there are already 4 options available. It's not going to make a difference.

Coaches will just abuse the use of an 18th man like they have done with every other rule.


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[greeneyed]

The NRL Nines tournament is heading to Perth next year

THE NRL Nines tournament is heading to Perth next year, the city that faces the loss of its Super Rugby franchise.

Governments around Australia are eager to take over the last year of the tournament and capture the economic boost of having so many players, fans and officials in their city at the same time.

Read more: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 1c685ce48b

[Hazza]

Gee Perth in February will be fun. Will be 8000 degrees

[Northern Raider]

Gee Perth in February will be fun. Will be 8000 degrees

Not wrong. you would think they'd program it as an evening/night event. Regularly in the high 30s that time of year.

[Botman]

I still don't get how losing someone to a head injury is different to losing someone to leg injury. And I just know certain teams would abide it.


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Because you don't think with your knee?...

Although it appears you have in this instance.

Some people must have taken too many hits and are misreading my post.

I get that head injuries are serious. I am not trying to compare them with other injuries.

What I am saying is what has been explained better in the post above.

Why should coaches get a 5th option to replace head injuries when there are already 4 options available. It's not going to make a difference.

Coaches will just abuse the use of an 18th man like

Because head injuries are more often than not the result of foul play by the opposition team.
And it will only be exploited if they use it as a half measure. If they just add an 18th man and call it a day it'll get exploited. If it's backed up by mandatory exclusion periods of anyone replaced from a game by 18th man, then there isn't a coach in the land dumb enough to accept losing a meaningful member of the team for 2+ weeks for the sake of a single interchange
Unless it's a GF, and we all know what ever the rule is won't be adhered to in the GF

[Rick]

A lot are from head clashes, a lot are on defenders etc to to say they are a result of foul play is a bit of a stretch. Coaches are already abusing the free interchange awarded to HIA's so it would be no different to 18th man.

We want to see the best players in the game, why force exclusion periods if they are unnecessary for the sake of harry the 18th best player....


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Ray Warren re signs for five more years

Nine Official Statement

Wide World of Sports today announced a new five-year agreement with the voice of rugby league, Ray “Rabs” Warren.

This will see Warren staying with the Nine Network until the end of the current rugby league rights deal in 2022.

Announcing the agreement, Nine’s Director of Sport, Tom Malone, said: “Ray Warren is an icon of sports broadcasting. He has brought us some of the greatest moments in sport for more than 50 years, and his contribution to the profile of rugby league and swimming in Australia cannot be overstated.”

Ray will provide his inimitable voice for promos and production, and contribute content across WWOS mobile platforms including columns and podcasts.

“While Rabs is yet to decide for how long he will continue to commentate, this new deal is recognition of his special place at Channel Nine and Wide World of Sports,” Malone said. “At a network that invented the star system Rabs is one of our greatest, and sits alongside people like Ken Sutcliffe and Richie Benaud as someone who is synonymous with WWOS and Nine.”

Warren said: “This is a wonderful opportunity for me remain a part of Nine even though I am undecided about the calling aspect. It was always my dream to work for Nine. I called greyhounds for them back in the 70s and then came the swimming for a decade or more, but it was rugby league where they gave me a second chance to cover the sport I love so much.

“I have been part of that coverage since 1989 and they have been good to me. For them to want me to remain a part of WWOS for another five years is very humbling.”

In typical understated Rabs style the new contract was sealed over a sausage sanga this week.

Nine Network media release

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[Phoenix_Raider]

April fools yeh?

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[rolhai]

April fools yeh?

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I wish!

[-TW-]

Least he didn't sign with fox

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[-PJ-]

By 2022 Rabs won't remember the clubs in the comp.

He already can't remember players names.

"That's a great try by Cronulla"

Ah Rabs that's StGeorge...

[BJ]

By 2022 Rabs won't remember the clubs in the comp.

He already can't remember players names.

"That's a great try by Cronulla"

Ah Rabs that's StGeorge...

He will continue to be amazed in 5 years that Jason Croker is still playing and Mitchell Chalk is showing potential.

[gangrenous]

From a news.com article:
“I certainly don’t want to be one of those people who go one season too many,” Warren told News Ltd last year. “I’d hate to think I could go too long and damage my reputation. No one is indispensable or irreplaceable.”

No chance of that...

[-GD-]

Rabs for another five years, **** hell.

[-PJ-]

Yeah Rabs don't go hanging around a year too long and damage your reputation.....

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

[cat]

This is actually really sad, someone is taking advantage of a really old man.

I'm sure he was once a great commentator (just cant recall when) and now is a laugh among the NRL and the fans. Channel 9 are telling him how great he is and signing him on for peanuts compared to the others because he is cheap and funny

I actually feel sorry for him

[PrimetimeRaider]

I thought he retired last season

[-TW-]

There was a rumour going around he was going to after the gf

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[dubby]

Thank God I have fox

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[dubby]

Uiti Baker , former raider u20

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[FuiFui BradBrad]

Uiti Baker , former raider u20

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Correct, he was

[-PJ-]

Uiti Baker , former raider u20

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He now plays for the Maggots in Newy comp.

[dubby]

Maggots?

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